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Discipline

44 replies

Mancmum1 · 13/10/2022 16:40

Hi, please could you share views on a situation I find myself in where my DH and I are poles apart in our views.
My usually well behaved DD has started college this year and 6 weeks in was doing well and has passed all her initial assessments. However we have had a call from the college today saying she has been involved in an incident. Another pupil took DD’s phone which she’d left on the table in front of her, and made a call to someone DD used to know and left an inappropriate message. DD apparently grabbed the phone back when she heard what was being said, but a voicemail had been left. The recipients parents, quite rightly weren’t happy and contacted college.
Whilst the person making the call has taken full responsibility and told college DD wasn’t part of it, college view is she condoned it as it was on her phone.

Anyway, I’ve had a discussion with DD talking about what serious consequences a seemingly innocent initial action can have and how she needs to be more thoughtful in what she does. I’ve also asked her to write to the principal apologising for her part and advising what she has learnt from the situation.
DD is mortified this has happened, we’ve had tears and I believe she has learnt a lesson.
DH believes in what I class as punishment but he thinks is discipline, and has banned her from all activities she has planned over the coming weekends - one in particular that she has had booked in for a long time and saved up herself to do and will still have to pay for.

He thinks I’m too soft and don’t discipline and I think he is too harsh and that instead of learning what she can from the situation she will only remember how mean we are as parents taking this opportunity away.

Im sure there is a compromise somewhere here but DH has dug his heels in and won’t budge.

Any thoughts on what the best way to discipline is?

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mdh2020 · 13/10/2022 16:44

From what you have said I am not sure what she is supposed to have done wrong or why she is being punished.

BertieBotts · 13/10/2022 16:46

She's at college so she's 16+?

I wouldn't do anything Confused

Echobelly · 13/10/2022 16:48

I don't see why she should be punished at all. You say person who made the call has admitted it's on them, so not like there's question that your DD lied about phone being used without her permission. If that's the case then please don't punish her and don't make her apologise for things that aren't her fault. That's not a good lesson to learn from life.

Mancmum1 · 13/10/2022 16:49

@mdh2020 DH believes she knew what the phone would be used for, DD insists not. College feel the fact she allowed her phone to be used and had the person (someone who DD does not get on with and avoids) in her contacts indicates she condoned the behaviour of the person who left the message.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/10/2022 16:52

Sounds like your Dd is being blamed by college and shat on by her father.

Sje must be very unhappy.

redskyhaze · 13/10/2022 16:52

Umm, what exactly did she do wrong? Leave her phone on the table in front of her?

redskyhaze · 13/10/2022 16:55

Mancmum1 · 13/10/2022 16:49

@mdh2020 DH believes she knew what the phone would be used for, DD insists not. College feel the fact she allowed her phone to be used and had the person (someone who DD does not get on with and avoids) in her contacts indicates she condoned the behaviour of the person who left the message.

Sorry but this is absolutely bonkers.

Your daughter didn't do anything at all, unless I'm completely missing something here.

How on earth is it anyone's business who she has in her contacts? You should be able to leave your phone on a table without expecting it to be grabbed and used by someone else.

dreamadreamy · 13/10/2022 16:56

I agree, I'm not sure why she is being punished if you believe her side of the story?!

Youcanlaugh · 13/10/2022 16:57

That’s crazy… she hasn’t done anything wrong? I would not have punished my kids at all for this. I’m not surprised she is so upset…

Allthegoodusernamesareused · 13/10/2022 16:57

Whether she was complicit or not the matter has been dealt with by the college. Anything beyond that is unfair.

Exasperatednow · 13/10/2022 16:59

Your dh is being unreasonable.

She will resent you as parents and thar won't end well.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 13/10/2022 16:59

I can't see that she has done anything wrong!!

Flamingnorahs · 13/10/2022 17:02

Your husband is being unreasonable imo.

Kellie45 · 13/10/2022 17:03

I think your approach is fine. Obviously a point needs to be made as she was careless allowing the other girl to use her phone. As she is contrite and embarrassed by the whole thing the letter of apology appears the best solution as it makes the point and is not over-harsh. Your DH appears to be over-reacting but you could compromise by telling DD that is what will happen if she lets it happen again, so keep her phone to herself!

Mancmum1 · 13/10/2022 17:04

I do agree. DH thinks she shouldn’t be letting someone take her phone and that she should have taken it back before they had chance to scroll through contacts and make a call.
I’m at a loss what to do as DH feels I should support him and that I never do - he is heavy handed with punishments so I don’t agree, but once he’s dished them out I follow them through or we don’t present a united front. DD thinks I should stick up for her, which I try to but can’t change his mind. I’ve tried to discuss my approach but just get shouted down at and told I don’t discipline,
NB DH and DD do have a good relationship and enjoy time together aside from situations like this. He is a good Dad

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Aquamarine1029 · 13/10/2022 17:07

This entire situation is absurd, and your daughter didn't do anything wrong. The only lesson she needs to learn is to secure her phone from now on.

Campervangirl · 13/10/2022 17:10

Sooo glad you're not my parents, you and your H are bonkers.
Someone took your dds phone and made an inappropriate call, said person admits it and takes full responsibility but you and H feel the need to punish your dd?
You both should be ashamed of yourselves, she's your child, you should have her back.
Plus your H is going to ground her for the weekend, you're seriously going to ground a college aged DC?
You'll be back posting in MN in a couple of years asking why your adult dd is NC with you.
Christ, some people shouldn't be parents.

GrazingSheep · 13/10/2022 17:10

She needs to have a pin on her phone

Searchingforsun · 13/10/2022 17:20

Your DD isn’t going to forget this insanely unfair treatment and your inability to stand up for her.

Don't be shocked if your relationship with her once she is an independent adult is extremely limited.

In life you need people who will put you first even in difficult circumstances, fight your corner and that you can rely on and if it’s not your parents as a teenager then who is it?

summergone · 13/10/2022 17:20

She shouldn't be being punished at all , with teenagers you pick your battles very carefully in order to maintain a relationship in which they can confide in you . Do not make this one of those battles .

Mancmum1 · 13/10/2022 17:21

@Campervangirl unnecessarily harsh words but thank you for your view.

@GrazingSheep she does have a pin, but had put the phone down without locking it and they grabbed it straight away

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worriedatthistime · 13/10/2022 17:22

Im not sure she did anything wrong other than maybe not locking her phone so no one can use it, if the person really did grab it
Surely an apology and being made aware to keep phone locked and in bag is enough

worriedatthistime · 13/10/2022 17:25

Read your update and yes maybe it is possible she was conplicit but of other person is saying she wasn't and she is saying she wasn't and appears to be upset by what happened and won't allow her phone to be used again and is accepting college punishment that seems enough really

worriedatthistime · 13/10/2022 17:28

Oh and apology maybe , but the banning several weekends no that seems excessive
But warning that could happen if anything like it happens again
Have college also implemented a punishment ?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/10/2022 17:31

I do t even know what’s she’s done wrong tbh.

You don’t need a passcode or facial recognition if you put it down for a sec and someone picks it up.

passcode kicks in after about 30 seconds or so.