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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

What would you do? Attempt 2 with all names removed!!

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Emmacarrie86 · 29/03/2023 00:12

I don’t know what I actually want to get out of this…probably just to vent and ask for advice!!

My 15 year old son has been getting bullied lately and it has become quite serious (like police level serious). Last week a bunch of boys all took it in turns to pee on a ball of toilet roll until it was saturated and then threw it at my son and he was drenched in their urine. He obviously walked out of school after that to come home for a Shower then went off to his afternoon college class. He told his guidance teacher the next day what had happened and he said he would deal with it etc.

Yesterday I had a phone call from my son during class time asking if he could come home as something else a bit more serious had happened. Apparently he went into the exact same school toilets as the last week and was in a stall having a pee when he noticed a hand holding a mobile phone appear under the stall wall and he could see that it was recording. He was standing up with his pants down at his feet taking a pee and his face and willy were both obviously noticeable because of the angle of the video. My son then tried moving away and the boys hand holding the phone followed him around the stall. He then told the boy to stop it and go away which point he did.

The first thing I advised him to do was go straight to the office to report the incident to the campus policeman as it was a tad more serious than the previous weeks problem then if the school were ok he could come home afterwards. So he went off and told the campus policeman and then came home.

later that day the school called me to let me know they were taking my DS complaint seriously and looking into it. They had found a suspect and we’re gonna talk to him and his parents and decide what to do next.

Today we sent DS into school but told him we were at the other end of the phone if needed and he m he’d to last half the day then came home this afternoon after finding out from his friend that at least 3 people maybe more in his class had seen the video and they were all making dick jokes using DS’s name. I think reading that got too much for him as he called me up begging me to let him come home.

My mum is raging and ready to storm down to the actual police station right now but we decided to give the school one more day and see what they come up with. We won’t let them brush it under the carpet like they will probably try though. If they try that we will go to the police ourselves. I spent most of yesterday in tears 😭 why are some children so horrible ? My DS is very meek and quiet and peaceful. More of a geek than anything. The only thing that gets him fired up is his Xbox games. He wouldn’t harm a fly.

How would you all feel and why would be your actions if this happened to your children?

What would you do? Attempt 2 with all names removed!!
What would you do? Attempt 2 with all names removed!!
OP posts:
booboo82 · 29/03/2023 09:15

Police immediately don't bother waiting for the school ! And get your son out of there and back home ASAP and keep him home !

chanceofpear · 29/03/2023 09:51

Your poor son. Police and school move. He shouldn't have to put up with this.

Emmacarrie86 · 29/03/2023 10:12

He is off school as of now. He has his exams coming up after Easter holidays but like you’re all saying his mental and physical health is more important than school work. The school he goes to has a different exam schedule to you all, after Easter he has 1 week if school then exams start after that. I have contacted school and told them to send him work to do at home. My mum and I are going to the police about it today.

OP posts:
Emmacarrie86 · 29/03/2023 10:26

There is only 1 high school/academy in our area so no where for him to move and my middle DS has autism/adhd and the primary school he goes to has been super supportive. A move would be 1) unaffordable for us and 2) really bad for my middle child’s mental health, he wouldn’t cope with a school move.

My eldest DS is only a few weeks from his exams and we will look into enrolling him in college or home schooling next year if the boy who instigated this isn’t expelled etc.

OP posts:
KnottyKnitting · 29/03/2023 10:26

Your poor boy...
Huge safeguarding issue- the DSL lead at the school would be totally incompetent not to have reported this to the police themselves as sharing images such as this is child pornography and the perpetrator should be convicted of such and be put on the sex offenders register.

This is a very serious offence. Hopefully the police will take it seriously. ... good luck

Animallover2325 · 29/03/2023 11:23

I’d say it’s more than a tad more serious. It’s abuse of one of the highest levels and you should go to the police straight away. Don’t let him go through this. I’d also be seeing about a different college/school for him

bemorelemmy · 29/03/2023 12:15

StrawHatOnTheParcelShelf · 29/03/2023 01:34

I'm actually quite shocked you didn't go to the police immediately, I see where he gets the meekness from. You need to find your inner rage and fight for him!

this is not helpful- there's always one
you sound quite a bully yourself

Op, you're doing an amazing job and there's some great advice on here. As a parent you've been trying to balance the seriousness of the situation with not wanting to make it worse for your son. I totally get it and it's the school that should have taken the lead here.
Sending positivity to you and your son- you will get through this.

bemorelemmy · 29/03/2023 12:17

meant to say, the school should have taken the lead with regard to informing police

itstheyearzero · 29/03/2023 12:19

Your poor son. I bl00dy hate bullies, we have been dealing with similar for the last year, so just want to say I know how you feel. Stay strong and go straight to the Police. This is sexual abuse/intimidation/whatever, it's just awful.

