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What the hell did I do to deserve such a ungrateful family?

55 replies

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 19:20

I’m writing in the throes of extreme emotion, but I’ve just had enough of everyone - 3 teens (12-17) and inept DH who when he can be bothered to intervene just joins the row and makes it worse.

I feel like a total failure. I just don’t know where I went wrong. I tried to be a balance of fair and disciplined, facilitated whatever I could to give them a decent life and morals and values and they are just so horrible.

It’s my birthday and so far:

  • I arranged a breakfast with some other family last minute because they couldn’t be available for me today
  • I went to the theatre by myself (fine with this, I do it often and was my treat to myself today)
  • they told me on friday they couldn’t meet me for dinner because it is their football team’s first match of the premier league today
  • i said fine, we’ll have take away and I ate it by myself in the kitchen because they had to watch the half time chat

All of this I can ignore, I still had a nice time. But DS12 and DS15 just had a massive shouting match about a bed sheet and both pushed me out of the way so they could have a physical fight (I’m recovering from a broken limb); they were screaming and swearing and punching each other. This holiday one has given the other a black eye. I am at the end of everything. I just don’t know what else to do, I distract, I intervene early to stop it escalating and it still does because they follow each other around goading, then DS17 who considers himself above reproach intervenes and it stirs it further. Usually ends with DS15 walking out for air for 5 min, DS12 crying because he realises he pushed too many times and DS17 treating everyone like the scum under his feet and DH claiming it’s because I was too soft on them. He basically was absent from any parenting until the last couple of years where he now thinks he knows something about it. Not one of them will visit my parents unless I am with them. They live a 15 min walk away, they have always been close, my parents helped to look after them, they holiday with them (home country situation) but in the summer holidays they have spent day in day out mostly at home, occasionally going to the gym or to meet a friends for football and cannot just pass by for an hour. They could do it individually, my dad in particular is so lonely, so one person goes each week, so once every 3 weeks but they would just rather sit about at home.

So I appear to have brought up a narcissist 12 year old who pushes buttons and thinks he is invincible, a 15 year old thug and a 17 year old who thinks we are all beneath him. Not one of them cares about anybody else at all.

After this particular row I left the house for a full 15 mins. No one came after me, no one phoned me/text me, no one has come to see if I am ok since I came back, in fact I pressed the intercom and whoever opened the door simply opened it and went back to their business. I’m not running a bath, crying because I can’t see where it went wrong and how it can be fixed. Every single person says I take another person’s side. I just cannot win and am so, so tired.

I’ve tried talking, together and individually, I’ve tried explaining why that behaviour isn’t acceptable and they wouldn’t behave that way with friends. Im
so scared I’ve bought up 3 abusive boys that I’m sending in to the world.

I have nothing left to give.

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itsgettingweird · 13/08/2023 20:36

Happy birthday Flowers

Another saying go and stay at your dads.

Currently they don't need to rectify their behaviour because you're there to referee.

Remove yourself. Let them see what happens when someone isn't there to help them resolve conflict, when they get too physical and someone gets really hurt - and it won't be you.

When they need to find their own stuff, sort their own lifts out etc.

When you do go back then continue to do nothing for them. Go back with a chores list.

Make sure they each have 2 jobs each a day. Things that will effect them if not done. Eg putting in a wash, dishwasher or washing up. Make sure you do your own washing only if they don't do it. Wash your own plates and hide for personal use of needs be.

Also make sure there isn't cupboards full of biscuits etc so they can eat crap instead of actually getting up and making stuff.

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 20:36

I am going to work from the office and send them all a message tomorrow (they’ll still be in bed when I leave) telling them what I think and the consequences e.g. not cooking, washing my own things only and they will have to negotiate the washing machine or cooperate and if they fight or break anything in fighting irrespective of blame at this point all of them will be paying for it.

DH is a separate issue and for better or worse the time when I should have left has passed, but that’s another story and I am content and at peace with that.

