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Mums - avoid Marmalade Insurance for your Learner Drivers

47 replies

OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 10:52

Parents - be warned. Do NOT risk your children with Marmalade Insurance

Any parents thinking about taking out a policy for one of their children with Marmalade Insurance, please read this and think carefully about going elsewhere.

Our child (now 22) was added twice by my wife and I as a Named Driver to my wife's car insurance, in 2020 and 2021 respectively. The product was fine, no issue (we thought)

Yesterday, at least 3 and probably 4 years later, we received a letter from a CRS (a Credit Re-assignment agency), addressed to our son at our home address, saying that they had taken over a debt of (wait for it!) £29.26 from Marmalade Insurance, and that I should have no more dealings with Marmalade (who I haven't heard from since the end of the second policy in 2021) as they were now the owners of my son's debt!

He called Marmalade and they said they were not able to give me any information about what this sum related to. When my son said truthfully that he not once over 4 years received any kind of payment request, they gave him the email address they said they held for him. This was my son's email address from his secondary school, that he left in the summer of 2021 and has not been able to access since, like all school leavers

It is actually even worse. We as his parents checked our own email records and this confirmed that it was myself in 2020 and my wife in 2021 who had paid for the policies, and therefore my son had been wrongly (and we think illegally) identified by Marmalade as responsible for this paltry sum.

i) My son never had any kind of financial contract with Marmalade

ii) between 2020 and 2024 he never received a single explanation or payment request from Marmalade of any outstanding sum. If they sent any at all (we have no evidence they did), it was sent to a dead email address that was given in 2020 at the time of his first being added as named learner driver via a Marmalade product, but he then left school as year later

iii) Marmalade then seem 4 years later to have basically "sold" the debt of £29 to this Credit Reassignment Services company (online searches show that the business model for firms like CRS is that they normally buy bulk minor debts for around 60-70% of face value).

iv) Marmalade customer service refused to give him any detail over the phone, saying that the account was now "owned" by CRS

The reason parents should NOT trust a company that acts in this way is not because of £30, which is obviously neither here nor there

But Marmalade and their lamentable administration systems and multiple failures are playing with your children's credit histories and future credit searches

I am obviously going to establish and reverse any adverse credit report on my son's name made by Marmalade, but parents should be WARNED.

Don't be fooled by the slick brand and lovely website. And certainly don't be fooled by the values statement on the Marmalade website - which talks about how they "support young people" and "We work with empathy, and in collaboration with our young community"

Empathy and collaboration?!

Marmalade just threatened to wreck our son's impeccable credit history and future prospects by flogging a debt incorrectly assigned to him for around £20 to this CRS agency.

My wife and I have been customers of Marmalade over three products (two for this son, and 1 for a daughter). Our premiums paid probably close to above £1000 over that time. And the thanks we get is Marmalade playing fast and loose with our son's credit prospects for the sake of £20

Lived experience is how you judge the real values of a company

Parents, don't make the mistake we did. Go elsewhere

OP posts:
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whichfan · 27/07/2024 19:29

OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:20

separate policy

what do you mean “separate policy”

where were renewal docs sent?

whichfan · 27/07/2024 19:30

OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:19

my son was a minor when the policy was taken out. and a school kid

Strange that you felt the need to write so many posts about this.

i could say the same about you starting the thread 🤷

whichfan · 27/07/2024 19:31

ah when you say separate policy, after he passed… he went with a different insurer?

yesyouknow · 11/08/2024 14:35

did you manage to “reverse” your son’s poor credit history?

because on basis of what you’ve written, you didn’t update insurer with his contact details so….

OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 17:28

whichfan · 27/07/2024 19:30

i could say the same about you starting the thread 🤷

Hi "whichfan" - I thought you might like to see this. My son was 100% exonerated by the Marmalade complaints dept

I counted almost a dozen derogatory replies from you to a post I left in good faith to warn other parents about our experience with Marmalade. Its quite a shock for a parent to see a letter arrive for their child from a Debt Recovery agency, and therefore I genuinely wanted to warn other parents by sharing my experience.

