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What the hell did I do to deserve such a ungrateful family?

55 replies

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 19:20

I’m writing in the throes of extreme emotion, but I’ve just had enough of everyone - 3 teens (12-17) and inept DH who when he can be bothered to intervene just joins the row and makes it worse.

I feel like a total failure. I just don’t know where I went wrong. I tried to be a balance of fair and disciplined, facilitated whatever I could to give them a decent life and morals and values and they are just so horrible.

It’s my birthday and so far:

  • I arranged a breakfast with some other family last minute because they couldn’t be available for me today
  • I went to the theatre by myself (fine with this, I do it often and was my treat to myself today)
  • they told me on friday they couldn’t meet me for dinner because it is their football team’s first match of the premier league today
  • i said fine, we’ll have take away and I ate it by myself in the kitchen because they had to watch the half time chat

All of this I can ignore, I still had a nice time. But DS12 and DS15 just had a massive shouting match about a bed sheet and both pushed me out of the way so they could have a physical fight (I’m recovering from a broken limb); they were screaming and swearing and punching each other. This holiday one has given the other a black eye. I am at the end of everything. I just don’t know what else to do, I distract, I intervene early to stop it escalating and it still does because they follow each other around goading, then DS17 who considers himself above reproach intervenes and it stirs it further. Usually ends with DS15 walking out for air for 5 min, DS12 crying because he realises he pushed too many times and DS17 treating everyone like the scum under his feet and DH claiming it’s because I was too soft on them. He basically was absent from any parenting until the last couple of years where he now thinks he knows something about it. Not one of them will visit my parents unless I am with them. They live a 15 min walk away, they have always been close, my parents helped to look after them, they holiday with them (home country situation) but in the summer holidays they have spent day in day out mostly at home, occasionally going to the gym or to meet a friends for football and cannot just pass by for an hour. They could do it individually, my dad in particular is so lonely, so one person goes each week, so once every 3 weeks but they would just rather sit about at home.

So I appear to have brought up a narcissist 12 year old who pushes buttons and thinks he is invincible, a 15 year old thug and a 17 year old who thinks we are all beneath him. Not one of them cares about anybody else at all.

After this particular row I left the house for a full 15 mins. No one came after me, no one phoned me/text me, no one has come to see if I am ok since I came back, in fact I pressed the intercom and whoever opened the door simply opened it and went back to their business. I’m not running a bath, crying because I can’t see where it went wrong and how it can be fixed. Every single person says I take another person’s side. I just cannot win and am so, so tired.

I’ve tried talking, together and individually, I’ve tried explaining why that behaviour isn’t acceptable and they wouldn’t behave that way with friends. Im
so scared I’ve bought up 3 abusive boys that I’m sending in to the world.

I have nothing left to give.

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Cloudsandrainnotsunandsand · 13/08/2023 19:22

And tomorrow you have the day off. From them all. No lifts or cash. No meals or laundry done at all. Nothing. Not a smidging of parenting shall you do.

Go out if you can. And switch your phone off..
And happy birthday op...

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 19:25

Thank you. I’m going to the office so will be away and free!

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Popetthetreehugger · 13/08/2023 19:28

Happy birthday OP x can you leave them to it for a few days ? Let your H get on with the parenting he thinks he excels at ? Go and stay at your dads ? I’d definitely be stopping any hand outs washing cooking shopping until they show you the respect you deserve.

1993GoToo · 13/08/2023 19:28

Exactly what @Cloudsandrainnotsunandsand said.

Go on strike.

Stay out for more than 15 mins. Do your own food. And keep to it until you are shown some respect. Especially by your husband. Your sons are following HIS example of how to treat a woman. That is a major reason why they dont care.

So sad about your dad though, that is disgraceful they cba to pop and see him 😢but I am not surprised when taken with the rest of their behaviour

PrinceHaz · 13/08/2023 19:29

I don’t think you should blame yourself in any way for their behaviour.
I think you also need some respite from them. Would it be possible to do something somewhere else for a few days e.g. take your father way?
Longer term, are you happy to stay with their undermining dad?

Hazey19 · 13/08/2023 19:30

Ignore them all and let them sort themselves out for the foreseeable. Go out tomorrow and meet a friend for coffee/lunch and treat yourself. They sound like typical annoying teenage boys who are testing the boundaries and rubbing each other up the wrong way. It sounds exhausting though! Love and strength and happy birthday ❤️

BCBird · 13/08/2023 19:32

Happy birthday OP. This situation is intolerable. Is there anyway yiu can up sticks and stay somewhere else for a while? How about an Airbnb? You should not hsve to shovel this dhit. DP sounds inept. Invest in yiu.

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 19:35

DH is happy to intervene but that is just more shouting and squaring up which isn’t helpful, but his getting involved is a new development.

Tbh they’ve never really seen him treat me one way or another. He goes to work, he comes home, he cooks and does his fair share of cleaning etc.