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tootiredtospeak · 13/08/2023 20:39

I would pack my bags and go stay with your Dad show them how serious you are. If they wont listen to you acknowledge your do anything for you you may as well help a lo Ely old man who did do stuff for you.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 13/08/2023 20:44

@StColumbofNavron

Ah my mate from 50 Books! This is well shit. I'm really sorry. How dare they all - this isn't your fault

Einevinefine · 13/08/2023 20:47

Happy Birthday 🥳

But another one advocating staying w your dad and staying away from the frontline homestead for now. A few good days away should give them time to reflect on how they acted and even if not that it gives you time to re-evaluate how you deal with them going forward. I know it’s not ideal staying w your dad if he needs care but he does at least sound appreciative of you.
Sending you best wishes x

junebirthdaygirl · 13/08/2023 21:23

Things won't always be like this. It's that stage. When l was growing up ..in my 60s now my sisters and l would chase each other fighting over clothes pulling stuff off each other. My poor dm. We grew up reared good families and took care of my ailing mum on a rota for 5 years without one cross word between us. I'm sure at the time she thought we would be hoodlums.
Try to let it go. Start afresh tomorrow. They will grow up fine. Teenage years are the most difficult. It's good to have friends to talk to and have your own life. They will respect you more if you can have a life outside home.

cassandre · 13/08/2023 21:25

Unmumsnetty hugs and much sympathy from another 50 Booker @StColumbofNavron ! Your plan for tomorrow sounds excellent.

I can identify with your situation a lot, as my two sons (12 and 18) can be hideously ungrateful sometimes. I feel like I've brought them up in a way that isn't really in keeping with my strong feminist principles 😥. They take parental labour very much for granted, and getting them to do any chores around the house is like pulling teeth. In fact, just as I was typing this message, DS1 walked into DS2's room and bopped him on the head for no reason.

I'm hoping that some of the conflict and negative behaviour is down to teenager hormones and testosterone, and that they will emerge on the other side one day to be lovely adult human beings, but part of me despairs.

So not really any helpful advice here, but I do feel your pain! And happy birthday! 🎂🍾💐

diddl · 13/08/2023 21:27

It's not just about the household stuff though is it?

It sounds as if none of them could be bothered to do anything at all for her bday & they physically pushed her so that they could fight!

There's just no care or respect there!

I'm guessing that they follow their father's lead?

Yesabsolutely · 13/08/2023 21:38

OP first of all Happy Birthday 🎂. Can you take a couple of days AL ASAP and book yourself in to a nice hotel for a couple of nights and just leave them to it !
Just say that you are going to have 48 hrs of me time and tell them they can hopefully reflect on their poor disrespectful behaviour towards you . Say that you hope to come home to a tidy ,clean tranquil home !

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 21:42

He has certainly never pushed me, or otherwise laid a hand on me. He is largely benign rather than an influence I would say.

DS12 came by my room and knocked, asked if he could come in and then showed me the cake they had bought. I politely told him to enjoy it and went back to my book.

I was actually not remotely bothered about the birthday until the fighting.

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StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 21:43

50 book friends, thanking you kindly.

And, of course, everyone else.

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StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 21:47

p.s. they did actually get me a card (the boys themselves) and a £100 Amazon voucher, which as a 50 booker will be amazing.

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Holly60 · 13/08/2023 22:09

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 19:44

I seem to be the only person concerned about what this means for their future if they don’t change their ways.

OP, kindly, one of them is 12. He is still a little boy. A very irritating little boy (they all are) but nothing to get worked up about.

The other is 15 and all 15 year olds are mardy little oiks a lot of the time.

The last one is 17 and I've never met a 17 year old who doesn't think they literally know everything.

AND you've got three of them, AND it's the summer holidays.

None of this is a disaster. In what is supposed to be the most supportive and reassuring way- it's totally normal.

I bet they individually all have times when they are gorgeous - just obviously not all at the same time as that would be too easy for you 😂.

They are not finished projects yet - they'll become human again in their 20s don't worry 😉

Holly60 · 13/08/2023 22:11

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 21:42

He has certainly never pushed me, or otherwise laid a hand on me. He is largely benign rather than an influence I would say.

DS12 came by my room and knocked, asked if he could come in and then showed me the cake they had bought. I politely told him to enjoy it and went back to my book.

