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TheOriginalFAB · 04/06/2011 11:15

This Thursday at 9pm on channel four.

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Catmilk · 06/06/2011 23:00

Oh, the one after that... sorry I don't agree with that sentiment.

Again, I was accused of calling SN kids 'freaks' here over three pages., and five more on a separate thread.
I proved they had misunderstood, and that that had never happened. The correct response at that point should have been 'Ah, I see. I misunderstood, I apologise.

That happened twice I think. The correct response from anyone else should have been to weigh up who owed who an apology, see that I had apologized for causing unintentional offence, and decide that the onus was certainly on all those who threw abuse at me because they failed to comprehend an obvious statement to issue their apologies.

That hasn't happened yet.

springbokscantjump · 06/06/2011 23:05

Oh for goodness sake. Surely the fact in total eight pages of people felt that you misrepresented your actual opinion would give you some sort of clue that perhaps your original posting wasn't the masterpiece you evidently think it was? But apparently everyone else is wrong and you are right. So there. Dear god my eight year old niece has more insight than you.

AitchTwoOh · 06/06/2011 23:08

darling girl... because you called a very tasteful, non-exploitative programme that most parents of SN children (not least the ones featured) agree is a fair representation of their kids and their lives a 'freakshow', it is not in fact at all unreasonable of those parents to infer from that that you were calling their kids 'freaks'.

you hit the wrong target, not them. they weren't to know that you were mouthing off about a programme that you had never seen. why would someone do that after all? it's quite baffling.

Pagwatch · 06/06/2011 23:08
Grin
Catmilk · 06/06/2011 23:24

" darling girl... because you called a very tasteful, non-exploitative programme that most parents of SN children (not least the ones featured) agree is a fair representation of their kids and their lives a 'freakshow', it is not in fact at all unreasonable of those parents to infer from that that you were calling their kids 'freaks'. "

Darling, because after so much discussion it has still not sunk into your sweet head that I never called the show a freakshow it is not unreasonable to assume that the people here cannot get that simple fact in their heads, do not want to, and thus never will. I shudder to think that this group ever thinks it has the collective wisdom to dictate political policy, let alone Eastenders storylines.

Pagwatch · 06/06/2011 23:29

Seriously " I fucked up and picked on ten wrong programme"would be fine.

You are starting to remind me of Michael Barrymore

AitchTwoOh · 06/06/2011 23:34

i'm not sure that this is all of your deleted post, funnily enough, but this is what you yourself have replicated.

"They should just call the show "Roll Up & See The F! (But Pretend It's About How Brave & Noble They Are)"

this, on the basis of knowing absolutely fuck-all about the programme. it is a total embarrassment, isn't it? i am CRINGING for you.

Catmilk · 06/06/2011 23:37

Seriously " I fucked up and picked on ten wrong programme"would be fine.

I've said that about three times. See what difference its made?

AitchTwoOh · 06/06/2011 23:41

can you point out where?

Pagwatch · 06/06/2011 23:43

Yes. Where ?

Where did you say that?

Because I would love you by now. I love gracious types who fess up to the occasional fuck up.

I have seen no " oh dear, I fucked up a bit' posting.

Catmilk · 06/06/2011 23:44

Aitch, that line is obviously not calling kids freaks is it? Whether I misjudged the show or not. So why don't all the people who misunderstood and said I was some cow calling disabled kids freaks have to account for themselves? WHY NOT? Because my poor wording wasn't clear enough for them? IT IS. And a few hours later I made another post dispelling any doubts about what I meant, and made the first of several apologies. STILL I AM TOLD I CALLED KIDS FREAKS. STILL I AM TOLD I HAVEN'T APOLOGIZED. IF I MENTION THIS, AS I AM DOING NOW, I AM STILL SOMEHOW AT FAULT.

THIS IS A FARCE!

AitchTwoOh · 06/06/2011 23:45

me too pag, nothing more disarming than the 'oh shit i have made a right arse of this' poster. i will thereafter defend them to the hilt.

d0gFace · 06/06/2011 23:47

My god is this still going.Confused

lets hug it out!

Pagwatch · 06/06/2011 23:50

It's because we are all thick I expect.

I love fuck up posters. I have been fuck up poster myself.

There is something charming and smart about the ability to see how you have posted objectively rather than foot stamping, myopic petulance.

Pagwatch · 06/06/2011 23:51

Lovely fucker.....

d0gFace · 06/06/2011 23:52

stop touching me!

Diziet · 06/06/2011 23:55

My youngest DS has SN.
I've never seen BTBD. Don't do telly much.
DH and I aren't 'brave & noble'. We were just thrown in at the deep end like any other parents.

AitchTwoOh · 06/06/2011 23:55

it is perfectly reasonable to infer from that line that you are calling the children freaks, i think. it's not what i took you to mean, but you were so wide off the mark with your target that i think that parents who recognised themselves and their lives in the show are not being daft in interpreting it that way.

your subsequent posts, throughout which you have maintained that you were right and that your initial post was 'witty, succinct' etcl, insulted people's intelligence and claimed to be a victim have done nothing that, were i someone who had taken offence, would have calmed me down.

Pagwatch · 06/06/2011 23:56

Sorry dogface.

d0gFace · 06/06/2011 23:58

:)

Catmilk · 07/06/2011 00:00

Where did I apologise? This is a long thread but there's a couple of admissions herein that 'It seems BTBD is not the typical show of the genre I am attacking' or similar. Sorry I do not write sentences like 'I fucked up and got the wrong show, I'm a twat, soz' so that will have to do.

and from the thread about this thread, yesterday -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1230347-Cant-believe-that-people-on-this-site-can-call-children-with-special-needs-freaks?pg=4&x=0&y=0

"I'm happy for the original thread to revert back to discussion of the actual show, and this thread either die, or if anything good could come out of it, a discussion about which of these shows are exploitative and distasteful and which are not - and common consensus seems to be this one's ok, and probably a poor choice to be targeted by me on this issue."

Pagwatch · 07/06/2011 00:06

Ooooh so close.
You know you want to.

Look dogface is enjoying all thetouching love and she didn't even call it a freakshow.

AitchTwoOh · 07/06/2011 00:12

that's not an apology, that's an admission. and really that's about it, that and the mealy-mouthed bullshit apol of 'i have apologised for unintentional offence'. a child gets away with saying 'but i didn't mean it', adults really should imo suck it up and move it along.

haven't read any other threads on this, btw. must go, was supposed to be off this ages ago. for the record, though, i think you just got the wrong show. there is plenty of the programming, in fact yes i will call it 'freak show' programming of which you speak on television. but next time make sure you have watched the show you are slagging off, in order to check that it fits the brief. that's tv criticism 101 i'm afraid.

Catmilk · 07/06/2011 00:19

Pag, that's not good enough? That and an apology for unintentionally offending anyone, and surely no one now still claiming I was calling sn kids freaks... yet it's still me on the defensive? Still me that hasn't gone far enough to make peace?

Read the first three pages and see what people say about me - all mistaken, none facing any pressure to make nice. To quote Her Majesty The Queen - Screw that for a game of soldiers....

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 07/06/2011 00:24

Life's a bitch....