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This seems like way too much too soon and at the wrong time - how usual is it and what to do?

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OnAWing · 25/11/2020 13:13

NC. This is very long for background - please don't read if that bothers you. The last paragraph relates to the subject question.

I have a DS16, my first DC to reach this stage. Right from when he was born, our relationship was very close and loving. He is a bright boy and always had lots of interests and hobbies. He was so kind, caring, sensitive, sensible, moral, sociable and fun. He was lovely with the other DC. I could always trust him to do the right thing or to be completely honest if he had made any mistakes. His prospects looking forward for university, work and life looked good. He mentioned his possible hope for a serious relationship and marriage one day alongside his family life with us, but that was once he had settled into a career, after his mid 20s at the earliest. In a nutshell, his early to mid childhood were happy on the whole and without any major problems.

And then the teenage years hit. It seems like everything has changed. The last couple of years have been really tough - both for him and, as a result, for me as his mum. The boy I describe above seems to have largely gone. I see glimpses of him, which gives me hope but is upsetting at the same time. There is a lot of anger, mood swings, lies and that part is awful to have in my own home. I can no longer trust him. In the last year, to my knowledge, he has made at least 3 quite major and deeply worrying and disappointing mistakes. I thought that he had been brought up better than this. I can't talk to anyone about it because I feel embarrassed and ashamed, both by his behaviour - this new version of my child - and by the loss of our previously very good relationship and family life. Some people must know, however and have drifted away. He has also disclosed some concerns around his mental health, which can only be contributing to his behaviour and which, underneath, make him incredibly vulnerable. I love him dearly and I am still here standing by him, trying my best to help and guide him - to parent him - in these far more challenging times. We have had some crisis situations. A lot of the time he seems to blame me, hate me, and to have lost the love, liking, care, gratitude and respect he once had for me. I am devastated, for him, the family and for me. My only hope was that with help and time, particularly getting through the teenage stage which is not being kind, he would be ok and we would be ok. I have to admit that, at the moment, I am not ok.

We had agreed that, given recent events, the best way forward was for us to concentrate on his education - he has just started A' Levels at school after not meeting his potential in most of his GCSEs - and on trying to improve how he is feeling and behaving and our relationship. He had said himself that a girlfriend was not a good idea just yet, with all this going on, and that he intended to wait.

But into the mix, throw a girlfriend. Having only just met her at the start of term, it is now full on. They see each other every day at school in most lessons, spend free periods together, then with calls, texts, facetime and on social media outside school, plus exchanging letters and gifts. They have only met outside school and in a relatively public place twice, to my knowledge, because of logistics and the virus. Although he makes her and her family sound nice, and they may well be, in reality we actually know very little about them after such a short time and as they are not local. He has not met her parents, just seen one in passing.

I wish he had waited a little while until things were hopefully better, but it is not really him having a girlfriend that worries me. It is how obsessed he is - they are? - and straight away. From the start he has described her as 'perfect', he is highly protective of anything to do with her, and he is already rushing to confide his innermost upset, feelings and secrets to her. I have counselled caution, but he sees her as the answer to all his problems, an escape from them, and by far the most positive thing in his life. He is highly vulnerable, as previously mentioned, and I really fear for him if she breaches his confidences or the relationship breaks down. I feel like my family life and business is no longer my own or private and I worry about gossip. I also worry about the virus because we have a vulnerable family member and have been very careful since March, but she and her extended family are mixing. For her part, it seems she is also completely smitten and is 'lovebombing' him with words, hugs and gifts. She has told him he would be welcome at Christmas and her parents would be happy for him to stay over whenever he wants. She has already had a fairly long term relationship but this is his first. They are still at school. I don't think he is in the best place emotionally to enter into a relationship, let alone an intense and serious one. I don't know her, haven't met her or her family, he is my priority of course but I am concerned for her too.

What made me finally start this thread about my overall concerns, is the realisation that they are already incredibly serious and have decided on a future together - marriage, children, a home. This is not immediate but by 21/22, 'if we don't elope first'. I remember really intense emotions for people at this age, but never to that extent. How usual is this, at 16 and after less than 3 months together? What, if anything, can or should I do? Kind, experienced opinions very welcome. Thank you for reading.