Your replies were, I thought, individually and in aggregate quite unpleasant. Felt very close to "trolling". Do please think twice about doing this to other parents who may be trying in good faith to use the mumsnet platform. There is additionally support all of us can and should access when we see our behaviour is perhaps spiralling a bit. No-one likes to see trolling

-- Forwarded message -----
From: <MarmaladeComplaints@>
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Complaint Response

Complaint Response

Complaint Ref: 2319xxxxx (last 4 digits anonymised)

Dear Mr (name removed)

Thank you for taking the time to raise your concerns on 14 August 2024. I understand you are unhappy that you have received correspondence regarding an outstanding balance from 2022 and that it has been passed to our external debt recovery team.

Having looked into your complaint, I have upheld it, and I am sorry for the trouble this matter has caused.

After your policy was cancelled in 2022, an outstanding balance of £29.26 was generated. We failed to notify you until 19 April 2024. We sent multiple emails during May, June, and July requesting that you contact us to discuss the balance; however, upon reviewing your policy they were all returned as undelivered. Subsequently, with no response received, the balance was forwarded to Credit Recovery Solutions (CRS).

Because of the above, I feel we have not given sufficient notice of the balance, and I will agree we should have made you aware of this sooner. As a way of putting things right, I have arranged for the balance to be recalled from CRS and removed from your account.

I would like to mention that CRS does not leave a marker on your credit file and should not affect your credit history in the future. If you feel there is something I have not addressed or considered within my response, please let me know, and I will be happy to look into matters further for you.

What happens next:
If you are unhappy with our response to your complaint, you can refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge. If you want to refer it, you must do so within six months of the date of this email.
If you refer it to them after six months has passed, the Ombudsman will not have our permission to consider your complaint and so will only be able to do so in very limited circumstances. For example, if the Ombudsman believes that the delay was a result of exceptional circumstances.
The following website https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ordering-leaflet/leaflet includes more information on the service provided by the Financial Ombudsman Service. If you would prefer to receive a hard copy of the leaflet, then please let us know and we will post this to you.

Yours sincerely

Sian Clay - Marmalade Complaints Team

Marmalade is a trading name of Atlanta Insurance Intemediaries Limited. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority under firm reference number 309599. Company registration number: 756681. Registered address: Embankment West Tower, 101 Cathedral Approach, Salford, M3 7FB

Our consumer leaflet: 'Want to take your complaint further?'

Read the web version of our consumer leaflet.

https://u20574193.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=u001.BBmAQT3S3baT7exvr4fsqjfCojNNdEEUGsGxkWKfFSQVTdbR3sy8NaCcXBPqINNopUOKu-2BSX3ijVuvCbJYlhMuRGS8DnbBOt4IqEUgW6EEPgC5ixMx9al-2BAmLesXpkqzq6Jo_p4A4YQt8epDIK9HlKea9sWF2duaLpVzmX9iLTrXW2CxpCfr9cL19uA7Dy0OcWt2tpfAvFHp8HLVda6tDAIY-2BsTGHl69KSqkJWfjp9hWqRkOH1C3otRgHoaxOqn0MaRA0VtippKQd02NVpsDzKt9BqtwKkKKulgr8NiBNhSq0HUIEfYFzFz2A0-2BJ2PzyCsmZWRPQWKLRYx1bVQ2TYLFwlZfyYTz1-2BvLsAhheQ58J4viE-3D

OP posts:
OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 17:31

GrazingSheep · 27/07/2024 16:07

your ADULT son took out the policy with Marmelade

He didn’t.

Hi Grazing Sheep

there was nothing bad about how you raised this, but I wanted to share this reply my son got from Marmalade today, 100% upholding the complaint.

We did nothing wrong, and therefore I was right to try and bring this to the attention of other Mumsnet users

-- Forwarded message -----
From: <MarmaladeComplaints@>
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Complaint Response

Complaint Response

Complaint Ref: 2319xxxxx (last 4 digits anonymised)

Dear Mr (name removed)

Thank you for taking the time to raise your concerns on 14 August 2024. I understand you are unhappy that you have received correspondence regarding an outstanding balance from 2022 and that it has been passed to our external debt recovery team.