Nopinnogin · 29/03/2023 12:19

I have seen this before-They try to get the teens to feel shame and humiliation. The trick is to laugh it off. Everyone has genitals and someone filming his makes THEM the pervert, not him. Get him to turn it around and make the other person feel shame.

Tell him to stand tall and be proud. He has done nothing wrong.

steppemum · 29/03/2023 12:33

Please go to the police.
This is illegal on several levels, and th epolice will take is seriously.

You need to find your mother tiger and fight for your son.

These bullies need to be thrown out of college.

Contact college, tell them you are taking it to the police.
Contact police and say you want to press charges and that you do not want it left to collge to investigate.

As he is 15, posting a video of his penis means they are distributing illegal underage images. The police will take it seriously.
These bullies are about to land in very hot water.

steppemum · 29/03/2023 12:35

whoops sorry I see you are going to the police.
Well done

buckeejit · 29/03/2023 12:44

Good luck OP. It's disgusting that this has happened to your poor ds. Hope you get good support from the police. Write everything down & make sure the school does its utmost & let's you know what they're going to do to stop anything like this happening again

mamnotmum · 29/03/2023 12:45

Go to the police and have them done for distributing child pornography. Have them put on a sex offenders register and let them deal with the consequences of their disgusting actions!

They need expelling from the school as well - get to the school and tell them as much!

shard5 · 29/03/2023 12:45

Sharing the images was against the law and the safeguarding lead should have contacted the police directly already.
Id write a very formal letter of complaint to the school and to Ofsted if this was any one of my children.
They are failing your son

Minikievs · 29/03/2023 13:07

Your poor DS. I have no advice that hasn't already been given / you aren't already doing, but I just wanted to send my best wishes. I have a DS at secondary school and reading this has given me a knot in my stomach at the thought. It sounds like you're being a great support to your son Flowers

MrsRinaDecker · 29/03/2023 14:58

I hope things go well with the police OP. I’d also be pushing the school to authorise your son to go straight on study leave and only to return for the exams. I’d hope the school would expel the perpetrators, but I know how much policy here is about avoiding permanent exclusion so wouldn’t hold my breath.
Sending both you and him love. I have a lad a similar age who has also experienced bullying (we actually ended up opting for home ed as things weren’t going to improve in school) so I know how tough it is for them.

blahblahblahandblahsomemore · 29/03/2023 17:23

Oh lord, that's awful and I would 100% go to the police. Your poor boy.

Lindy2 · 29/03/2023 17:31

I am glad you are going to the Police.

I would inform the head teacher that you have reported the sexual assault that took place on your son, while in the care of the school. Although he wasn't touched it is still a sexual assault in my opinion and the child who filmed it has committed a crime test should have them put on the sex offenders register.

Does the school come under Ofsted? If it does I'd also be reporting a serious sexual safeguarding incident directly to them.

SwimmingAgainstTheTides · 29/03/2023 17:31

You have to go in strong OP, all guns blazing, this is shocking and totally unacceptable.
Ring the police and tell them what has been happening.
I would take him out of that school, they sound absolutely vile and go higher to put a serious complaint in.
I really feel for your poor son, and l hope you get much support.

Toddyforlottie · 29/03/2023 17:42

It's not just sexual harassment, it's creation of child pornography by the person that's made the recording. They could be in serious trouble (and should be) anyone who has passed it on has distributed child pornography.
I'm so sorry your son is being targeted by these awful people

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 29/03/2023 17:51

I’m so sorry for your ds and you. What utter shits.

it is distributing child porn (abuse), I hope the police take this seriously. The school should have done a group (as in suspect and friends) explaining the seriousness of sending the video on.

MrsMoastyToasty · 29/03/2023 18:00

I would be telling the school that they shouldn't just be "talking " to the perpetrator or their parents. They should be expelling them.
A carefully worded email (so you have evidence and a timeline) reporting the bullying and your intention to escalate to Ofsted , the media and police might not go amiss.

Farmageddon · 29/03/2023 18:11

Oh god that is awful, your poor boy. Bullying is so much worse these days because of the added element of it being recorded, and shared around increasing the humiliation. I really hope school enact a ban on mobile phones soon.
WTF is wrong with these kids. They never seem to think of how they would feel if it was them being targeted.

You should go to the police, if only to show the school you will not roll over on this and they need to take it seriously. I hope the perpetrator gets the shock of his life when he realises he's been making and distributing child pornography. And maybe his parents will know what their son is really like.

MrsRinaDecker · 29/03/2023 18:12

Unfortunately for OP, Scottish schools don’t come under ofsted, nor are there governors to escalate things to. Hopefully the police take things seriously. She can also speak to the local authority education department if she isn’t satisfied with the response from the school, although in my experience they’re pretty toothless.

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