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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

At breaking point with teen boy

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KLC23 · 27/09/2022 10:27

Have a 13 year old son who is due to turn 14 in two weeks time. I can honestly say we have always had a happy home, apart from the usual hiccups that most families have. I have never really had any issues with my son right from a baby up until he turned 13.
it all began when he started senior school. He had a really promising year in year 7, positives were really out weighing the negatives which was brilliant. He then went into year 8 when the problems began - it started with just defiance, where he would refuse to do as he was asked by teaching staff. Then it escalated to really bad behaviour such as setting off fire alarms so the whole school would have to be evacuated (over 900 pupils). He would swear at senior staff and call them vulgar names. He eventually got excluded 3 times then finally permanently expelled.

He then had to go to panel, where a school would be chosen based on his behavioural needs. This was a lengthy process that took just over 3 months. This gave my son a lot of free time on his hands and he was going missing regularly. I had to report him missing I believe over 13 times where he would just not return home when asked to/told to. I would often be out in my car up until 2/3am looking for him in a state of worry and panic. He would also run out of the door in the middle of the night which would then mean I am up and out again looking for him.

I work in the cancer unit at our local hospital, so am often going to work and facing long shifts without sleep, or very little. Which was proving difficult. I then got a dead lock fitted on a Sunday morning as a way to safeguard him and keep him in at night, I was told by a social worker this was false imprisonment and that I couldn’t lock the door. 🤦‍♀️
He then got into another main stream school and I felt so relieved. I sat with my son and did the whole “this is a brand new start for you” and “a great opportunity for you to get a good education and make a new friendship group”. I was really hopeful that he would take this opportunity with both hands and really try and excel.

He had an OK start, not great, but he was getting up and going in, in full uniform which was promising. But then things started to slip back to how they were. He was refusing to go in full stop, or he would wear clothes under uniform for when he felt he’d had enough for the day and would just walk out.
the school and I sat together and made a plan to help my son, as we felt it may have been to much as he had been out of full education for over 3 months. We tweaked his time table and allowed him to do half days then staggered it to full days to ease him in and not overwhelm him.

well I can only describe this as we gave him
an inch, and he took a mile. He would only turn up to things he wanted to, he would quite often leave schooL site go and get high then return when he felt like it but wouldn’t engage in lessons he would just abuse staff and students and disrupt. I am quite often called to pick him up or help go and manage him. Work are understanding but they also have a service to run so their patience is wearing rather thin.

I have cried out to social services for help. I have explained that I am a single parent that is way out of me depth and I need serious help.

I am yet to receive that help as of yet. And we are now at a point where things have broken down so badly in the family home. My son will completely disregard the rules and boundaries I set within the home, he will not go to bed when I ask, he will not get up and go to school when he asked/supposed to, if I say he is grounded I get laughed at and told to fuck off, he continues to go out and Returns home when he’s finished doing what ever it is he does. He then strolls in high as a kite and will eat everything in sight, and this happens 5 nights out of 7 so can be costly at the moment!!! He will often wear dirty shoes around the house that he knows I’ve just cleaned and will provoke reactions for example he will go and rub his muddy trainer over the sofa purposely to spark a reaction. I have had drinks thrown over me, I have had food thrown around the house, I have been spat at. He is now bigger than me and is very aggressive, my internal doors the majority of them have holes in, his bedroom walls have holes in, I have just replaced his bedroom door and it’s now broken again. He will stand over my whilst Im sitting and will attempt to intimidate me quite often. He steals from the family home and I now have to take my hand bag everywhere or leave certain things in my car over night. I cannot go to bed when I feel like it as he will persistently dominate the environment by making loud noises, wondering around shouting chants very late at night, flickering light switches on and off continuously. I get spoken to like absolutely dirt, for example yesterday my son was being soooo rude and disrespectful calling me a cunt/slag etc then asked me to drive him somewhere I said absolutely not. I am not prepared to do a favour for you when you are treating me the way you are, you can walk. I was called fucking lazy. I get kicked to get up and make his breakfast etc. Sometimes I feel it’s worse than being in an abusive relationship because I’d somewhat have hope of escaping one day, here I do not.

