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Mums - avoid Marmalade Insurance for your Learner Drivers

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OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 10:52

Parents - be warned. Do NOT risk your children with Marmalade Insurance

Any parents thinking about taking out a policy for one of their children with Marmalade Insurance, please read this and think carefully about going elsewhere.

Our child (now 22) was added twice by my wife and I as a Named Driver to my wife's car insurance, in 2020 and 2021 respectively. The product was fine, no issue (we thought)

Yesterday, at least 3 and probably 4 years later, we received a letter from a CRS (a Credit Re-assignment agency), addressed to our son at our home address, saying that they had taken over a debt of (wait for it!) £29.26 from Marmalade Insurance, and that I should have no more dealings with Marmalade (who I haven't heard from since the end of the second policy in 2021) as they were now the owners of my son's debt!

He called Marmalade and they said they were not able to give me any information about what this sum related to. When my son said truthfully that he not once over 4 years received any kind of payment request, they gave him the email address they said they held for him. This was my son's email address from his secondary school, that he left in the summer of 2021 and has not been able to access since, like all school leavers

It is actually even worse. We as his parents checked our own email records and this confirmed that it was myself in 2020 and my wife in 2021 who had paid for the policies, and therefore my son had been wrongly (and we think illegally) identified by Marmalade as responsible for this paltry sum.

i) My son never had any kind of financial contract with Marmalade

ii) between 2020 and 2024 he never received a single explanation or payment request from Marmalade of any outstanding sum. If they sent any at all (we have no evidence they did), it was sent to a dead email address that was given in 2020 at the time of his first being added as named learner driver via a Marmalade product, but he then left school as year later

iii) Marmalade then seem 4 years later to have basically "sold" the debt of £29 to this Credit Reassignment Services company (online searches show that the business model for firms like CRS is that they normally buy bulk minor debts for around 60-70% of face value).

iv) Marmalade customer service refused to give him any detail over the phone, saying that the account was now "owned" by CRS

The reason parents should NOT trust a company that acts in this way is not because of £30, which is obviously neither here nor there

But Marmalade and their lamentable administration systems and multiple failures are playing with your children's credit histories and future credit searches

I am obviously going to establish and reverse any adverse credit report on my son's name made by Marmalade, but parents should be WARNED.

Don't be fooled by the slick brand and lovely website. And certainly don't be fooled by the values statement on the Marmalade website - which talks about how they "support young people" and "We work with empathy, and in collaboration with our young community"

Empathy and collaboration?!

Marmalade just threatened to wreck our son's impeccable credit history and future prospects by flogging a debt incorrectly assigned to him for around £20 to this CRS agency.

My wife and I have been customers of Marmalade over three products (two for this son, and 1 for a daughter). Our premiums paid probably close to above £1000 over that time. And the thanks we get is Marmalade playing fast and loose with our son's credit prospects for the sake of £20

Lived experience is how you judge the real values of a company

Parents, don't make the mistake we did. Go elsewhere

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whichfan · 27/07/2024 10:54

my nephew had a great experience with them

manonwelfling · 27/07/2024 11:00

Good to know and thanks for your post.

Member786488 · 27/07/2024 11:59

So many reviews are posted based on the ease of buying a policy and not on having to make a claim or any other interaction.
thanks for your experience.

OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 11:59

whichfan · 27/07/2024 10:54

my nephew had a great experience with them

yes, but bear in mind, so did we. The insurance period was uneventful and ended without incident three years ago. The Debt Agency letter addressed to my son landed last week

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whichfan · 27/07/2024 15:57

This was my son's email address from his secondary school, that he left in the summer of 2021 and has not been able to access since, like all school leavers

so… you should have updated his contact details 🤷

He didn’t have a personal email?!

whichfan · 27/07/2024 15:58

your ADULT son took out the policy with Marmelade

the fact you paid for it - irrelevant

the policy was in his name
the contact details were his (although for some reason you gave one he had a few months more to access)

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:00

it is not about who paid for an insurance policy

it is about who the driver is

and that is with whom they engage with

unbelievable you’d think otherwise

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:03

I am obviously going to establish and reverse any adverse credit report on my son's name made by Marmalade, but parents should be WARNED.

good luck with that! no chance

Any reason why your adult son can’t deal with his own credit history?

So you’ve paid the debt or appealing?

GrazingSheep · 27/07/2024 16:05

*@whichfan · Today 16:00
it is not about who paid for an insurance policy

it is about who the driver is

and that is with whom they engage with

unbelievable you’d think otherwise*

He was added as a named driver to his mother’s policy. Surely they should be engaging with her?

GrazingSheep · 27/07/2024 16:07

your ADULT son took out the policy with Marmelade

He didn’t.

Mylondonmug · 27/07/2024 16:07

Thanks for this OP!

