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14yo DD says she’s a trans boy and completely off the rails - just been excluded

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0WorriedMumOf3 · 30/06/2025 16:16

Right, sorry this is long and probably a bit all over the place, just don’t know what to do anymore. DD is 14 (well, says she’s a trans boy now so technically DS? still getting my head round it tbh) and her behaviour’s gone completely downhill the last year or so. Been holding it together best I can but today she got excluded from school and I’m at the end of my rope.

She’s always been on the more ‘tomboyish’ side – hated dresses as a kid, preferred climbing trees and football to dolls, all that. Never been overly girly, which was fine obviously, we just let her be who she is. But this last year it’s taken a real turn. She told us around Christmas she’s a boy and wants to be called a different name and we’re to use he/him. Said she’s known for years but only just had the courage to say it.

Me and DH were shocked but tried to be supportive, though tbh I’ve been struggling a lot more than him with it. I want her to be happy and herself but also feel like we’ve lost our daughter overnight. She’s now dressing completely different – baggy boys clothes, beanie hat glued to her head, voice dropped an octave (she forces it deeper), and she’s cut off all her old friends. Now only hangs round with this group of older boys who all seem a bit dodgy tbh. Some of them have been in trouble for vaping and nicking stuff and they egg each other on.

Since she came out as trans the behaviour’s been worse. She’s angry all the time. Everything’s a row – we use the wrong pronoun and she’s slamming doors and shouting she wants to die. She’s self harmed a few times and left notes in her room about hating herself. I’ve tried speaking to her but she just says we’ll never understand because we’re “cis” and “transphobic”. I’ve never said I don’t believe her or anything like that, just asked questions and tried to get her to slow down and talk things through, but she sees that as an attack.

School’s been an absolute nightmare. She’s barely in class anymore – constantly getting put in isolation for bad language, defiance, walking out of lessons. She got sent home a couple of months ago for fighting another girl – apparently over someone calling her by her old name. Then last week she had a proper meltdown in school, shouting at a teacher and pushing a boy, and today we got the call saying she’s been excluded for a week. They said it was aggressive behaviour and repeated rule breaking. We’ve got a meeting Thursday to discuss what happens next and I just feel sick about it.

We’re on the CAMHS waiting list but god knows when we’ll actually be seen. GP was sympathetic but said there’s not much they can do beyond referring. Tried to get her to speak to someone at school but she refuses, says everyone’s against her. She’s barely eating, sleeping at weird hours, and just glued to her phone 24/7 watching TikToks about being trans and cutting off toxic parents etc. It feels like she’s being pulled further and further away from us and I don’t know how to reach her.

For the record I’m not anti trans, and if this is really who she is then I’ll support her 100%. But I just don’t know if it is who she is, or if it’s something else – trauma, mental health, trying to find an identity in a group. She’s clearly unhappy and struggling massively. I’m terrified she’s going to get kicked out of school permanently or worse.

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Banannanana · 02/07/2025 22:28

I think for now OP you’re going to have to fully embrace the trans identity. No using the wrong pronoun, call him by his new name, and fully support that. It may well be a phase, but it also might not be, and if it’s not, this could all be a part of the rage. Really, so what if your child wants to wear boys clothes, go by a boys name and have a buzz cut. As long as no changes are made to the body this can all be undone.

What do you mean “if we use the wrong pronoun?” OP, you know the pronouns are he/him, you’ve been told. You’ve had since Christmas. You know full well what they are, you’re refusing to use them. You misgender throughout this post. Your child will remember that. You’re also focusing more on your struggles with it than your child. Respectfully, your child’s identity really isn’t about you and it really doesn’t matter how you feel about it, they are who they are.

Having said that, I would still look at restrictions to the phone.

Also, it sounds like your child is in an awful lot of pain. It sounds like they’ve gone through a lot that you are fairly dismissive of. Bullying, struggling with friendships, not feeling settled, divorced parents, a rocky relationship with dad, a severely disabled sibling that means the family’s life is restricted and now potentially being trans? You really need to start looking at and taking seriously how much your child has been/is going through. A lot of your post comes off like you’re unaware and dismissive of that. Counselling may help, but you really need to stop being so dismissive of their pain.

Sounds like they’re acting out because they are hurting.

saraclara · 02/07/2025 22:37

OxfordInkling · 02/07/2025 11:48

It is real advice as to what I’d do. And yes, I can arrange my finances to do it. T’is a pity you can’t, but then some people aren’t planners.

Pretty sure that OP didn't plan for a severely autistic non-verbal child, who she can hardly leave behind while she goes travelling.

🙄

LeOnARdOdEvInCi · 04/09/2025 03:36

i think you should support him. the acting out isn't okay, but you can't ever tell whats going through his head. coming from someone in his exact position. a 2024 study published by Neurology Advisor said that 41.5% of trans teens without supportive parents reported a suicide attempt by age 18.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 04/09/2025 04:55

Why are you being ruled by your 14 year old child's meltdowns? 14 is too young for unregulated internet access. I would remove phone until behaviour improves then limit access. ( What is she watching that's egging her on? Start with removing that). Then separate out what is reasonable from bad behaviour. She wants to wear boys clothes - fine. Go shopping or give her money to choose some. Pronoun change - fine. She wants to hang out with new dodgy mates- not fine. Knock that on the head and give opportunities to meet new people. What about her old friends? What went on there? Have they stepped bXk because of her behaviour or are they contributing to it via bullying etc? Feeling her feelings - fine. Acting out and being rude- not fine. She obviously has a lot going on - give her lots of love and positive attention but met by negative behaviour with firlm consequences.

Ihavetoask · 04/09/2025 05:08

She’s always been on the more ‘tomboyish’ side – hated dresses as a kid, preferred climbing trees and football to dolls, all that. Never been overly girly, which was fine obviously, we just let her be who she is

Really gendered thinking. So she could never feel as if she could like those things and just be a girl. She was labelled a boy girl. Not a girly girl. A tomboy. How could she ever be comfortable in her skin and body?

I think the first thing I'd do is admit we made a huge mistake with this aspect of parenting

UncertainPerson · 04/09/2025 05:20

I think you urgently need an autism assessment. Your mention of animation and drawing sounds like a special interest. Your home may be set up as autism friendly and not registering sensory or other issues. There’s so much more out there on ASD presentation in girls now, have a quick Google.

I also think you’re maybe under playing the impact of parental separation and having a disabled sibling whose needs trump everything. (Not a criticism of you at all btw, am sure you’re doing your best in a tough situation).

WallTree · 04/09/2025 05:56

Mumsnet is a terrible place to get advice on how to support your trans child.

Ihavetoask · 04/09/2025 06:01

WallTree · 04/09/2025 05:56

Mumsnet is a terrible place to get advice on how to support your trans child.

I think it is also more likely that you'll end up with a trans child if you absorb too many of the messages bandied about around here.

Bellsbeachwaves · 04/09/2025 18:05

Sounds like teenage rebellion. Basically fireworks. That said, put rules in. WiFi off at 11. Control your router. Safesearch on. If she gets excluded she loses the phone for a week. Let the school deal with her. Tell her she has to deal with the school. If she swears take money away. If she's rude take money away. She will flounce. Let her. You have to withstand her rage and fury. Stand firm. You can do this. She is highly likely to come through it. Maybe when she's 25.

Bellsbeachwaves · 04/09/2025 18:06

And maybe listen to her. Ok, you're a he. Humour it. But you can't be a twat.

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