he has over heard me sobbing on the phone to my mum saying I can’t do it anymore, to which he responded “why don’t you Kill yourself then? “

it goes way beyond just “bad behaviour” he is quite honestly the most rude, disrespectful, nasty, spiteful person I have ever had to encounter.

social services have done nothing but penalise me as a parent which just makes me cross because I have raised this boy single handed since he was one, we have never had social services involved except up until 14 months ago when I cried out for help from them. They said I work long days (I do 30 hours over 3 days in the hospital) and it was no wonder he was angry towards me etc. I am his only provider, I need to got to work. But I was made to feel shambolic for this. Not what I expected when I asked for help.

there was supposed to be a meeting held today which has been cancelled last minute. I feel this was my only life line, I do not know where to turn anymore. And I am scared somebody is going to be hurt within the family home.he is on the brink of being permanently expelled again and I am just at breaking point. I want to run away

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Turquoisesea · 27/09/2022 10:42

I’m so so sorry you are going through this, I haven’t got any advice but this sounds so incredibly awful for you. You say he’s getting high, where is he getting his drugs from? Surely social services should see this is a safeguarding issue if he has access to drugs as he might be involved with county lines and they should try and support you instead of blaming you. If he is violent towards you I would call the police as hard as that is because you if you have other DC they heed safeguarding too.

KLC23 · 27/09/2022 10:55

Thankyou.
He is getting high regularly, more often than not. I have no idea where he is getting this from as currently I give him no money (for obvious reasons) yet he is still managing to get out of his face each evening. I think he is in the company of other teenagers that do this. I have absolutely no control over it as when I ground him he does not listen and will do what he wants regardless of what I have said as his parent.

He has not physically hit me yet, but he will be very aggressive within the home break things, punch doors and walls, I’ve been spat at drinks thrown over me etc but I do fear he is going to attack me one day. I have rang the police when he is kicking off and they ask me if a crime has been committed, when I say no not reslly he’s just being very aggressive and volatile and im scared they will tell me is a children’s services matter and that I need to contact them. Reluctantly I do this, knowing they’re not going to put any active support in place immediately and they just say have you rang the police? I go into despair and say yes. I have but they have told me to ring you, and i feel I’m just being pushed from pillar to post and in the mean time I am getting absolutely no support.

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eggsandbaconeveryday · 27/09/2022 11:07

I really do feel for you . Next time you call the police tell them that he is abusing you on a daily basis and that you fear for your safety. Also, raise a safeguarding with SS regarding the drugs and subsequent abuse towards you. Tell them that you need support and can not continue to live in fear and that you may have to considering evicting him for your own safety. If this were a partner or husband doing this they would soon intervene. It is not acceptable for you to live like this.

KLC23 · 27/09/2022 11:16

Thank you for advice.
SS are well aware he is using drugs. They are aware of all of my concerns, they just don’t seem to care to be quite honest.
I have attempted to throw my son out on one occasion, and I was told that I must let him back in or I will be prosecuted for neglect. Shortly after this in desperation I packed myself a bag, left the home and rang SS telling them I had no intention of returning because I cannot live in fear or with the constant abuse anymore they rang me back a few hours later and informed me that after seeking advice from the manager I had until 5pm to return home otherwise they would have to contact the local police, inform them and that I would be wanted for abandonment. They have got me over a barrel, and all the time my mental health and welfare is on a downward spiral

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Helgadaley · 27/09/2022 11:39

I am sorry you are going through this, it sounds horrendous. But I also think that at 13 years old, the situation may be salvageable.
What kind of help do you want from social services? What help can they realistically give you ? Do you want them to remove him from your care? (I'm not sure how SS work).
If I were you, then I would stop doing things for your son, until he can behave in a respectful manner, both at home and at school.
No cooking, no washing, no money, absolutely nothing. If he becomes violent because of restrictions, that's the time to call the police.
Perhaps someone else will have better ideas, but this is how I would react.

