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Teen son suddenly self harming and fixated on girlfriend, any advice? ***TW: self harm and suicide ideation***

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WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 04:54

Sorry, a long one, but I am desperate and want to give as much info in the first post.

DS is 12 but almost 13 and deeply into physical puberty. I need advice, support, encouragement from others who have gone before because we are losing our minds with his sudden change of behaviour.

Three months ago DS was he usual happy delightful self. Struggled to focus at school but happy, jokey…really a brilliant kid. He had some bullying at school but was still his usually self. Then came a girlfriend and everything changed. She is full of angst - like a cloud moves over her head when she walks. Permanently online. Not very involved parents and we’re living in a country that doesn’t really believe in mental health.

We found messages from her that she was SHing and expressing suicide ideation. Within weeks, our happy go lucky son started to act/express the same thoughts. He doesn’t focus at all in class. Is defiant at home.

He has quite an obsessive personality but previously this has been channeled to normal kid interests - now it’s channeled at her. She was (the school tell me, we only joined recently) queen bee last year. After a failing out with all her friends she’s now a loner. Enter my DS. The school has described him as ‘collateral damage’ to her falling out with friends.

We still have large stretches of time where he’s more his old self - loving, funny, silly. he is still doing his extracurricular - football, track. But we can see from messages he sends that he’s talking about how he’s changed, no longer the same. The latest is telling her he doesn’t eat (he does, he had two dinners last night). This is all stuff she was telling him a few weeks ago. It’s like he learns behaviour and adopts it.

We have introduced restrictions on his computer to limit their messaging but now they use email and hard to stop that as he needs it for school.

We have limited resources for support where we are but have had a psychiatric evaluation and the conclusion is anxiety and non-suicidal self harm. He has cut himself and yesterday used an eraser to make the most dreadful red marks all over his arm. He will not engage in discussion about this. We try to remain calm, non judgmental, reassure him everything will be ok. He says we give him the hardest life - he has a really wonderful privileged life (with some notable challenge in that we have to move around for work but he’s always been very resilient and this hasn’t seemed to bother him much - and we don’t move too often - we try for 4 years per country. I know people might jump on this information (perhaps rightly) but just to say (1) this is his norm; (2) it’s norm for many of the kids he’s around; (3) our work is very hard to do from the UK). Moving school could be an option but it’s isn’t a good one - the other school here doesn’t have a good reputation). We’re a two parent loving, calm home. Financially we are not rich but stable and provide him with a lot (not spoiled but not wanting for anything).

We now finally have the first psychotherapy tonight (online - it’s the only option). I have shared a ton of information with the therapist who works with moving families like ours.

i don’t really know what I am asking but has anyone been through this and come out - with the SH particularly. But also with the total lack of focus at school. The school allow them to listen to music while working and this is such a distraction but when we blocked Spotify he lost it. We are trying to focus on stabilising his mental health and letting the school work slide for the moment.

Any words of wisdom? Do we show our concern or do we just keep calm? It’s so hard. I want the scream and throw things. But I don’t. I hate his behaviour right now, absolutely hate it. We both have super stressful jobs and while we don’t bring them home, this is impacting every element of our lives.

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WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 09:14

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 22/05/2026 09:01

Agree- do you and dh have leave over summer? Can you do regular fun stuff with him? Even maybe if he has a "fun" uncle or aunt or involved gps could they come for a holiday and do lots of stuff with him? Whatever, outside, off tech, away from her.
And dont quit your job, you could end up jobless, back here, without a house and then having to negotiate the school system which often isnt great for pastoral care.
Good luck op.

Yes, I will have one month off work over summer. We have a fabulous family holiday planned and he will spend time with his beloved and very fun grandparents and uncles.

What is so confusing is that in amongst the moments of serious angst and SH - he is bloody happy!!! He likes hanging out with us, watching movies, going to football practice, being on the track team, playing PS with his mates from our previous posting, climbing, listening to music, hanging with our lovely dog, eating ice cream, weekends away!!!

All this makes me think it is performative for the girlfriend.