Having looked into your complaint, I have upheld it, and I am sorry for the trouble this matter has caused.

After your policy was cancelled in 2022, an outstanding balance of £29.26 was generated. We failed to notify you until 19 April 2024. We sent multiple emails during May, June, and July requesting that you contact us to discuss the balance; however, upon reviewing your policy they were all returned as undelivered. Subsequently, with no response received, the balance was forwarded to Credit Recovery Solutions (CRS).

Because of the above, I feel we have not given sufficient notice of the balance, and I will agree we should have made you aware of this sooner. As a way of putting things right, I have arranged for the balance to be recalled from CRS and removed from your account.

I would like to mention that CRS does not leave a marker on your credit file and should not affect your credit history in the future. If you feel there is something I have not addressed or considered within my response, please let me know, and I will be happy to look into matters further for you.

What happens next:
If you are unhappy with our response to your complaint, you can refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge. If you want to refer it, you must do so within six months of the date of this email.
If you refer it to them after six months has passed, the Ombudsman will not have our permission to consider your complaint and so will only be able to do so in very limited circumstances. For example, if the Ombudsman believes that the delay was a result of exceptional circumstances.
The following website https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ordering-leaflet/leaflet includes more information on the service provided by the Financial Ombudsman Service. If you would prefer to receive a hard copy of the leaflet, then please let us know and we will post this to you.

Yours sincerely

Sian Clay - Marmalade Complaints Team

Marmalade is a trading name of Atlanta Insurance Intemediaries Limited. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority under firm reference number 309599. Company registration number: 756681. Registered address: Embankment West Tower, 101 Cathedral Approach, Salford, M3 7FB

Our consumer leaflet: 'Want to take your complaint further?'

Read the web version of our consumer leaflet.

https://u20574193.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=u001.BBmAQT3S3baT7exvr4fsqjfCojNNdEEUGsGxkWKfFSQVTdbR3sy8NaCcXBPqINNopUOKu-2BSX3ijVuvCbJYlhMuRGS8DnbBOt4IqEUgW6EEPgC5ixMx9al-2BAmLesXpkqzq6Jo_p4A4YQt8epDIK9HlKea9sWF2duaLpVzmX9iLTrXW2CxpCfr9cL19uA7Dy0OcWt2tpfAvFHp8HLVda6tDAIY-2BsTGHl69KSqkJWfjp9hWqRkOH1C3otRgHoaxOqn0MaRA0VtippKQd02NVpsDzKt9BqtwKkKKulgr8NiBNhSq0HUIEfYFzFz2A0-2BJ2PzyCsmZWRPQWKLRYx1bVQ2TYLFwlZfyYTz1-2BvLsAhheQ58J4viE-3D

OP posts:
OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 17:35

yesyouknow · 11/08/2024 14:35

did you manage to “reverse” your son’s poor credit history?

because on basis of what you’ve written, you didn’t update insurer with his contact details so….

Hi "yesyouknow"

yes, I did. I have just had confirmation from that from Marmalade, who have upheld our complaint in full and guaranteed there will be no credit mark, thank you for asking

The question you made was valid and fair, but Marmalade have now admitted that they didn't attempt to recover this sum apparently still owing for over two years after the policy elapsed. Obviously, nobody can reasonably be expected to go back years in time to update companies where one took out a single policy years earlier with new contact details

-- Forwarded message -----
From: <MarmaladeComplaints@>
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Complaint Response

Complaint Response

Complaint Ref: 2319xxxxx (last 4 digits anonymised)

Dear Mr (name removed)

Thank you for taking the time to raise your concerns on 14 August 2024. I understand you are unhappy that you have received correspondence regarding an outstanding balance from 2022 and that it has been passed to our external debt recovery team.

Having looked into your complaint, I have upheld it, and I am sorry for the trouble this matter has caused.

After your policy was cancelled in 2022, an outstanding balance of £29.26 was generated. We failed to notify you until 19 April 2024. We sent multiple emails during May, June, and July requesting that you contact us to discuss the balance; however, upon reviewing your policy they were all returned as undelivered. Subsequently, with no response received, the balance was forwarded to Credit Recovery Solutions (CRS).