Missmyoldusername · 27/09/2022 11:40

Can you ask for him to be taken into care temporarily, in order to get some respite?

There is one problem here and its his drug use. Pure and simple. Weed destroys any caring emotions in a teenage brain, he doesn't care about you, school, his future or anything, whilst he is smoking weed. He needs 3 weeks straight off it to allow his brain to produce and feel normal emotions again, otherwise everything you do will be in vain.

Have you asked the GP for help with rehab etc? There are places that will take teens.

KLC23 · 27/09/2022 12:29

when I reached out to SS I was going in completely blind, I didn’t have a plan of what I expected them to do, nor did I know what I wanted them to do. All I knew was I’m a single parent that’s way out of my depth, and I’m drowning in it all. I have never been in this situation before, therefore I had no idea what help was available to me - if any.
but I am beginning to feel the situation has been left so so long it’ll be now very difficult to rectify it. My son has told me and I quote “I now know how easy it is to do what the fuck I like, so I do it” . As his parent I have confiscated all luxury items such as PlayStation 5 and his iPhone to which he tells me “he doesn’t care” and that “he will get worse until I return them” and true to his word, that’s exactly what he’s done. I, however, am no idiot and have obviously not returned his luxury items and will not, until I feel he has earnt them back. Further more when he comes home high on weed I tell him he is grounded for the next week. But he just defies that and goes out anyway, unless I literally wrestle at the door to keep him in but 1 He towers over me now and I do not have the strength nor the energy after a whole 14 months of it, and 2 I am told I cannot physically keep him a prisoner and lock him in as this is against his human rights therefore I feel I fight a losing battle every day. I am now at a a point where I feel he needs to go into temporary care to shock him, but again they see a caring mother a clean home (although everything is trashed and broken) and they will not act.

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Turquoisesea · 27/09/2022 12:58

Is his dad on the scene or have you got a relative he could go and stay with out of the area temporarily? I do think as a previous poster suggested that the drugs will be making everything 100 times harder and will be affecting his behaviour. Will he sit down and talk to you at all and explain why he is behaving like this? Is he ever reasonable or has moments when he can articulate what’s going on? Have you got any family members that he respects and will talk to? If he literally is just doing what he wants when he wants then maybe he does need to go into short term foster care so you can have a break. I can hear your frustration and having tried to get help previously for a family member with a significant mental health problem, I know how hard it is to actually get any help.

AperolWhore · 27/09/2022 13:14

Pack his bags and drive him to the local council office, you tell them you have tried but you are done and walk out.

You will not get help from SS as you keep backing down. You are in an impossible situation and you need to take drastic action.

Go home, change the locks and await the panicked calls from SS. Explain the situation again and do not back down until they agree to help you.

Sending you big hugs 💕

Elderflower2016 · 27/09/2022 18:05

This sounds so hard for you. Does he have spare phones hidden in his room? How does he communicate with others who he is meeting if he has no phone? Coukd you report him as being at risk of child exploitation to the police? There’s an online form I believe. If he has no money he must be being given drugs and therefore must be doing “work” to get the drugs?

WhoWants2Know · 27/09/2022 18:40

I wonder if Women's Aid might be able to advise. You're certainly being abused, even if it's by your son as opposed to a partner.

NooNooHead1981 · 27/09/2022 18:52

I'm so sorry OP, this sounds horrible. I've only had experience of younger children as mine are still under 5 and a tween, but my parents were having to put up with a lot of similar behaviour from my late brother years ago when he was a teenager. I remember him shouting at them, swearing, slamming doors, breaking a glass door, going out at all hours with friends from school to take drugs, and dealing with a lot of verbal abuse over many years. The police were called once and my dad told me that the policeman sat my brother down and gave him a really stern talking to. I think it was a deterrent for a while but he did not change his behaviour long term unfortunately. Ultimately it was very difficult for my parents and I have utmost sympathy for you as I know how hard and stressful it was/is. God knows how they and you cope(d) with it, but I know that you don't have to be abused in such a horrible way. It's really unacceptable to fe frightened in your own home.

