Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Telly addicts

Downton Abbey

999 replies

harrietthespook · 11/10/2011 22:20

Ladies....as we were?

OP posts:
ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs · 24/10/2011 16:44

Crikey, just caught up with both the episode and this chat.
DD who is 10.5 asked about goaty Matt's elimination. I explained that they weren't showing him constantly urninating and shit oozing out of the waistband of his trousers.
I am getting increasingly pissed off with this programme. The only one I like at all is Daisy and Mrs manipulator Patmore.

anonacfr · 24/10/2011 16:51

Grin Georgimama.

The 'heir' storyline was so dull. For a start why was the family discussing the issue in front of Sir R, tabloid owner? And didn't he effectively admit to Edith that he was Peter?

But back to more pressing matters.

BATES KILLED HIS WIFE!

MATTHEW'S WILLY MOVED!

schroeder · 24/10/2011 17:05

Sybill and Branson sitting in a tree [hgrin]

limitedperiodonly · 24/10/2011 17:07

"DD who is 10.5 asked about goaty Matt's elimination. I explained that they weren't showing him constantly urninating and shit oozing out of the waistband of his trousers."

You're one of those modern mothers who talks about penises and vulvas and tells your children that Santa doesn't exist, aren't you?

LIZS · 24/10/2011 17:19

lol, ds (13) asked the same about Matthew's toileting - can't imagine that would have endeared him to Lady M or Lavinia ! Would Isobel really have gone off so merrily leaving her pfb in such a precarious position re the inheritance and disabled ? At some point he should be heading home.

Bossybritches22 · 24/10/2011 17:20

Actually he's more likely not to be doubly incontinent but need -ahem- assistance with bodily functions, but TMI at tea-time maybe???

Grin
diddl · 24/10/2011 17:29

"i know what you mean about her clinging to Matthew like a lap dog but seriously?"

I didn´t say it was justified!

And I think he´s already shown his character-so you´d think she would be more on her guard.

diddl · 24/10/2011 18:00

Anyone any idea what Matthew meeant when he said (to Mary) something like-if you weren´t engaged I wouldn´t let you near me?

SoupDragon · 24/10/2011 18:06

Either

  1. he wouldn't want anyone who was still single becoming emotionally attached to him.
  2. he wouldn't want to encourage Mary to become emotionally attached
  3. his Willy can barely contain itself and only the fact that she is promised to someone else has prevented it from standing proud and leaping forth.
FlamingoBingo · 24/10/2011 18:06

diddl - did he mean that he would assume she wanted to marry him so would keep her at arms length so there was no way she could think he was also keen?

FlamingoBingo · 24/10/2011 18:07

I don't understand the whole scandal thing. If that random Mrs Bates knew, then surely a gazillion people must also know, so why on earth has no one else leaked it to the papers? Confused

LeBOOOf · 24/10/2011 18:12

He meant that if he thought she was likely to fall in love with him again, he would have nothing to do with her because he'd hate her to be shackled to him, sexless forever.

LeBOOOf · 24/10/2011 18:14

The scandal is very old news, surely? I can't see anybody really giving a shit for long if it came out. And the thing about ruining the girl's marriage prospects is a moot point now, considering they're pretty much on the shelf now for the standards of the time.

FroOOOOOtshoOOOOOOts · 24/10/2011 18:18

Mary's Turkish guy isn't dead. Mary is going to wake up the next morning and he will be in the shower and it will be 1985.

diddl · 24/10/2011 18:19

Yes I thought that, that he was concerned that she would fall in love with him.

But that seemed a bit arrogant somehow.

And yes, the scandal.

She was "shunned" by "society" in London-all(?) the servants know, her mother & GM know.

Why would Sir R have to kill Mrs B when any number of people could go to the papersConfused
(OK, most of the people I mentioned aren´t likely toGrin)

I wondered if she had taken some arsenic so that she could accuse Bates of trying to poison her but took too much.

limitedperiodonly · 24/10/2011 18:20

Maybe the papers of the time wouldn't be interested in printing it.

The Russian Royal family had just been murdered and there fears of revolution in Britain so I can see newspapers suppressing anything that would bring down part of the British aristocracy - especially since the source was an Irish servant.

What could any newspaper safely say anyway? He died of natural causes and was found in his own room.

What I find odd is that Sir R does his own dirty work. Didn't they suggest that he'd personally negotiated and paid off Mrs Bates only to suppress the story? Or am I imagining that?

Far more likely would be him instructing his henchmen in the newsroom to ignore her and then persuading the fellow press barons at his club to do the same. I don't imagine it would take much arm-twisting.

Mary would still have been ruined though. Mrs Bates would only have to tell a few staff at selected grand houses and stand back. But that's how she got the story in the first place.

Very unconvincing, JF.

diddl · 24/10/2011 18:25

Yes, obviously those who matter already know.

I should imagine it´s for his own benefit now that he doesn´t want the story to get out.

Bossybritches22 · 24/10/2011 18:28

Someone earlier in the last thread said,if I remember rightly that the papers of the time where all run by nobs anyway (apart from one Sir R-type character Beaverbrook?? ) so they would close ranks & not descend to tittle-tattle.

"Going to the papers" is a modern thing surely? Mind you there was the headless man scandal wasn't there?

limitedperiodonly · 24/10/2011 18:28

Also, why hasn't the noble Bates told Lord 6 that Mrs Bates has taken every penny he has in return for keeping quiet about bloody Mary?

Even if he's too doggily noble to do that why wouldn't Anna tell Mary? They are on good terms.

jennypenney · 24/10/2011 18:31

cos the noble Lord G hasn't got a clue what his eldest daughter has been up to and if he did there would be Scenes and Recriminations and Tears.

(just found this thread, hurrah!)

jennypenney · 24/10/2011 18:32

And Anna would simply say "It's not my place", because she is the Perfect Housemaid

Bossybritches22 · 24/10/2011 18:32

Limited Lord G is the only soul in christendom person at Downton who hasn't a clue what went on. Most of the staff know something if not all the details or have made up the rest!

LadyMaryCrawley · 24/10/2011 18:39

Please don't tell Papa, will you?

limitedperiodonly · 24/10/2011 18:40

The headless man scandal was in 1963, which, as we all know, was roughly when sexual intercourse began.

The Duke of Argyll used his divorce hearing to name about 100 men who'd supposedly shagged his wife, including a man whose head had been teasingly cropped from a shot of the Duchess fellating him wearing just a pearl choker. He could have been Douglas Fairbanks Jnr, though to be fair, it was a crowded field.

There was apparently a pleasure boat named after her and wags used to be photographed next to the sign saying: 'Queue here for the Duchess of Argyll.'

I so want that to be true.

Bossybritches22 · 24/10/2011 18:55

oops you can tell history was not my subject!

As late as that ...blimey then maybe the "scandal" of Mary & Pamuk is as big as its made out if that's the case!

Swipe left for the next trending thread