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Anonanonanonagain · 22/05/2026 09:26

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 08:20

No, we all did it at school (emo days). Teens are very dramatic, thankfully it’s very rare for one to actually end their lives. It’s a good way of guilting parents though.

NO we did not all do this. Christ almighty this is very very serious and needs to be taken as such.

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 09:27

Anonanonanonagain · 22/05/2026 09:26

NO we did not all do this. Christ almighty this is very very serious and needs to be taken as such.

🙄

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 09:28

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 09:14

Yes, I will have one month off work over summer. We have a fabulous family holiday planned and he will spend time with his beloved and very fun grandparents and uncles.

What is so confusing is that in amongst the moments of serious angst and SH - he is bloody happy!!! He likes hanging out with us, watching movies, going to football practice, being on the track team, playing PS with his mates from our previous posting, climbing, listening to music, hanging with our lovely dog, eating ice cream, weekends away!!!

All this makes me think it is performative for the girlfriend.

Of course he’s happy, this is all a front. It’s now up to you to treat that front with the contempt it deserves. Don’t feed it.

turkeyboots · 22/05/2026 09:34

Is he in a US style Middle school or Junior High? I find they are odd places which ramp up the drama and anxiety for some kids. And are the other parents American? Cultural differences in parenting teenagers are very real.
Can you help DS build relationships with other kids at school? Give him a way to "help" the girlfriend if he's worried, getting you to text a teacher or her parents. He needs to learn he isn't responsible for her, and thats a hard lesson for anyone.

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 09:43

turkeyboots · 22/05/2026 09:34

Is he in a US style Middle school or Junior High? I find they are odd places which ramp up the drama and anxiety for some kids. And are the other parents American? Cultural differences in parenting teenagers are very real.
Can you help DS build relationships with other kids at school? Give him a way to "help" the girlfriend if he's worried, getting you to text a teacher or her parents. He needs to learn he isn't responsible for her, and thats a hard lesson for anyone.

It is middle school.

The parents are from the country we live in.

We are trying with the other kids - including outside school as there are only 9 in his class (which is the norm here as it’s a very small country and community).

ETA: when this first all started he expressed that he needed to help her, her parents weren’t helping. He saw himself as some kind of saviour. I assured him that adults would soon be involved - and the school did get involved by speaking to the parents and he knows that. Now it seems that she’s more stable (based off the emails they share) and he’s the one being dramatic and manipulative.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 22/05/2026 09:53

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 09:06

Eating disorders are completely different.

20 years ago teenagers going through a ‘depressed, deep, alternative’ phase was so normal it was almost expected. It’s only now it’s being treated as a mental health issue that needs therapy and medication. Out of the dozens of kids I knew like this growing up, all have grown out of it and now have sensible boring lives.

Out of all the teens on here in more recent years who have been mithered by their parents and shipped off to therapy and for diagnoses, none seem to ever make a meaningful recovery. Their life becomes being pandered to, overthinking everything, blaming their diagnosis and growing into the person ‘who is mentally unwell and can’t be expected to do anything’.

We urgently need to go back to ignoring these phases, while still providing a happy and safe home, rather than entrenching the identity crisis by treating it as a mental health issue. Look at ‘trans’ and where we ended up with that.

I went through the goth stage at 15, because I was clinically depressed. My parents most definitely ignored what was going on for me. So it’s not like that for all kids. I only recognised what was going on at 21 and got myself help.

I don’t think we should ignore every kid. And I’m not suggesting op’s ds is clinically depressed either. However that he’s copying his gf at his age is concerning. And I don’t think it should be ignored. Nor that it necessarily needs to be pathologised either.

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 10:04

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/05/2026 09:53

I went through the goth stage at 15, because I was clinically depressed. My parents most definitely ignored what was going on for me. So it’s not like that for all kids. I only recognised what was going on at 21 and got myself help.

I don’t think we should ignore every kid. And I’m not suggesting op’s ds is clinically depressed either. However that he’s copying his gf at his age is concerning. And I don’t think it should be ignored. Nor that it necessarily needs to be pathologised either.

How are you doing now?