Sorry that I don't have any real advice apart from sympathy and understanding, but I hope someone will help you with good advice on here soon. Sending v big hugs and love xxx

NooNooHead1981 · 27/09/2022 18:56

Your post actually made me cry a bit as it brought back memories of my brother (he passed away from bowel cancer) and it reminded me of what he put my own parents through. They and you certainly don't deserve it.

CatchersAndDreams · 27/09/2022 18:58

Honestly I would tell him if he continues to behave like that then I'm signing section 20 and he's going into care. I literally wouldn't be treated like tbat in my own home.

belge2 · 27/09/2022 19:14

Oh that sounds horrific and you have my deepest sympathy. I have lived a little of what you are living- son stealing from us to buy weed, refusing to go to school (eventually dropped out aged 17), smashing doors etc and vile behaviour at home. It was awful. He was treated for depression and managed to get a full time job in a shop. This was a massive turning point. He is now 20 and has come out the other side and most of the time is a lovely human being. But I So remember those days of utter despair. I am thinking of you and hoping things improve for you both .

StateOfTheUterus · 27/09/2022 19:44

This sounds incredibly difficult for you.
I think you have to focus on keeping yourself as safe as possible mentally and physically.
Get a lock for your bedroom door so he can’t come in easily to hurt you when you’re asleep.
I think I’d give him a cheap phone and say you will always pick him up if he is in trouble but from here on you won’t be looking for him if he goes missing. Then prioritise your own sleep.
Just sounds awful for you.

GreenManalishi · 27/09/2022 19:56

This is a heartbreaking nightmare, I'm so sorry. This isn't like abuse, it is absolute abuse and you need to deal with it as such.

here is a link to a support group for parents in your situation which might point you in the right direction to access the help that you need. Please, do seek out some help with this, don't give up.

witchesbubblebath · 27/09/2022 20:27

No advice, but this sounds incredibly, incredibly tough. My thoughts are with you.

witchesbubblebath · 27/09/2022 20:32

Actually I do have some advice. * *
Call* *woman's aid. They will/should listen. He is being abusive and if they can't help you, they could hopefully direct you somewhere more fitting.
It is definitely worth trying.

THisbackwithavengeance · 27/09/2022 20:43

AperolWhore · 27/09/2022 13:14

Pack his bags and drive him to the local council office, you tell them you have tried but you are done and walk out.

You will not get help from SS as you keep backing down. You are in an impossible situation and you need to take drastic action.

Go home, change the locks and await the panicked calls from SS. Explain the situation again and do not back down until they agree to help you.

Sending you big hugs 💕

This.

Social Services know that you are a good, honest, hard working and law abiding citizen and will back down when they threaten you with child neglect and abandonment. Then they don't have to take any action which is a win for them.

Call their bluff. If they threaten to charge you, say fine. Tell them your mental health cannot take it and that you believe yourself to be in danger and you cannot safeguard your DC anymore hence the drug taking, running away, violence etc.

CatchersAndDreams · 27/09/2022 20:43

If you tell SS you want to sign section 20 for him to go into care I can almost guarantee they will pull out the stops to support you to keep him at home.

jellymaker · 27/09/2022 20:49

I know someone who used this charity. She said it was helpful to talk through things with someone. Sorry may not be much use but it sounds like you need to speak to someone in RL. www.careforthefamily.org.uk/support-for-you/family-life/careline/

PepperSprayFirstApologiseLater1 · 27/09/2022 20:56

If you want him gone you need to request a section 20. What an absolutely nightmare for you. He sounds absolutely awful, I can't imagine.

PepperSprayFirstApologiseLater1 · 27/09/2022 20:57

@CatchersAndDreams you're absolutely right. Social care shite at preventing families getting to this point.

xippo · 27/09/2022 21:02

what a living hell op, some good advice above.

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