Because of the above, I feel we have not given sufficient notice of the balance, and I will agree we should have made you aware of this sooner. As a way of putting things right, I have arranged for the balance to be recalled from CRS and removed from your account.

I would like to mention that CRS does not leave a marker on your credit file and should not affect your credit history in the future. If you feel there is something I have not addressed or considered within my response, please let me know, and I will be happy to look into matters further for you.

What happens next:
If you are unhappy with our response to your complaint, you can refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge. If you want to refer it, you must do so within six months of the date of this email.
If you refer it to them after six months has passed, the Ombudsman will not have our permission to consider your complaint and so will only be able to do so in very limited circumstances. For example, if the Ombudsman believes that the delay was a result of exceptional circumstances.
The following website https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ordering-leaflet/leaflet includes more information on the service provided by the Financial Ombudsman Service. If you would prefer to receive a hard copy of the leaflet, then please let us know and we will post this to you.

Yours sincerely

Sian Clay - Marmalade Complaints Team

Marmalade is a trading name of Atlanta Insurance Intemediaries Limited. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority under firm reference number 309599. Company registration number: 756681. Registered address: Embankment West Tower, 101 Cathedral Approach, Salford, M3 7FB

Our consumer leaflet: 'Want to take your complaint further?'

Read the web version of our consumer leaflet.

https://u20574193.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=u001.BBmAQT3S3baT7exvr4fsqjfCojNNdEEUGsGxkWKfFSQVTdbR3sy8NaCcXBPqINNopUOKu-2BSX3ijVuvCbJYlhMuRGS8DnbBOt4IqEUgW6EEPgC5ixMx9al-2BAmLesXpkqzq6Jo_p4A4YQt8epDIK9HlKea9sWF2duaLpVzmX9iLTrXW2CxpCfr9cL19uA7Dy0OcWt2tpfAvFHp8HLVda6tDAIY-2BsTGHl69KSqkJWfjp9hWqRkOH1C3otRgHoaxOqn0MaRA0VtippKQd02NVpsDzKt9BqtwKkKKulgr8NiBNhSq0HUIEfYFzFz2A0-2BJ2PzyCsmZWRPQWKLRYx1bVQ2TYLFwlZfyYTz1-2BvLsAhheQ58J4viE-3D

OP posts:
OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 17:39

ThursdayTomorrow · 27/07/2024 16:12

I’m sorry OP but I don’t think Marmalade are in the wrong here. They would have contacted your son via the email address given. I’m not sure why a school email address was used, especially knowing it would soon be obsolete. I would say it WAS your son’s responsibility as it’s not Marmalade’s fault they were given a school email for contact details (your son could have used a personal email or even a parental one).

Hi Thursdaytomorrow

just to close off your perfectly reasonable reply, kindly see the response just received from marmalade, who have 100% upheld our complaint. It turned out 2 years elapsed before they attempted to contact my son, and this was after a short duration Learned Driver policy. I am sure you would agree that we dodn't actually have a responsbility to go back in time and update contact details with companies we have had short and long past contracts. Still have no idea by the way why they thought he owed £29, but they have cancelled it now anyway.

-- Forwarded message -----
From: <MarmaladeComplaints@>
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Complaint Response

Complaint Response

Complaint Ref: 2319xxxxx (last 4 digits anonymised)

Dear Mr (name removed)

Thank you for taking the time to raise your concerns on 14 August 2024. I understand you are unhappy that you have received correspondence regarding an outstanding balance from 2022 and that it has been passed to our external debt recovery team.

Having looked into your complaint, I have upheld it, and I am sorry for the trouble this matter has caused.

After your policy was cancelled in 2022, an outstanding balance of £29.26 was generated. We failed to notify you until 19 April 2024. We sent multiple emails during May, June, and July requesting that you contact us to discuss the balance; however, upon reviewing your policy they were all returned as undelivered. Subsequently, with no response received, the balance was forwarded to Credit Recovery Solutions (CRS).