Shrinkhole · 22/05/2026 10:10

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 09:43

It is middle school.

The parents are from the country we live in.

We are trying with the other kids - including outside school as there are only 9 in his class (which is the norm here as it’s a very small country and community).

ETA: when this first all started he expressed that he needed to help her, her parents weren’t helping. He saw himself as some kind of saviour. I assured him that adults would soon be involved - and the school did get involved by speaking to the parents and he knows that. Now it seems that she’s more stable (based off the emails they share) and he’s the one being dramatic and manipulative.

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He saw that it worked for her? Or the dynamic of their relationship is that there needs to be drama (or he thinks there does) so now he’s providing it?

self harm in teens as an expression of distress is very common and most of it is not linked to a risk of suicide if that is your worry.

The therapy is a good idea. Puberty is a rough time and I guess the moving around and possible feeling disconnected from having a home is hard in teen years where you are looking to form an identity (look up third culture kids) He is struggling a bit and this is how he’s expressing it but you just need to stay loving and consistent and don’t over react.

Shrinkhole · 22/05/2026 10:17

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 09:14

Yes, I will have one month off work over summer. We have a fabulous family holiday planned and he will spend time with his beloved and very fun grandparents and uncles.

What is so confusing is that in amongst the moments of serious angst and SH - he is bloody happy!!! He likes hanging out with us, watching movies, going to football practice, being on the track team, playing PS with his mates from our previous posting, climbing, listening to music, hanging with our lovely dog, eating ice cream, weekends away!!!

All this makes me think it is performative for the girlfriend.

In which case try to ignore and not over react to the drama, keep on providing healthy opportunities as you are doing and limit contact with her whilst not banning her so that you become the bad guy. Just be busy as a family elsewhere so you naturally limit contact and it may fade out or he’ll meet someone more conducive. Girls and the prospect of sex are powerful for a pubescent boy. He is too young to handle this drama and at this age you do still have a role in protecting him more than if he was 17 or 18 but you are best to do it gently or you’ll make her more attractive and increase their feeling of outsider and grievance if you try to ban her. Just try to be a bit bored of it all.

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/05/2026 10:50

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 10:04

How are you doing now?

Are you genuinely asking? Or is it to counter my arguments? Because my MH is obviously affected by what else is going on in my life. And not really appropriate to discuss on this thread.

Bikenutz · 22/05/2026 11:04

It sounds as though you are taking a well considered route forward that takes your son’s welfare and the realities for the rest of the family into account. I had a tricky situation with my teen daughter for a while - not strictly comparable, but we got over it and she’s now thriving. Your son and family will do the same.

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 11:39

Thank you everyone, this is encouraging.

To a PP - yes, I do think the TCK element is at play. Wanting to find an identity. He is also a dual national and not connected at all to his second passport (it’s complicated). So this need for an identity might be strong. Also because of the nature of our work and the countries we have lived, he’s surrounded by others with a by a strong sense of national and religious identity. This is perhaps partly him trying to find his own identity.

My plan of action (it helps to write it down):

  • engage in therapy but don’t over dramatise
  • take SH seriously (see therapist) but don’t feed the drama with constant discussion about it
  • ignore chat about the sodding girlfriend (which I do anyway)
  • keep him busy with other activities
  • severely limit tech and contact with the girl
  • the two weeks he was going to stay here at the start of summer will likely change and my DH will take him to the UK to his grandparents who are loving but no nonsense types where his day will be filled with enormous bike rides with his grandfather
  • calm the fuck down

I welcome any positive stories and advice from those who have been through similar!

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FernFaery · 22/05/2026 11:48

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/05/2026 10:50

Are you genuinely asking? Or is it to counter my arguments? Because my MH is obviously affected by what else is going on in my life. And not really appropriate to discuss on this thread.

Seemed relevant given we were discussing long term outcomes of this.