OP posts:
cptartapp · 25/11/2020 15:47

You sound a bit stifling. And I say that as the mum of two teenage boys.
Is he an only child?

Mustbe3ormorecharacters · 25/11/2020 16:11

When I was 16 I thought I was in love with a girl because of her cleavage.

Ohalrightthen · 25/11/2020 16:17

@Mustbe3ormorecharacters

When I was 16 I thought I was in love with a girl because of her cleavage.
I feel like that about cleavage all the time and I'm 28.
LilaButterfly · 25/11/2020 16:33

From my experience these strong feelings are normal in teenagers. Every boyfriend i had was always "the one". And we would do everything together every day. So i wouldnt worry too much about that.
Maybe having a girlfriend will help with the other issues? I would wait a bit, and see how it goes. Theres not much you can do anyways. If you speak against them, he will only get defensive and turn from you. Since the girlfriend hasnt caused any problems, just give her a chance? Maybe invite her over more and get to know her a bit?

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 25/11/2020 17:17

You're suffocating him! Let him be for goodness sake. The more you push the more he will push back. He is foof struck most likely! My DNephew was the same, he got bored, moved on ,much to my sisters relief Grin

Ginfordinner · 25/11/2020 17:37

What did he do that was so embarrassing?

DD was with her boyfriend for nearly 4 years. I only met his parents on a handful of occasions and didn't really get to know them. At 16 you don't tend to get to know your child's friends' parents.

Are there some cultural differences at play here?

Andi2020 · 25/11/2020 18:06

My dd 17 thinks she is going to marry every boy she goes out with they last approx 6 months and shes onto the next and can't understand why she ever went out with the previous one Smile

corythatwas · 26/11/2020 10:39

Agree with pretty well everybody else on this thread: you haven't actually told us anything that doesn't seem entirely normal for his age. The need for privacy, the intensity of emotions, the mood swings, the turning away from his parents (and often mother in particular)- these are all normal parts of growing up.

The lies could be more problematic, but it does depend a bit on how much you pry into his private life and thoughts and how criticised he feels. Does he feel the need to protect himself or does he feel that he can confide as much or as little about himself as he needs to and trust you with whatever he does choose to tell?

What matters here is how you react. If you convey the feeling that some irretrievable damage has been done to your relationship, then he might start believing that's true and act accordingly. If on the other hand, you trivialise his feelings, then he will start to resent you. But if you can stay calm, kind, open to confidences but not forcing them, polite to or about his girlfriend but not asking to know too much- then chances are your relationship will survive to grow into an adult mother-son relationship. Which is also a very lovely thing, just different from a child-parent relationship.

I don't see anything wrong in him confiding in his girlfriend instead of in you. My son (now 20) told me much later that he had been going through a rough time with flashbacks to something bad that had happened and that he had confided in his best friend who had given him very good advice. Yes, there was a small part of me that felt hurt that a 15yo should have been filling that role for my son when he didn't trust him mum to do it. But it was cancelled out by the gratitude that someone had filled that role, that he had found someone who could give him the help he needed, and a small voice saying just perhaps at that particular time, with this particular problem, somebody his own age was the right person.

PaperTowels · 26/11/2020 19:58

I guess what you're going through is what we all, as parents, have to go through - watching our children pull away from us, and them finding others to be important to them, when we're used to being the important ones.

Craftycorvid · 26/11/2020 20:12

It must be very tough to feel you are losing a sweet and happy child - especially if the person emerging seems angry and troubled. He does sound pretty normal from your description. You’re very honest about feeling disappointed in him and embarrassed by his behaviour - those are your feelings but please try not to let them show. He’ll be feeling bad enough about himself at times and will be sensitive to anything that feels like rejection. His feelings about a first serious relationship are also normal; remember he has no yardstick for this, everything is new to him. Actually, intense feelings for someone can sideswipe us at any age, but it’s often most acute in our teens.