Because of the above, I feel we have not given sufficient notice of the balance, and I will agree we should have made you aware of this sooner. As a way of putting things right, I have arranged for the balance to be recalled from CRS and removed from your account.

I would like to mention that CRS does not leave a marker on your credit file and should not affect your credit history in the future. If you feel there is something I have not addressed or considered within my response, please let me know, and I will be happy to look into matters further for you.

What happens next:
If you are unhappy with our response to your complaint, you can refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge. If you want to refer it, you must do so within six months of the date of this email.
If you refer it to them after six months has passed, the Ombudsman will not have our permission to consider your complaint and so will only be able to do so in very limited circumstances. For example, if the Ombudsman believes that the delay was a result of exceptional circumstances.
The following website https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ordering-leaflet/leaflet includes more information on the service provided by the Financial Ombudsman Service. If you would prefer to receive a hard copy of the leaflet, then please let us know and we will post this to you.

Yours sincerely

Sian Clay - Marmalade Complaints Team

Marmalade is a trading name of Atlanta Insurance Intemediaries Limited. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority under firm reference number 309599. Company registration number: 756681. Registered address: Embankment West Tower, 101 Cathedral Approach, Salford, M3 7FB

Our consumer leaflet: 'Want to take your complaint further?'

Read the web version of our consumer leaflet.

https://u20574193.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=u001.BBmAQT3S3baT7exvr4fsqjfCojNNdEEUGsGxkWKfFSQVTdbR3sy8NaCcXBPqINNopUOKu-2BSX3ijVuvCbJYlhMuRGS8DnbBOt4IqEUgW6EEPgC5ixMx9al-2BAmLesXpkqzq6Jo_p4A4YQt8epDIK9HlKea9sWF2duaLpVzmX9iLTrXW2CxpCfr9cL19uA7Dy0OcWt2tpfAvFHp8HLVda6tDAIY-2BsTGHl69KSqkJWfjp9hWqRkOH1C3otRgHoaxOqn0MaRA0VtippKQd02NVpsDzKt9BqtwKkKKulgr8NiBNhSq0HUIEfYFzFz2A0-2BJ2PzyCsmZWRPQWKLRYx1bVQ2TYLFwlZfyYTz1-2BvLsAhheQ58J4viE-3D

OP posts:
OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 17:48

loudbatperson · 27/07/2024 16:15

It's the policyholders responsibility to keep his contact details up to date. He didn't, causing this issue. Surely him losing access to that email was an entirely predictable issue?

Why on earth was he using his school email for non school matters anyway?

At least he is learning a valuable lesson about keeping on top of basic admin.

Hi Loudbatperson

your post was reasonable enough, but, as you can see from the response just received from marmalade complaints team, this was NOT what happened here. For reasons best known to themselves, they waited more than 2 years after the end of a short duration contract before trying to contact him for an alleged deby of £29 (which even in this complaint response they have not explained what they think it was for). As you can see from what they say, they missed over 4 months multiple emails from the email account they used saying the message was not delivered and somehow saw fit to then sell this "debt" to a Debt recovery company

It is precisely because this case was so unusual that I wanted to warn other parents via this platform.

-- Forwarded message -----
From: <MarmaladeComplaints@>
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Complaint Response

Complaint Response

Complaint Ref: 2319xxxxx (last 4 digits anonymised)

Dear Mr (name removed)

Thank you for taking the time to raise your concerns on 14 August 2024. I understand you are unhappy that you have received correspondence regarding an outstanding balance from 2022 and that it has been passed to our external debt recovery team.

Having looked into your complaint, I have upheld it, and I am sorry for the trouble this matter has caused.

After your policy was cancelled in 2022, an outstanding balance of £29.26 was generated. We failed to notify you until 19 April 2024. We sent multiple emails during May, June, and July requesting that you contact us to discuss the balance; however, upon reviewing your policy they were all returned as undelivered. Subsequently, with no response received, the balance was forwarded to Credit Recovery Solutions (CRS).

Because of the above, I feel we have not given sufficient notice of the balance, and I will agree we should have made you aware of this sooner. As a way of putting things right, I have arranged for the balance to be recalled from CRS and removed from your account.

