What would be a fair punishment.

[ThePM]

I only have daughters, so perhaps would look for a more severe punishment than parents of sons.

What punishment should be put in place for the boys who push in the toilet doors at school to film the girls. Or who make videos of themselves being lascivious about classmates (e.g. pretending to masturbate whilst saying her name) and the like. All the videos have been distributed to friends and/or classmates. I just see them getting away with it.

I don’t believe for one second that this is boys immaturity and having a laugh, I think it’s pure domination and predation, and should be treated accordingly. Do parents of sons ever point out “your friend sounds like a sexual predator”

I would like that -this was always a criminal matter; that there was a legal ban on the perpetrators having access to smartphones; a ban on using the internet other than under the supervision of a parent/teacher.

What response from the school and police would have been satisfactory, OP?

OP, I am sorry your daughter has suffered this, it is appalling, and no, it is not common or normal.

I am sorry you have not got the response it should have got too, that is awful

Personally I would complain higher up, about the responses you have got, both from police and school - and if it isn't taken seriously, I would move your daughter.

Best wishes x

This sounds awful, and I'm so sorry it has happened and hasn't been dealt with appropriately.

But I think you're making a massive leap to assume that this is an everyday occurrence and many/most teenage boys are amoral predators.

I have a teenage son and teenage daughters. They attend/ed a pretty crappy comprehensive school with a lot of problems. I have never heard of anything like this happening there.

Like most parents of teenage boys, I am trying to raise my son to be a respectful man and human. His dad and I have talked with him separately and with his sisters about respect, equality, enthusiastic consent etc etc. He has occasionally raised issues which have come up (e.g., being uncomfortable with some of the language his friends were using), and we have tried to support him and reiterate our values on those occasions. I don't think the fact I've never asked him if he/his friends are upskirting or sending offensive messages reflects badly on me.

As a parent of teenage girls, I absolutely want them to feel safe and secure.

I don't think it's at all helpful to pit it as a (parents of) teenage boys vs (parents of) teenage girls issue though. It does nobody any favours.

I know how to talk to my ds thanks. Weirdly enough many many parents can can bring up decent young men.

You read need to stop lecturing and patronising.