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Strangeways

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 09/05/2011 21:08

Fascinating

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Hulababy · 16/05/2011 21:28

Seeing the seg and health care sections is really talking me back to my old jpb. I did 1:1s in both areas at the prison I was at- very different to being on the normal wings.

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 16/05/2011 21:31

How did you do that every day? Poor David Charlton. The fact he has a Sunderland accent is making me feel sad for him. Homeless and desperate to be in prison.

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Hulababy · 16/05/2011 21:50

Sadly he is not the only person who feels like that. Life inside is better than life outside for some :(

My role was very different. Most of the men saw me as neing non threatening, on their side.. Obviously sometimes they took against you, but it was unusual. I saw both sides but was still quite protected. I did 1:1s but always had an alarm on me and I knew their were officers on the corridors not too far away.

tiredemma · 16/05/2011 21:51

yes watching with great interest tonight. I work in a Forensic medium secure hospital and assess many with MH problems in prison. Sadly, we dont have enough beds for everyone.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 16/05/2011 21:53

Vass makes me shudder. A very scary man.

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 16/05/2011 21:58

Vass is terrifying.

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stressheaderic · 16/05/2011 21:59

Gripping viewing this week. Such an eye-opening programme.

What should be done with David Charlton? So many unanswered questions there.
Vass was the one that got me too. So articulate, confident, 'normal'?

Hulababy · 16/05/2011 21:59

Vass could go either way I think.

ceebeegeebies · 16/05/2011 22:00

Chickens I agree although I do know him in RL and had several dealings with him Sad - sends shivers down my spine watching him now!

tiredemma · 16/05/2011 22:00

vass- psychopath.

Hulababy · 16/05/2011 22:01

What do you do with people like David Charloton? Prison isn't the place for him. But he is not ill either, so neither is hospital. How do you help a man like that to kepp him safe ont he outside, and to stop him committing crimes to get inside. It;s not even as if he is having a great time inside either.

ceebeegeebies · 16/05/2011 22:03

Yes Vass is articulate, confident and, I believe, a very good actor.....would it surprise you all to know that he worked for the ambulance service prior to his arrest?

slartybartfast · 16/05/2011 22:06

do they prefer to be considered Mad rather than Bad?

and doncha think to commit such crimes they would haVE to be bad.

how do psychiatrists tell the difference?

isnt a psychopath mad?

ByThePowerOfGreyskull · 16/05/2011 22:26

Hula, DH and I have sat discussing that for the last half hour.
He isn't well, he definately needs some social support but I don't know how society can afford to intensively support someone who is just not willing to walk/wash/go to the loo.
I swung between feeling really sorry for him and bloody cross with him!

And I am a terrible judge of character I thought that French guy was an ok bloke - that is until he started attacking and biting the staff!!
Shows what I know!

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 16/05/2011 22:38

That does surprise me ceebee. His total lack of regret at killing his girlfriend was chilling. He seems to see himself as the victim. Personally, I'm extremely glad he'll spend the rest of his life in prison.

FunnysInTheGarden · 16/05/2011 22:38

I watched this and was very interested. It seems to me that the men who haven't got an identifiable mental illness are behaving just like toddlers. It does make me wonder how they were treated as children. It's almost as though their development stopped about age 3. I don't know how childhood trauma manifests itself, but some of these people were just like very young children.

AnyFucker · 16/05/2011 22:43

I feel sorry for the family of the woman he (Vass) killed, knowing her killer is now taking a starring role on tv

he says he feels "a bit down today"

err...

fucking sick

FunnysInTheGarden · 16/05/2011 22:45

Vass was frightening. Not least because was he not in Strangeways he would appear to be a very nice and reasonable human being.......

ceebeegeebies · 17/05/2011 07:03

Funnys yes, he does a very good job of seeming to be a nice, reasonable human being - very mild-mannered and quiet in RL Shock From all accounts, he was also a bit of a sleazebag ladies man - not going to get much opportunity to make use of that skill over the next 30+ years is he?

AnyFucker · 17/05/2011 08:12

ceebee...you would be surprised

I bet he has plenty of (sick) penpals/lady friends

MorrisZapp · 17/05/2011 11:43

AF, that was my though exactly. Vass will slmost certainly get attention from pen friend types on the outside.

I almost felt warm at times towards David Charlton. The bit where the posh prison director tried to talk to him then turned away saying 'he's making rude hand gestures' was hilarious. You almost admire his point blank refusal to make any concession to others whatsoever.

'Good morning David'

'Fuck off'

stressheaderic · 17/05/2011 16:35

The chief Governor seemed quite a world away from the grass roots staff, didnt he? I bet he's not liked much. He certainly didn't look like he'd worked his way to the top via hard graft.

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 17/05/2011 18:16

One of my colleagues went to school with David Charlton. Said he was the loner, picked on, smelly child. Sad how he has ended up.

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ceebeegeebies · 17/05/2011 19:59

Kendodds that is so Sad I did actually feel sorry for him last night as how bad must your life be that being in prison in preferable?

As for Vass, it is his children I feel really sorry for - the one he had with the woman he murdered has effectively been left an orphan and the other 2 will grow up with the knowledge that their dad is a murderer Sad

Hulababy · 23/05/2011 21:08

Back on again tonight.

And David Charlton is back in Strangeways once more.