I would like to mention that CRS does not leave a marker on your credit file and should not affect your credit history in the future. If you feel there is something I have not addressed or considered within my response, please let me know, and I will be happy to look into matters further for you.

What happens next:
If you are unhappy with our response to your complaint, you can refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge. If you want to refer it, you must do so within six months of the date of this email.
If you refer it to them after six months has passed, the Ombudsman will not have our permission to consider your complaint and so will only be able to do so in very limited circumstances. For example, if the Ombudsman believes that the delay was a result of exceptional circumstances.
The following website https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ordering-leaflet/leaflet includes more information on the service provided by the Financial Ombudsman Service. If you would prefer to receive a hard copy of the leaflet, then please let us know and we will post this to you.

Yours sincerely

Sian Clay - Marmalade Complaints Team

Marmalade is a trading name of Atlanta Insurance Intemediaries Limited. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority under firm reference number 309599. Company registration number: 756681. Registered address: Embankment West Tower, 101 Cathedral Approach, Salford, M3 7FB

Our consumer leaflet: 'Want to take your complaint further?'

Read the web version of our consumer leaflet.

https://u20574193.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=u001.BBmAQT3S3baT7exvr4fsqjfCojNNdEEUGsGxkWKfFSQVTdbR3sy8NaCcXBPqINNopUOKu-2BSX3ijVuvCbJYlhMuRGS8DnbBOt4IqEUgW6EEPgC5ixMx9al-2BAmLesXpkqzq6Jo_p4A4YQt8epDIK9HlKea9sWF2duaLpVzmX9iLTrXW2CxpCfr9cL19uA7Dy0OcWt2tpfAvFHp8HLVda6tDAIY-2BsTGHl69KSqkJWfjp9hWqRkOH1C3otRgHoaxOqn0MaRA0VtippKQd02NVpsDzKt9BqtwKkKKulgr8NiBNhSq0HUIEfYFzFz2A0-2BJ2PzyCsmZWRPQWKLRYx1bVQ2TYLFwlZfyYTz1-2BvLsAhheQ58J4viE-3D

OP posts:
OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 17:51

Hi "whichfan" - I thought you might like to see this. My son was 100% exonerated by the Marmalade complaints dept

I counted almost a dozen derogatory replies from you to a post I left in good faith to warn other parents about our experience with Marmalade. Its quite a shock for a parent to see a letter arrive for their child from a Debt Recovery agency, and therefore I genuinely wanted to warn other parents by sharing my experience.

Your replies were, I thought, individually and in aggregate quite unpleasant. Felt very close to "trolling". Do please think twice about doing this to other parents who may be trying in good faith to use the mumsnet platform. There is additionally support all of us can and should access when we see our behaviour is perhaps spiralling a bit. No-one likes to see trolling

-- Forwarded message -----
From: <MarmaladeComplaints@>
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Complaint Response

Complaint Response

Complaint Ref: 2319xxxxx (last 4 digits anonymised)

Dear Mr (name removed)

Thank you for taking the time to raise your concerns on 14 August 2024. I understand you are unhappy that you have received correspondence regarding an outstanding balance from 2022 and that it has been passed to our external debt recovery team.

Having looked into your complaint, I have upheld it, and I am sorry for the trouble this matter has caused.

After your policy was cancelled in 2022, an outstanding balance of £29.26 was generated. We failed to notify you until 19 April 2024. We sent multiple emails during May, June, and July requesting that you contact us to discuss the balance; however, upon reviewing your policy they were all returned as undelivered. Subsequently, with no response received, the balance was forwarded to Credit Recovery Solutions (CRS).

Because of the above, I feel we have not given sufficient notice of the balance, and I will agree we should have made you aware of this sooner. As a way of putting things right, I have arranged for the balance to be recalled from CRS and removed from your account.

I would like to mention that CRS does not leave a marker on your credit file and should not affect your credit history in the future. If you feel there is something I have not addressed or considered within my response, please let me know, and I will be happy to look into matters further for you.

