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Is this assault?

76 replies

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 16:52

Long story...dps scooter broke down earlier, bloke round corner helped him bring it back on a trailer, dp asked 16 year old ds to help him get it off the trailer but he kept refusing (not great but stroppy teen). Before I knew it the blokes pushed past dp, charged in house, grabbed ds by neck of jumper and pushed him against the corner of bathroom, calling him a disgrace and then told him to p* off. I heard him but didn't see what he did but when he told me, I went out to him and said if he touches my kid again I'll have the police on him. Is this assault?

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CwmYoy · 22/12/2023 18:20

Your son sounds dreadful, OP. What are you going to do about it?

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:22

Hiddenvoice · 22/12/2023 17:44

Definitely assault. Whatever is going on and whatever ds said to your dp is really nothing to do with this other man. He barged his way into your house and assaulted your teenager. Did your dp say anything to this man too? Did he stand up for your son? If not then I’d be annoyed with him too.

Bloke barged past him, into the house, he didn't follow. He heard what bloke said but when I came out having a go he told me to leave it. When he came in, I told him what he did and at first said he wouldn't do something like that but has now said he wants nothing more to do with him.

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StarlightLime · 22/12/2023 18:25

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:19

Why? Because you say? There's 16 year olds ( and younger) running around with knives and using them and even if my ds can be stroppy and unhelpful at least he isn't doing this. Were you never a teenager?🙄

Such a low bar...

Lucytheloose · 22/12/2023 18:25

I'm sorry but what you have there is an undisciplined spoilt brat.

itsgoingtobeabumpyride · 22/12/2023 18:26

I can't believe the responses on here.
A grown man barged into your house and assaulted your son.
Doesn't matter if your son is a stroppy teenager, that's your business, he had no right to put his hands on your son.
I wouldn't threaten to phone the police I'd actually do it.
Your DP stood by and allowed it to happen, I'd be showing him the door too.

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:27

CwmYoy · 22/12/2023 18:20

Your son sounds dreadful, OP. What are you going to do about it?

That's why when my neighbours dog had escaped and was just wandering round near a busy road, he saw it, picked it up and returned it to her. Yes, he's just dreadful, are you on a wind up? Bye bye👋

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CwmYoy · 22/12/2023 18:29

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:27

That's why when my neighbours dog had escaped and was just wandering round near a busy road, he saw it, picked it up and returned it to her. Yes, he's just dreadful, are you on a wind up? Bye bye👋

Carry on pretending his behaviour is normal and you will reap the whirlwind eventually.

StarlightLime · 22/12/2023 18:30

You can totally see where the son's arsiness comes from.

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:30

StarlightLime · 22/12/2023 18:25

Such a low bar...

Whatever🤷🏼

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Allthecatseverywhereallatonce · 22/12/2023 18:32

I think the neighbour was completely out of order. It is not his place to punish your ds. I would have been livid if someone had done that to my 16 year old. Basically you are saying if you don't agree with someone's behaviour you can assault them.

I can't judge your ds based on one incident but 16 is still young. That must have frightened your ds.

pastaandpesto · 22/12/2023 18:33

WTF am I reading? It's like this thread has slipped into a parallel dimension in which stroppy teens arw considered an irredeemable parenting failure of the highest order, and full grow male strangers practically morally obligated to rough them up in their own homes to teach them a lesson.

OP, this is absolutely assault and utterly unjustifiable in any way.

SusanKennedyshouldLTB · 22/12/2023 18:34

dps scooter broke down earlier, bloke round corner helped him bring it back on a trailer, dp asked 16 year old ds to help him get it off the trailer but he kept refusing

it doesnt make any sense. Your child’s scooter broke down and someone you know saw him and brought him and the bike home. Then your son repeatedly refused to get the bike from the trailer. Why? How did your son expect the bike to get off the trailer? Why did the man, who just went out of his way to help your son, react so extremely?

there seems to be a massive chunk of information missing. Why was your son so ungrateful for the favour? Why did the man react so poorly?

alexisccd · 22/12/2023 18:35

yes it was assault

your sons behaviour would be unacceptable to me as a parent and many others it would seem

are you going to do anything about either of these situations?

i'd invest my time in sorting my child out. not ok to be "stubborn" and unhelpful in that kind of situation. i have teens - i can't imagine them or their friends not helping in that scenario. As a parent, you need to get on top of this kind of attitude instead of just simpering and excusing it away

Dacadactyl · 22/12/2023 18:36

Whether it's assault or not, I don't think you'd be doing yourself (or your son) any favours by pursuing this.