I was actually not remotely bothered about the birthday until the fighting.

Oh that's a bit sad. It was an olive branch.

Go and appreciate the cake- and then tell them after that you love it when they show care and feel upset when they are thoughtless.

End the day on a high

OnlineExxxcitement · 13/08/2023 22:22

I would tell them you are sad and disappointed - would that help?
Or a 1 fight and wifi goes for 24 hrs rule?!
You sound tired and that is understandable x

EarringsandLipstick · 13/08/2023 22:28

Great post @Holly60

So true!

EarringsandLipstick · 13/08/2023 22:32

OP, I had a similar day (not my birthday) with my 3 DC (16, 14, 12 - DD, 2 DS). They do a huge amount of sports, which takes up all my free time. I'm under pressure with work stress + divorce proceedings & the summer holidays & their sheer thoughtlessness is driving me nuts.

The physical play actual fighting is driving me insane.

I went fully nuts.

Problem is I'm well aware that they really don't take this on board, and basically block it out.

Your DC sound ok overall. Just pain-in-the-ass teens.

Please try to have a kind word before your birthday is over, and in a calmer moment, have a chat with them. (This is advice I'm giving to myself too, by the way!)

StColumbofNavron · 13/08/2023 22:36

I did just call DS12 in for a hug and he aplogiswd.

15 year old came for a hug, but insisted it’s not his fault and stormed out, so now I’m an emotional mess again.

I am also due on my period, whilst their behaviour does get me down and annoy me, I am usually far more rational and don’t cry at every little thing.

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EarringsandLipstick · 13/08/2023 22:39

Ah OP 💐 it sounds like it's time to draw a line under it tonight.

Tomorrow is another day!

I'm a single parent but in your case I think DH has to help navigate the house rules with your teens.

OwlBabiesAreCute · 13/08/2023 22:40

Saw this on FB the other day. Saved it for the days I need to remember it here...

What the hell did I do to deserve such a ungrateful family?
GodspeedJune · 13/08/2023 22:48

Happy Birthday OP 🎂

I hope tomorrow is a much brighter day.

RomanMum · 13/08/2023 22:51

Thinking of you St. from another 50b - some great advice on the thread. Draw a line under today, it's late. At least tomorrow you'll be able to think clearer being outside of the home environment. 💐 for your day.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 13/08/2023 22:56

I mean this in a positive way - none of that sounds unusual, or particularly bad, or suggests that you have failed in any way.

Teenagers are frequently ungrateful and annoying. Most of them aren't thoughtful enough to visit their grandparents for a chat without being dragged. Most wouldn't rush out in concern to fuss about their mother if she flounces out in a mood.

Maybe you (or if course your husband) could have established a bit more control so they would at least pretend to have some grace. But during the summer it probably would all go to hell anyway, so don't feel bad - just please yourself more and don't be nice if you don't feel like it.

nonamebetty2023 · 13/08/2023 22:56

I'm so sorry you're going through this, op!

Just reading this made me all angry, emotional and tired. Can't imagine how you feel. Sending you lots of hugs ❤️

If I was you, I'd pack up my shit and go live with my dad for a few weeks. At least until they're back to school. I wouldn't bother getting in touch with them either. Go out with your dad and your friends. You deserve to relax.

Such a shame that there are so many incompetent fathers out there. They're nothing more than live-in sperm donors a lot of them.
You're one strong woman ❤️

Lushers · 13/08/2023 23:15

OP...
I also have 3 sons (12.16 and 19) so very similar ages to yours and I feel your pain and frustration.. they can be soooo thoughtless, entitled and self centred a lot ( most) of the time and it gets soul destroying... I get that so much...
sometimes as other posters have said, just take yourself off somewhere. In your room. And tell them your off duty.. and if they continue to behave the way they are then you are not bothering with them..

talk to them when you are calmer and more clear headed about how their behaviour makes you feel. I do think they (teenagers) are inherently selfish and entitled and find it hard to see our side of the story.. but if you talk to them calmly and firmly about how you are feeling due to their behaviour then I think it does go in... gradually!
Xxx
Good luck xxx

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