What happens next:
If you are unhappy with our response to your complaint, you can refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge. If you want to refer it, you must do so within six months of the date of this email.
If you refer it to them after six months has passed, the Ombudsman will not have our permission to consider your complaint and so will only be able to do so in very limited circumstances. For example, if the Ombudsman believes that the delay was a result of exceptional circumstances.
The following website ^https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ordering-leaflet/leaflet^ includes more information on the service provided by the Financial Ombudsman Service. If you would prefer to receive a hard copy of the leaflet, then please let us know and we will post this to you.

Yours sincerely

Sian Clay - Marmalade Complaints Team

Marmalade is a trading name of Atlanta Insurance Intemediaries Limited. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority under firm reference number 309599. Company registration number: 756681. Registered address: Embankment West Tower, 101 Cathedral Approach, Salford, M3 7FB

Our consumer leaflet: 'Want to take your complaint further?'

Read the web version of our consumer leaflet.

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OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 17:52

Hi Loudbatperson

your post was reasonable enough, but, as you can see from the response just received from marmalade complaints team, this was NOT what happened here. For reasons best known to themselves, they waited more than 2 years after the end of a short duration contract before trying to contact him for an alleged deby of £29 (which even in this complaint response they have not explained what they think it was for). As you can see from what they say, they missed over 4 months multiple emails from the email account they used saying the message was not delivered and somehow saw fit to then sell this "debt" to a Debt recovery company

It is precisely because this case was so unusual that I wanted to warn other parents via this platform.

-- Forwarded message -----
From: <MarmaladeComplaints@>
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Complaint Response

Complaint Response

Complaint Ref: 2319xxxxx (last 4 digits anonymised)

Dear Mr (name removed)

Thank you for taking the time to raise your concerns on 14 August 2024. I understand you are unhappy that you have received correspondence regarding an outstanding balance from 2022 and that it has been passed to our external debt recovery team.

Having looked into your complaint, I have upheld it, and I am sorry for the trouble this matter has caused.

After your policy was cancelled in 2022, an outstanding balance of £29.26 was generated. We failed to notify you until 19 April 2024. We sent multiple emails during May, June, and July requesting that you contact us to discuss the balance; however, upon reviewing your policy they were all returned as undelivered. Subsequently, with no response received, the balance was forwarded to Credit Recovery Solutions (CRS).

Because of the above, I feel we have not given sufficient notice of the balance, and I will agree we should have made you aware of this sooner. As a way of putting things right, I have arranged for the balance to be recalled from CRS and removed from your account.

I would like to mention that CRS does not leave a marker on your credit file and should not affect your credit history in the future. If you feel there is something I have not addressed or considered within my response, please let me know, and I will be happy to look into matters further for you.

What happens next:
If you are unhappy with our response to your complaint, you can refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge. If you want to refer it, you must do so within six months of the date of this email.
If you refer it to them after six months has passed, the Ombudsman will not have our permission to consider your complaint and so will only be able to do so in very limited circumstances. For example, if the Ombudsman believes that the delay was a result of exceptional circumstances.
The following website ^https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ordering-leaflet/leaflet^ includes more information on the service provided by the Financial Ombudsman Service. If you would prefer to receive a hard copy of the leaflet, then please let us know and we will post this to you.

Yours sincerely

Sian Clay - Marmalade Complaints Team

Marmalade is a trading name of Atlanta Insurance Intemediaries Limited. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority under firm reference number 309599. Company registration number: 756681. Registered address: Embankment West Tower, 101 Cathedral Approach, Salford, M3 7FB

Atlanta Group | UK Insurance Broker Group

Atlanta Group is the UK’s largest personal lines broker, and home to some of its best-known specialist motor, bike and home insurance brands.

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SpanielintheWorks · 15/08/2024 17:59

Oh my eyes...
Please would you stop posting their reply now?

whinginglittlefucker · 15/08/2024 19:15

@whichfan why? The buyer of the policy was OP, not her son. Do you update email addresses with companies you no longer have a relationship,with on the off chance they may make an error and pursue you for money you don't owe?

