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This seems like way too much too soon and at the wrong time - how usual is it and what to do?

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OnAWing · 25/11/2020 13:13

NC. This is very long for background - please don't read if that bothers you. The last paragraph relates to the subject question.

I have a DS16, my first DC to reach this stage. Right from when he was born, our relationship was very close and loving. He is a bright boy and always had lots of interests and hobbies. He was so kind, caring, sensitive, sensible, moral, sociable and fun. He was lovely with the other DC. I could always trust him to do the right thing or to be completely honest if he had made any mistakes. His prospects looking forward for university, work and life looked good. He mentioned his possible hope for a serious relationship and marriage one day alongside his family life with us, but that was once he had settled into a career, after his mid 20s at the earliest. In a nutshell, his early to mid childhood were happy on the whole and without any major problems.

And then the teenage years hit. It seems like everything has changed. The last couple of years have been really tough - both for him and, as a result, for me as his mum. The boy I describe above seems to have largely gone. I see glimpses of him, which gives me hope but is upsetting at the same time. There is a lot of anger, mood swings, lies and that part is awful to have in my own home. I can no longer trust him. In the last year, to my knowledge, he has made at least 3 quite major and deeply worrying and disappointing mistakes. I thought that he had been brought up better than this. I can't talk to anyone about it because I feel embarrassed and ashamed, both by his behaviour - this new version of my child - and by the loss of our previously very good relationship and family life. Some people must know, however and have drifted away. He has also disclosed some concerns around his mental health, which can only be contributing to his behaviour and which, underneath, make him incredibly vulnerable. I love him dearly and I am still here standing by him, trying my best to help and guide him - to parent him - in these far more challenging times. We have had some crisis situations. A lot of the time he seems to blame me, hate me, and to have lost the love, liking, care, gratitude and respect he once had for me. I am devastated, for him, the family and for me. My only hope was that with help and time, particularly getting through the teenage stage which is not being kind, he would be ok and we would be ok. I have to admit that, at the moment, I am not ok.

We had agreed that, given recent events, the best way forward was for us to concentrate on his education - he has just started A' Levels at school after not meeting his potential in most of his GCSEs - and on trying to improve how he is feeling and behaving and our relationship. He had said himself that a girlfriend was not a good idea just yet, with all this going on, and that he intended to wait.

But into the mix, throw a girlfriend. Having only just met her at the start of term, it is now full on. They see each other every day at school in most lessons, spend free periods together, then with calls, texts, facetime and on social media outside school, plus exchanging letters and gifts. They have only met outside school and in a relatively public place twice, to my knowledge, because of logistics and the virus. Although he makes her and her family sound nice, and they may well be, in reality we actually know very little about them after such a short time and as they are not local. He has not met her parents, just seen one in passing.

I wish he had waited a little while until things were hopefully better, but it is not really him having a girlfriend that worries me. It is how obsessed he is - they are? - and straight away. From the start he has described her as 'perfect', he is highly protective of anything to do with her, and he is already rushing to confide his innermost upset, feelings and secrets to her. I have counselled caution, but he sees her as the answer to all his problems, an escape from them, and by far the most positive thing in his life. He is highly vulnerable, as previously mentioned, and I really fear for him if she breaches his confidences or the relationship breaks down. I feel like my family life and business is no longer my own or private and I worry about gossip. I also worry about the virus because we have a vulnerable family member and have been very careful since March, but she and her extended family are mixing. For her part, it seems she is also completely smitten and is 'lovebombing' him with words, hugs and gifts. She has told him he would be welcome at Christmas and her parents would be happy for him to stay over whenever he wants. She has already had a fairly long term relationship but this is his first. They are still at school. I don't think he is in the best place emotionally to enter into a relationship, let alone an intense and serious one. I don't know her, haven't met her or her family, he is my priority of course but I am concerned for her too.

What made me finally start this thread about my overall concerns, is the realisation that they are already incredibly serious and have decided on a future together - marriage, children, a home. This is not immediate but by 21/22, 'if we don't elope first'. I remember really intense emotions for people at this age, but never to that extent. How usual is this, at 16 and after less than 3 months together? What, if anything, can or should I do? Kind, experienced opinions very welcome. Thank you for reading.

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PucePanther · 25/11/2020 13:17

Teens aren’t used to dealing with these strong emotions and aren’t as cautious as adults. They also have no understanding of the realities of things like marriage and children. Understandably they just jump in with both feet. Give it some time, they’ll gradually become more mature and sensible.

rookiemere · 25/11/2020 13:22

He is 16, you can't stop him having a girlfriend. I'd take their grand plans with a pinch of salt - don't whatever you do comment on them or he'll feel forced to do them to show how serious he is.

My DS is 14 and I guess it won't be long until he's 16. it's easy to read this and say oh you need to step back and let him make his own mistakes, but I'll probably not be as sanguine when I get to that stage. I think welcoming the GF into the household is probably the way to go, that way you'll be able to keep more of an eye on your DS and know what's going on.

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 25/11/2020 13:23

I don’t think you can or should do anything than show a polite interest in her and leave them to it. It sounds fairly normal behaviour for a hormonal teenager.

calllaaalllaaammma · 25/11/2020 14:11

My son had a serious relationship during 6th form and so did many of his friends.
Most of the intense sixth form couples broke up when they went to Uni, as they would be too far apart.
My son stayed a lot at his girlfriend's parents' house, I don't think it would be usual to know her parents previously.
I think it's a normal stage he's going through.

Ohalrightthen · 25/11/2020 14:15

The relationship sounds very normal for teens, it's true love!! I was also going to marry my first boyfriend. Thank god i didn't.