WarmthAndDepth · 22/05/2026 12:20

@XelaM I work in education in a large UK city, and as @FernFaery says, teenage SH is more common than one might think. While adolescent MH is recognised to be a problem in general, there is definitely an element of social contagion when it comes to SH in some teens, as seen in relation to other MH issues in this cohort. This does not mean it can be taken more lightly, in fact, in my experience, where there is a social element influencing SH, it can almost be harder to unpick as the young people involved often monitor and police each other and may, to an extent, even encourage each other, to go further or at least discourage a friend from engaging with a family's effort to intervene. It's really tricky.

Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:00

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 08:50

I am hearing the message from everyone about the comms with the girlfriend. It is hard to end completely but we can severely restrict. He doesn’t have a smartphone. Tech is basically off by 9pm. We have a no tech in the bedroom rule.

He says he ‘overthinks’ and I see this causes him to spiral (worrying about her). So when we do limit apps or screen time he loses it. We can and have done it anyway. We just didn’t want him losing it to the extent he becomes even more of a danger to himself.

He has a first CBT session tonight and two more next week. I will seek advice on this from the (new) psychotherapist.

why would it be “hard” to stop a 12 year old virtually communicating with another child?

Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:04

Anonanonanonagain · 22/05/2026 09:26

NO we did not all do this. Christ almighty this is very very serious and needs to be taken as such.

Nor did I. And I have just asked my GSCE revising boy whether SH is endemic amongst his friends and he genuinely looked at me with a WTF are you talking expression on his face in response .

Some teens will for sure. Common? Many? No

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 13:12

Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:00

why would it be “hard” to stop a 12 year old virtually communicating with another child?

Because he uses a computer for school. We have locked down pretty much every messaging app on the computer but he needs Outlook emails for school work. We can limit the time he uses it but he does still need some access to it for school work.

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WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 13:18

Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:04

Nor did I. And I have just asked my GSCE revising boy whether SH is endemic amongst his friends and he genuinely looked at me with a WTF are you talking expression on his face in response .

Some teens will for sure. Common? Many? No

From a study published in 2024 (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2820027):

‘Findings summarize a pooled NSSI prevalence of 17.7% (21.4% among female adolescents and 13.7% among male adolescents) for adolescents aged 10 to 19 years and from 17 different countries in North America, Australia, Europe, and Asia. The main findings replicate previous systematic reviews and global meta-analyses that similarly conclude that adolescent NSSI prevalence ranges between 11.5% and 33.8%2: Gillies et al3 report 16.9%, Swannell et al4 report 17.2%, and Muehlenkamp et al5 report 18.0%.’

I am not saying it is endemic and clearly the stats don’t back up ‘most’ but it is quite a large percentage (and this is just self injury, not other forms of self harm).

If you had asked me 6 months ago I would never, ever imagined I would be here writing this post.

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Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:49

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 13:12

Because he uses a computer for school. We have locked down pretty much every messaging app on the computer but he needs Outlook emails for school work. We can limit the time he uses it but he does still need some access to it for school work.

And? You talk to the school so they restrict virtual communication between the two.

Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:50

It’s as though you are talking about a 17 year old

not a 12 year old!

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 16:02

Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:49

And? You talk to the school so they restrict virtual communication between the two.

He does not have access to typical messaging apps. All blocked on his computer and as I have mentioned several times, he does not have a smartphone. We then learned they were using Pinterest to message and we blocked it, went to school and asked them to block it - and they did. But the school can only block access to websites over the WiFi - they can’t access the kids individual computers as they are provided by parents. They won’t touch the computers. They will not block access to Outlook which is how they are virtually communicating at the moment (albeit in a very limited way).

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Hassell · 22/05/2026 16:05

Ok so…. Every single day as soon as he gets home, he pulls up all outlook on his school computer so you can see. Anything inappropriate- straight to the school. Over and over again if need be

where there is a will, there’s a way

WhyTheHate · 22/05/2026 16:07

Hassell · 22/05/2026 16:05

Ok so…. Every single day as soon as he gets home, he pulls up all outlook on his school computer so you can see. Anything inappropriate- straight to the school. Over and over again if need be

where there is a will, there’s a way

Yes, that’s what we are doing and have been doing for two months.

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Hassell · 22/05/2026 16:17

So I’m confused how all these messages are still occurring?