OxfordMikes · 15/08/2024 19:55

SpanielintheWorks · 15/08/2024 17:59

Oh my eyes...
Please would you stop posting their reply now?

sorry. But it was jarring that so many replies said the same thing , that it was our fault for not updating the contact details, as the fact that they sent no payment request for 26 months after the policy expiry was PRECISELY why I complained to Marmalade, which they have now fully upheld

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RedHelenB · 15/08/2024 20:18

OxfordMikes · 27/07/2024 19:19

my son was a minor when the policy was taken out. and a school kid

Strange that you felt the need to write so many posts about this.

My ds is still a minor and took out his learner and insurance when he passed his test himself.

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 15/08/2024 20:24

Jesus @OxfordMikes - you only have to post the response once and everyone sees it on their "I'm on". You're hugely overreacting the issue at hand and the posts. @whichfan was correct in their posts.

The reason the complaint was upheld is because they didn't see the undelivered notices until they investigated. They'd assume someone wouldn't give a temporary email address as the contact and they would be delivered. They have confirmed there was a charge that wasn't paid. Also, stop mollycoddling. He could have sorted this out himself. Maybe then he wouldn't cancel the policy incorrectly.

OxfordMikes · 19/08/2024 14:55

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 15/08/2024 20:24

Jesus @OxfordMikes - you only have to post the response once and everyone sees it on their "I'm on". You're hugely overreacting the issue at hand and the posts. @whichfan was correct in their posts.

The reason the complaint was upheld is because they didn't see the undelivered notices until they investigated. They'd assume someone wouldn't give a temporary email address as the contact and they would be delivered. They have confirmed there was a charge that wasn't paid. Also, stop mollycoddling. He could have sorted this out himself. Maybe then he wouldn't cancel the policy incorrectly.

zzzzzzzz

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Hoppinggreen · 19/08/2024 15:07

I am glad your son will not have a presumably bright future affected by a debt applied in error and its good he had you to find his corner.
However, you are being pretty unsufferable now so why not just go and reflect on your victory elsewhere with people who can stroke your ego about how great you are in real life because most people here aren't really bothered.

FawnFrenchieMum · 19/08/2024 15:14

Wow, how many times are you going to post your reply! And perhaps waiting until they had investigated might have been wise before slating them all over the internet.

OxfordMikes · 20/08/2024 09:03

FawnFrenchieMum · 19/08/2024 15:14

Wow, how many times are you going to post your reply! And perhaps waiting until they had investigated might have been wise before slating them all over the internet.

that's a bit of an odd piece of advice. They upheld the complaint 100% - I agree you need to be careful not to slate companies unfairly, but this isn't the case with Marmalade. They "discovered" a charge which even in their complaint response they have not explained of less than £30 after the expiry of a full paid up learner policy. Without warning or explanation, two years later they try and contact a young person for 3 months using a dead email address that the young person was under no obligation to update, and then having got no response and having missed the message failure responses, they then sell the £30 debt for between £15-£20 to a debt recovery agency who writes to my son, threatening bailiffs etc if he didn't pay the sum. And you think that my review unfairly portrays Marmalade?

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SoupDragon · 20/08/2024 09:08

So, in less than 3 weeks they investigated and sorted it with no detriment to you or your son...?

FawnFrenchieMum · 20/08/2024 12:38

OxfordMikes · 20/08/2024 09:03

that's a bit of an odd piece of advice. They upheld the complaint 100% - I agree you need to be careful not to slate companies unfairly, but this isn't the case with Marmalade. They "discovered" a charge which even in their complaint response they have not explained of less than £30 after the expiry of a full paid up learner policy. Without warning or explanation, two years later they try and contact a young person for 3 months using a dead email address that the young person was under no obligation to update, and then having got no response and having missed the message failure responses, they then sell the £30 debt for between £15-£20 to a debt recovery agency who writes to my son, threatening bailiffs etc if he didn't pay the sum. And you think that my review unfairly portrays Marmalade?

Is it frustrating - yes without a doubt. Posting a ‘be careful you update your kids update their details at the end of the policy’ warning far enough.

You absolute outrage at a company that have investigated, owned up to making an error and put it right, relatively quickly without needing to go to the ombudsman and leaving no lasting effects on you or your son (which is often the case with insurance complaints) is out of kilter with the situation.

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