The more worrying thing is his mental health. Did you get him any support?

lljkk · 25/11/2020 14:17

it's not that unusual. When I was 21yo my boyfriend's little brother (then 16) was saying same types of things about his girlfriend. Boyfriend confessed he felt same about his first girlfriend only a few yrs earlier.

You smile, say "it's nice you have dreams, please please please plan to prevent any (baby-making) accidents", listen whenever he wants to talk, and let the situation play out naturally.

haircutsRus · 25/11/2020 14:25

He is growing up, so of course he is no longer the boy you thought he was. He is a person in his own right and won't necessarily grow into the person you expected and hoped (or imagined) he would.

You seem to be disappointed in him. Don't let it show.

SummerHouse · 25/11/2020 14:34

Just support him and be there for him. And breathe. Totally understand your concerns.

Frenchfancy · 25/11/2020 14:36

He sounds normal for a teen. You come over as a little jealous, which is also normal.

Whatever you do don't try to put him off, it will likely chase him away. Invite her for dinner, welcome her into your family life. Talk to him about safe sex.

It might last, I have friends who have been together ther since they were 16, it might not. But this is his life to lead not yours.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 25/11/2020 14:41

Embarrassingly I remember being like that at the same age. I cringe now. The object of my affections who was just as smitten is now living in Australia and married to a man Grin
Btw I didnt have a baby til i was 38 !

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 25/11/2020 14:44

And OP I'm not going to say anything about how you should handle it because my little boy is only 6 and my blood runs cold when I think of what is to come!
Any chance the gf could be a good influence on him with regards to studying etc ? Worth getting to know her family ?

Wbeezer · 25/11/2020 14:46

Well DH and I fell madly in love at 16, that was 36 years ago, its not always a disaster. Our relationship spurred us on with education and life goals. We didn't do marriage and babies until a more convential age though.

doctorhamster · 25/11/2020 14:51

Do you or remember your first love op and how intense it was? What you're describing is a pretty normal teenage relationship.

doctorhamster · 25/11/2020 14:51

*do you not

HollowTalk · 25/11/2020 14:53

The only thing you can do is welcome his girlfriend, be lovely to her and never ever criticise her or anything she does. He will tell her immediately and you will become the enemy.

I'd encourage him to keep up with hobbies. He's likely to keep attending school if she's there - that's one good thing. Hopefully he'll want to do well, knowing she will hear about any grades etc. Talk about university as though it's going to happen to both of them - their teachers will be making sure they work.

First love hits so hard; all you can be is understanding and supportive if you want a good relationship with him.

Joswis · 25/11/2020 15:00

Yes, none of us can count on our children becoming the person that we hope they will.

Lovemusic33 · 25/11/2020 15:01

Sounds quite normal 16 year old behaviour, sadly he is no longer your little boy and is growing up, yes he will make some mistakes and that how he will learn. I know it can be painful to watch but if you intervene you will push him away. All you can do is gently guide him and be there for him when things go wrong (when his girlfriend dumps him).

God, I can remember being 16, it was probably the most exciting but also the worst time of my life, I made loads of mistakes, got my heart broken and didn’t do as well at school as I should.

Ginfordinner · 25/11/2020 15:03

Apart from his mental health worries he sounds like a normal 16 year old. You need to take a step back.

DD had a serious boyfriend through years 11, 12 and 13. She achieved AAA at A level in spite of them messaging each other all the time.

What gossip are you worried about? Is your son drinking and taking drugs?

Krook · 25/11/2020 15:04

I feel for you OP. Do you mean mental health crises? Has he had help with this?

PaperTowels · 25/11/2020 15:05

You seem to have a lot of anxiety around him and your expectations of him.

Perhaps he feels your disappointment in him?

Either way, as others have said this is just first love and all you can do is sit it out. Try not to "manage" it for him, it's time for you to be stepping back.

steppemum · 25/11/2020 15:06

my ds is 17 and has had this intense type of relationship. They rarely last. but don't tell him that.

be careful not to suggest it is just 'puppy love' on the contrary, acknowledge that his feelings are very strong, that it is normal to have very strong feelings for a girlfriend at this age, because your emotions are very strong as a teen. You could drop in a comment like - it is amazing but also a bit scary and overwhelming to feel so strongly. That gives him an opening if he needs one. At some point you could comment that however genuine and strong the feelings, it is hard to know if they will last.

I would have a frank conversation with him about not getting her pregnant, be pragmatic, he has to stay in education or training until age 18, so he has no way of paying for his child, and there is plenty of time for family, let's enjoy life a bit first.

Don't lecture or show disapproval, as that will drive him away, be pragmatic and concentrate on things you can , eg school work etc.

It is really hard. being there in the background, and letting him know you will always be there is great

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 25/11/2020 15:10

Have you forgotten what it was like to be his age?
You cannot control what he does and who he sees!

MostDisputesDieAndNoOneShoots · 25/11/2020 15:21

Totally normal. Everyone I knew- including me- had an intense sixth form relationship. Only actually know one couple who made it into adulthood and now that we are all approaching 40 are actually married with kids. As others have commented, these things break up at uni.

YellowandGreenToBeSeen · 25/11/2020 15:23

OP, this is meant with kindness but your post is exhausting. I felt suffocated reading it & if I were 16, it would have me out door and round my girl/boyfriends house in an instant.

His behaviour, the emotions and the intensity are very normal for his age. Let him go.

gingerbreadfox · 25/11/2020 15:31

I remember being in a really intense relationship at 16. At that age it's first love and you think it's the best thing in the world.
By the time we both turned 18, could get into pubs and clubs, we realised we both wanted to be single and experience the new exciting world of clubbing, meeting new people etc.
I think just leave them to it (although make sure they are being safe) and then wait until it fizzes out, which it definitely will

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