This man is your neighbour and your son was unhurt.

You've sent the neighbour away with a flea in his ear, which is fine, but taking it further? Nah, I would leave it. Perhaps now both your son and neighbour will think twice next time.

pastaandpesto · 22/12/2023 18:41

SusanKennedyshouldLTB · 22/12/2023 18:34

dps scooter broke down earlier, bloke round corner helped him bring it back on a trailer, dp asked 16 year old ds to help him get it off the trailer but he kept refusing

it doesnt make any sense. Your child’s scooter broke down and someone you know saw him and brought him and the bike home. Then your son repeatedly refused to get the bike from the trailer. Why? How did your son expect the bike to get off the trailer? Why did the man, who just went out of his way to help your son, react so extremely?

there seems to be a massive chunk of information missing. Why was your son so ungrateful for the favour? Why did the man react so poorly?

The scooter belongs to the DP e.g a moped. Not a kids scooter.

Soontobe60 · 22/12/2023 18:41

If your DP and the other man were able to get the bike on the trailer, why did they need someone else to help them get it off? It doesn’t make sense.

Prayfortheangels · 22/12/2023 18:41

I would absolutely get the police involved here. The neighbour was completely out of line.

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:42

SusanKennedyshouldLTB · 22/12/2023 18:34

dps scooter broke down earlier, bloke round corner helped him bring it back on a trailer, dp asked 16 year old ds to help him get it off the trailer but he kept refusing

it doesnt make any sense. Your child’s scooter broke down and someone you know saw him and brought him and the bike home. Then your son repeatedly refused to get the bike from the trailer. Why? How did your son expect the bike to get off the trailer? Why did the man, who just went out of his way to help your son, react so extremely?

there seems to be a massive chunk of information missing. Why was your son so ungrateful for the favour? Why did the man react so poorly?

Sorry if you misunderstood my op. The scooter was nothing to do with ds. My dp rides it, he called me to pick him up as it had broken down. He called on the bloke to help as they share a trailer, they heaved bike onto the trailer and because it was so heavy, when they got it back here, dp asked ds to help lifting it off. The ironic thing is it comes with a ramp so if that was used (and was eventually) none of this would've happened!🤦

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Soontobe60 · 22/12/2023 18:44

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:42

Sorry if you misunderstood my op. The scooter was nothing to do with ds. My dp rides it, he called me to pick him up as it had broken down. He called on the bloke to help as they share a trailer, they heaved bike onto the trailer and because it was so heavy, when they got it back here, dp asked ds to help lifting it off. The ironic thing is it comes with a ramp so if that was used (and was eventually) none of this would've happened!🤦

But scooters come with wheels! How did they manage to get it ON the trailer?

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:45

Soontobe60 · 22/12/2023 18:44

But scooters come with wheels! How did they manage to get it ON the trailer?

The two of them lifted it but dp said it killed his back.

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Prayfortheangels · 22/12/2023 18:46

Soontobe60 · 22/12/2023 18:44

But scooters come with wheels! How did they manage to get it ON the trailer?

This is not relevant to the fact that an adult assaulted a child.

crew2022 · 22/12/2023 18:47

Neighbour sounds unbalanced to do that.
I would definitely avoid further contact
I do also think your son needs to know however stroppy he is he needs to help in this sort of situation

Bluebirthdaycard · 22/12/2023 18:48

alexisccd · 22/12/2023 18:35

yes it was assault

your sons behaviour would be unacceptable to me as a parent and many others it would seem

are you going to do anything about either of these situations?

i'd invest my time in sorting my child out. not ok to be "stubborn" and unhelpful in that kind of situation. i have teens - i can't imagine them or their friends not helping in that scenario. As a parent, you need to get on top of this kind of attitude instead of just simpering and excusing it away

Thank you for your comment, I'll take it on board.

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pastaandpesto · 22/12/2023 18:48

Is DP your DS's dad? I'm assuming not? How long has he been in DS's life? What is there relationship like in general - is DP generally considerate and patient, with realistic age appropriate expectations of DS's behaviour? Or is he one of these men that expect unquestioning respect from their partner's children, without giving them any respect in return? Because I think this is highly relevant.

pastaandpesto · 22/12/2023 18:51

To all the assault apologists - would you say the same if the child (yes, at 16 he is a child) in question was a girl? If not, why not?

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