Conscription fears for teen son

[Hazlenuts2016]

Anyone else with a teenage son getting more and more worried about conscription? Just saw this article and found the language scary. It's as if they want us to accept our sons and daughters dying as a sacrifice worth making! I know politicians wouldn't be talking this way because it would cost them votes, but maybe this is what is being explored. Posted this on another recent thread by the way, but then thought it would be better to start a new one.
https://news.sky.com/story/uks-sons-and-daughters-need-to-be-ready-to-fight-amid-growing-russian-threat-says-head-of-armed-forces-13483860?fbclid=IwdGRjcAOtTyBjbGNrA61PBGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHkoNStuMIR_04jEkekyh8IWQLQSQ2u3II0v-yEkA24TkmjZQF0fjeZ5art6J_aem_obDX_-el5u0dybYW31A3RQ

It’s scary but I think Europe really needs to start preparing to deter Russia from further escalation.

I’m not sacrificing my son for this government. No way. Let’s politicians send their children first.

No, because it won't happen.

The sacrifice wouldn't be for the government. It would be for the country. It's not a sustainable position for citizens to decide whether they'll defend their nation based on their opinion of the government in power.

If the whole of Europe goes to war it'll be full on not hand to hand battles like there are at the moment. Your ds/dd would likely be controlling a drone or moving stuff from A to B not picking up a gun.

I agree the idea is terrifying but if we get to that point something has gone very wrong.

I have 2 sons in their early 20s, and yes I do worry about this.
But for some reason, it's been a particular neurotic fear of mine since I was young - when I used to worry about my dad, brother or boyfriend being conscripted. I must have watched too many war films I think.
If Keir Starmer really wants our country's youth to be ready for war, he'll need to promote patriotism a bit more, I think. The dutiful 'For King and Country' days are long gone.

Our country can't even police it's own streets from petty crime. How do you really think the would police a conscription.

Why is this so funny?

Well, it won’t happen. But it’s probably better to have conscription than to be invaded by an occupying army and then have your teens tortured and raped before being murdered.

Won't be just the sons though or the feminists will riot, you would think.. 🤔

@ChristmasHug I know a lot of people are very worried, it's not just me. Agreed, there is a distinct lack of patriotism.

@Hancox432yes, it would be a logistical nightmare.

We live near a barracks and my ds school has lots of forces families. As far as I can tell the army is still shrinking. Barracks closing, housing stock being sold off. I honestly cannot see full scale conscription. They need highly trained technical personnel not conscripted kids.

A country isn’t an abstraction. It’s run by a government making the decisions- and citizens don’t owe blind sacrifice to bad ones.

Both my sons want to serve like my husband does so I don’t have much choice ha. Let’s hope they don’t conscript, I wouldn’t want conscripted with them.

I'm not worried, I think it's extremely unlikely to happen.

No, because it won't happen.

I need to check your crystal ball......

The fact is we have a bunch of crazies in world governments. Putin and Trump and far more far right governments getting into power. Argentia and now Chili.

What has happened at Bondi Beach, scary as shit.

Best to meditate for world peace.

@GreyCloudsLooming depends how conscription and the armed forces are managed. I think either possibility is pretty horrific.

Conscription surely doesn't work with a nation of teenagers who have no real patriotism/cop on/ability to follow orders. What are they going to do - whip them?

Can't imagine the army wasting its time trying to knock a bunch of rag tag tik tok watchers into shape.

Conscription worked in WWI because boys were patriotic and thought it would be a jolly jape. Now we know the horrors of war. I think it'll be ok.

Hasn't Sir Keir got teenage children.

No son of mine is going to defend Britain in its current state.

But it’s not happening anyway so stand down.

As an old doll, born of parents born before the Second World War, living during the Viatmese , Korean,Cold, Falklands Yugoslavian, Iraq wars - and a lot of squabbles in-between - I personally feel these are scary times indeed , and I get where you are feared for your children

War is different to what we were (I ) was bought up with - pure cannon fodder - war now it techno based

We are never going into a war as depicted in the films that you have grown up with. , wars going forward are going to be technical

Tbh, and Im nor a doomsday sayer, , Id be more concerned about my own abilities to survive a complete shut down of tech - cos that's where the real threat is

We won’t be fighting a war like we did in 1918 or 1939. Wars will be fought largely with technology. My son is a Royal Marine and said that they are learning what to do with drones etc. it’s unlikely we will have 10000s of our youth in trenches.

It's for each citizen to decide, of course, but when the chips are down, most will want to participate. All governments have their detractors but people have joined up regardless in times of war.

I'm not worried, I think it's extremely unlikely to happen.

Wars happen all the time all over the world.

Thailand/Cambodia border for example now.

Somalia has been a basket case for years.

China taking over Taiwan? It's in the pipeline and has been for years. It will happen. (Pray it doesn't).

They took over Tibet in the 1950's.