I might just go and stay with my dad. At least he has a walk in shower for my bad foot.

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EmmaBridgewaterMugs · 13/08/2023 19:37

Do what Sandi Toksvig did. Take yourself to bed with a nice drink and a device/book, then when they knock on the door asking for food, shrug your shoulders and say “I’m alright.” And refuse to come out of your room. Unless you need something from your fridge for yourself, of course.

SpinachSpinachMoreSpinach · 13/08/2023 19:37

I agree with PPs. Drop the rope. Let them get on with it until they, collectively, decide to behave like cooperative family members. Can you stay with your parents for a while?

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 19:37

That sounds perfect actually.

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Hoppinggreen · 13/08/2023 19:42

They have 2 parents and if all their bad behaviour and crappy attitudes are being blamed on one of their parents it shouldn’t be you

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 19:44

I seem to be the only person concerned about what this means for their future if they don’t change their ways.

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Zumma · 13/08/2023 19:50

I'd move out for a month and leave them to it. They don't deserve you.

I'd be reevaluating the relationship too. It's time to put yourself first

Araminta1003 · 13/08/2023 19:54

Happy Birthday OP! Definitely go and stay with your father for at least a week.

FlyingMonkeyNever · 13/08/2023 20:03

Pack your bags and go and stay with your Dad for the night. Stay away for a few days if you can. Their Dad is around and the four of them will be perfectly fine fending for themselves. Send DH a text to let him know you’re safe, put your phone on silent or turn if off.
Read them Riot Act tomorrow or whenever you decide to return home, and let them all shop, prepare their own food and do their own laundry until they all offer you an individual apology. When you do go home, do not clean up after them, regardless of the mess they have made!

If cooking, laundry, cleaning up after themselves and general household chores are not already regular chores for your DS’, ensure they are going forward!

If you can take some last minute annual leave from work, I’d go a step further and book myself a week away abroad next week or a weekend spa at the very least. That’s your Birthday treat to yourself.

DP and our kids already know that I’d be off to a local B&B the same day, if him and the kids ever treated me in a similar fashion.
You need to have serious words with your DH, separately from your Sons.

Happy Birthday 🎉

lechatnoir · 13/08/2023 20:14

Oh OP that sounds shit for you no wonder you feel down. If it's any consolation Mother's Day was similar in my house (& yes they all know it means something to me) and your DH needs a kick up the arse. As do the kids but that's easy said than done - teenagers can be so selfish & entitled however most seem to come out the other side and turn into decent human beings. Get yourself over to this support thread for those with Just a friendly hand hold for any other mums of teens - no judgement just lots of hand holding and empathy
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/teenagers/4646018-just-a-friendly-hand-hold-for-any-other-mums-of-teens

Cloudsandrainnotsunandsand · 13/08/2023 20:16

Until recently I had 4 teens at home. I totally feel your pain op...

diddl · 13/08/2023 20:17

Sounds as if they need to be getting out & about more to get rid or some energy!

Arguing over a sheet-how pathetic is that?

Deliberately pushing out of the way so that they could fight-utterly disgusting.

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 20:25

They do @diddl but they just don’t/won’t or if they do it’s for short spurts.

Now I’ve calmed down in a nice bath, I don’t think I can actually go to my dads, but I am going to enact the rest of the advice.

Chores is something they are good at, with the exception of 12 year old. In fact, it was because DS15 had washed his sheets that the argument kicked off. Beyond ridiculous.

I am very much pulling back this week and going to go to the office everyday and live my best life. On Friday WWIII broke out whilst I was on a call, luckily more of a coffee catch up than a formal meeting but I had to drop off - and DH cannot understand when I have the ability to wfh I don’t do it more often (his job doesn’t allow). The house is stocked and they can all sort themselves out.

I’m not going to take my 4 books and Kindle with a cup of tea to bed.

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diddl · 13/08/2023 20:30

I’m not going to take my 4 books and Kindle with a cup of tea to bed.

Hopefully that should be "now" not "not"!

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 13/08/2023 20:31

Go stay with your dad. Clearly no amount of rational explaining is going to do anything, they need to feel the loss of you. Properly, not for 15 minutes. Go, and stay there. Ungrateful sods.

They will be genuinely sorry in a day or two but they need to truly know you've had enough first, by experiencing you not being there on demand. And your lazy husband will have to step up too.

Happy birthday 💐 take care and I hope you have a nice dad who will look after you x

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 20:32

Tbf whilst my dad is wonderful, I actually will have to take care of him.

it absolutely should be ‘now’.

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TwigTheWonderKid · 13/08/2023 20:32

I think you should definitely put some space between you and give yourself a break. However, I suspect it might be better tell them in advance that you are doing that, and why.

TaigaSno · 13/08/2023 20:33

Individually, they sound like a lot of teenagers. But I can see how together it escalates and pushes you to the limit.

You need/deserve a break! If I was you I would book myself a couple of nights away, stay in a hotel, ideally with a spa.