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:11

GrazingSheep · 27/07/2024 16:07

your ADULT son took out the policy with Marmelade

He didn’t.

as soon as be passed

he was the policy holder

he wasn’t a named driver

ThursdayTomorrow · 27/07/2024 16:12

I’m sorry OP but I don’t think Marmalade are in the wrong here. They would have contacted your son via the email address given. I’m not sure why a school email address was used, especially knowing it would soon be obsolete. I would say it WAS your son’s responsibility as it’s not Marmalade’s fault they were given a school email for contact details (your son could have used a personal email or even a parental one).

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:12

ThursdayTomorrow · 27/07/2024 16:12

I’m sorry OP but I don’t think Marmalade are in the wrong here. They would have contacted your son via the email address given. I’m not sure why a school email address was used, especially knowing it would soon be obsolete. I would say it WAS your son’s responsibility as it’s not Marmalade’s fault they were given a school email for contact details (your son could have used a personal email or even a parental one).

exactly

he was surely very close to leaving school

cock up on part of OP

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:14

GrazingSheep · 27/07/2024 16:05

*@whichfan · Today 16:00
it is not about who paid for an insurance policy

it is about who the driver is

and that is with whom they engage with

unbelievable you’d think otherwise*

He was added as a named driver to his mother’s policy. Surely they should be engaging with her?

who I haven't heard from since the end of the second policy in 2021

so since then the DS has been the policyholder

and i’d wager the debt was from then.

loudbatperson · 27/07/2024 16:15

It's the policyholders responsibility to keep his contact details up to date. He didn't, causing this issue. Surely him losing access to that email was an entirely predictable issue?

Why on earth was he using his school email for non school matters anyway?

At least he is learning a valuable lesson about keeping on top of basic admin.

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:17

he took a policy out when 17?
for some reason have the school email to which he would have no access to within months

no one updated contact details
at renewal, no one updated contact details
when he had the policy in own name after two policy years, he still didn’t update contact details

So… how were renewal documents sent op? given you have had no dealings with them since the end of the second policy?

TerfTalking · 27/07/2024 16:18

From my recollection of Marmalade when my DC were learners over a decade ago, the policy was entirely separate from my own, it was in the child’s name (I paid) but using my car, so in effect my car had two policies on it. The Marmalade policies were like £100 a month and you took them out a month at a time.

I do remember being happy to take it out as my own NCB wasn’t impacted should they bump my car.

I'm pretty sure this is on your DC who would have been the policy holder. If he wasn’t why would the OP have used his email when taking out the policy, they would have used their own.

Marmalade policies are in effect temporary insurance for learner drivers.

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:20

so… i’ve just spoken to nephew

initially was named driver

and then had policy in own name. All details were in his name (despite fact my sister’s credit card paid for it!)

OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:19

whichfan · 27/07/2024 15:58

your ADULT son took out the policy with Marmelade

the fact you paid for it - irrelevant

the policy was in his name
the contact details were his (although for some reason you gave one he had a few months more to access)

my son was a minor when the policy was taken out. and a school kid

Strange that you felt the need to write so many posts about this.

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OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:20

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:17

he took a policy out when 17?
for some reason have the school email to which he would have no access to within months

no one updated contact details
at renewal, no one updated contact details
when he had the policy in own name after two policy years, he still didn’t update contact details

So… how were renewal documents sent op? given you have had no dealings with them since the end of the second policy?

separate policy

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OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:21

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:12

exactly

he was surely very close to leaving school

cock up on part of OP

the policy in question began and ended when he was at school.

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OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:23

loudbatperson · 27/07/2024 16:15

It's the policyholders responsibility to keep his contact details up to date. He didn't, causing this issue. Surely him losing access to that email was an entirely predictable issue?

Why on earth was he using his school email for non school matters anyway?

At least he is learning a valuable lesson about keeping on top of basic admin.

the school email address was still in use when the policy ended. The issue here is that Marmalade seem to have levied a charge several years after the policy ended. He also had a mobile number which has not changed registered with Marmalade, and they never sent an SMS over the past 3 years

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OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:26

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:20

so… i’ve just spoken to nephew

initially was named driver

and then had policy in own name. All details were in his name (despite fact my sister’s credit card paid for it!)

my son was also a named driver, not a policy holder in his own right. Think from what we can find in my email that the policy cost £161, was for 1 or 2 months max in October and November 2020, some 8 months before he left school and 10 months before they lost access to the school email

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OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:26

whichfan · 27/07/2024 16:17

he took a policy out when 17?
for some reason have the school email to which he would have no access to within months

no one updated contact details
at renewal, no one updated contact details
when he had the policy in own name after two policy years, he still didn’t update contact details

So… how were renewal documents sent op? given you have had no dealings with them since the end of the second policy?

separate polices. Neither in his name

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