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18 year old asked to pay rent, became aggressive

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Vonka · 01/03/2023 19:59

Hi
Just hoping to pick your brains. Dd is 18 and left college at 16 and started work. Went back to college at 17 and 4 months ago she left again. Working on and off no aims in life it seems. Does not want interference in her life, rude disrespectful for years . Don't do chores. I have another 16 year old dd and in Sixth Form, no problems with her, she is a joy.

My dh and I asked my 18 year old to pay towards her keep last night. She became aggressive and shouted and said " I will not pay anything! "
She locked her door . Didn't go to work today.
I want to ask her to move out. She swears at me. Dh says its because I allow her. Last time she did to him it ended badly, police involved. That was 17 months ago. They don't get along. We both feel she will never progress unless she is on her own but how at 18 and she refuses to contribute. We both work full time.

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Vonka · 06/03/2023 07:42

Hi
I did tell her about houseshare but she likes her own space she says. Beggars can't be choosers. On the other hand she would have been welcome here if 1.she stays in a job or some type of education and 2. If she was doing chores and we don't come from work finding her here doing nothing 3. If she wasn't so rude. The situation is unhealthy and frankly I want to focus on my soon to be 17 years old who is doing her A levels.
Thanks for all contributing

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19lottie82 · 20/06/2023 14:00

She will move out in June, saving hard for a deposit. We live in Central London

@Vonka how did this work out OP?

Spirallingdownwards · 20/06/2023 14:03

JazbayGrapes · 05/03/2023 14:01

Are you going to pay tax if she pays you rent?

Unlikely she would be liable under the rent a room policy. So enough with being goady.

wishmyhousetidy · 20/06/2023 22:15

Ponderingwindow · 05/03/2023 16:57

If a teenager isn’t going to be in education, then it should be clear that is a choice that means they are entering the life of a rent paying, self-supporting adult. It’s one or the other. You aren’t doing your child any favors by pretending that not obtaining any kind of credentials and sitting around not even getting good work experience is going to enable them to have a happy life going forward.

at least near me, there are no shortage of minimum wage jobs available. Most of them are in food service or cleaning. It is hard work, but it is work. In a month she could be paying 30% of her salary in rent, covering her own phone and her own incidentals. If she doesn’t enjoy that setup, she currently has the safety net of parents who can support her while she gets an education or vocational training so she can get a job she enjoys more. If she doesn’t take advantage of that safety net now, it won’t exist in a few years when she is working that same minimum wage job that she hates but needs every hour she can get just to keep a roof over her head.

this is what people don’t seem to get when they say, oh it’s so mean to make your kids pay rent. It’s so mean to make them go get a full-time job. Right now, the parents are there to help. Right now, the teen or young adult has options. I think it’s mean to let them languish and get to the point where they no longer have options because they are trapped by the poor choices they made at 18.

Well said- all good points

determinedtomakethiswork · 20/06/2023 22:48

JazbayGrapes · 05/03/2023 14:01

Are you going to pay tax if she pays you rent?

Oh for God's sake! Are you just trying to cause trouble? You surely know that you don't have to pay tax if someone contributes towards bills.

Talia99 · 20/06/2023 23:11

determinedtomakethiswork · 20/06/2023 22:48

Oh for God's sake! Are you just trying to cause trouble? You surely know that you don't have to pay tax if someone contributes towards bills.

Up to the limit of £7,500 per year, there’s no tax to pay on rent paid by a lodger either.

SummerDuck · 21/06/2023 13:21

It sounds very much like there is a favourite daughter in your house and it is not your DD1.

MyStarBoy · 21/06/2023 13:26

Technically she's an adult. How will she ever mature and grow-up (and then leave home) if she's never taught to take any responsibility and keep getting off scot-free.

She'll find the real world is a lot tougher than living at mums and dads, so she needs a reality check and to start learning. The sooner the better.

You can't baby them until they're 30 unless you want an entitled child on your hands still living at home because they haven't got a clue about adult responsibilities.

Niesie · 21/06/2023 22:12

Hi
Thanks for those asking about my daughter. I had to create a new username. I was Vonka.

DD said she is moving out end of June but I've seen not much evidence of any savings.
Her behaviour is not that bad but it's because I've just given up asking her to do chores or asking her anything to do. She only paid one month rent and nothing again for the last 3 months.
Not taking drugs but no education( good GCSEs) but now a social media influencer as she says. My guess is that she is lazy and refuse to get a proper job. She never has money, priorities all wrong she wants a drivers licence and buy a car plus she doesn't want houseshare wants own big place but no effort. Went to Spain with friends but never money to pay her bit. Always clothes in the washing machine as if it runs on water only.
She will be 19 later this year. To the reader who says she is not my favourite it's true cause she doesn't deserve it. I'm tired me and her dad work 24/7, I've always done more for her than anyone else. I'm 55 and hope to retire in peace at 60
What's gonna happen to her? Her 17 year old sister works part-time after Sixth Form and already saved £2000 .
She is going end of the month but my guess is she will refuse because she has it nice here. Do I call the police or lock the door.
I booked her contraception 3 months ago, she asked me to arrange as I'm in health care thank goodness cos she is a lot with the boyfriend who is a barista ( not barrister haha😂) sorry I've got laugh but won't be funny on 30 June 😬🤨
I'll keep u updated.

Vonka · 22/06/2023 11:52

I'm back on my old username Vonka

I forgot to mention what happened. End March she paid £150. Then she refused to pay April, left and took herself to the local council made herself homeless ( Westminster). They put her up in a hotel fof few days but then into a home with others
After 4 days she called to say " I'm coming home mum, it's too dirty here , " I promise to pay rent"
Ok stupid me said " OK come back." She didn't even last one week 😪
She came back and end April, May nothing no contribution. So at the beginning of June I told her she has to go 30 June if nothing. We don't argue, we have good conversations but I don't feel her life is heading the right way. I advise she don't follow my advice anyway she can go. Made up my mind now.

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