I was a very depressed 16-year-old who had no friends to speak of and who spent all my time at home. My DM would always claim she had ‘no trouble with me’ at that age Confused. My point is: it’s probably healthier for him to act out a bit now.

OnAWing · 27/11/2020 11:09

Thank you to everyone who has replied. Special thanks to those pps who have taken the time and trouble to read and think about my OP, to share their own experiences as a teenager or parent, even to give me some much-needed laughs - and the reminder to breathe was very welcome too. All food for thought and I will be back.

OP posts:
Lilactimes · 27/11/2020 15:47

Without knowing what he’s actually done - then it does sound like fairly normal behaviour and staying calm and stepping back is good advice.
Re the relationship - I think it’s v normal to be very intense at that age. Literally can’t live without someone! Perhaps a nice gesture would be to ensure he knows your house is welcoming to her too - invite her for meals- or let them eat hangout / stay over at your house so you get to know her. It may fizzle but it will be trickier if they feel family are against them.
When I was 14, 15 and 16 my then boyfriend of 2 years pretty much lived at my house (apart from upstairs and staying over!!!) Even Xmas day! my parents were very fond of him and trusted him and were sad when it ended.
Good luck.

ilovebagpuss · 28/11/2020 17:36

I met my DH at 16 we both went away to different uni’s but Carrie don seeing each other we didn’t talk about marriage and babies but looking back we were serious about staying together.
Be 30 years next year it’s not always the wrong thing but if it is you can only be there to support.
I would not in a million years have taken advice at that age I was in love and that was that.
Don’t be against it just be there for them keep all doors open that’s the most important thing.

ilovebagpuss · 28/11/2020 17:37

Oh dear excuse the spelling mistakes

Oblomov20 · 28/11/2020 17:45

All sounds very normal. My Ds1 is older and hasn't had a serious relationship yet, but many of his friends have. And to dismiss such relationships, is incredibly insulting. Because as most of us know, most of them don't last. But you don't believe that when you are in it, do you? Because it feels very real.

mocktail · 28/11/2020 17:51

First love can be so intense. I'm actually glad looking back that I'd already moved out of home when I had my boyfriend as it must be hard work for parents sometimes!

I don't think the girlfriend is the problem and in fact you never know, she could be good for him when he's obviously going through a lot of changes emotionally.

FestiveChristmasLights · 28/11/2020 17:57

I agree it’s fairly normal. I think all you can do is being positive and kind about her, her family and their future plans but otherwise try to take (a very difficult, I know) step or two back.

FredtheFerret · 28/11/2020 18:03

I have a 16 year old. I've also taught teens for 30 odd years. This is utterly normal.

Make polite, kind, interested noises and leave them to it.

SavoyCabbage · 28/11/2020 18:12

It's all too intense. I love him dearly and I am still here standing by him, trying my best to help and guide him - to parent him - in these far more challenging times.
Yes, we all love our children and do our best for them.

It's irrelevant that he was a delightful child. He's 16 now and although you don't say what these three mistakes he's made are he's not in prison so they can't be that bad.

And he can't really be blamed for his GCSEs as he didn't sit them.

16 year olds relationships are intense. They do talk about what they will call their kids and all that jazz because they are kids themselves playing at being adults. Just go with it. Don't criticise her or their relationship and be there if it all ends.

You are using the COVID situation to try and defuse their relationship. They are already seeing loads of people at college anyway so who her family sees makes no difference.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 28/11/2020 18:16

He sounds like a normal teen. Back off. He may have found the love of his life.

He may get married at 21. Life doesn’t always work as planned. But it’s his life

malificent7 · 29/11/2020 12:02

With respect...ge does sound like a typical teenager...girlfriend, not fullfilling potential. I mean is he on hard drugs, stealing etc? If not , i think you need to let go a bit...for your sanity and for his.
And welcome the girlfriend...she might be lovely.

malificent7 · 29/11/2020 12:02

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user1498582366 · 29/11/2020 13:52

I read a post on here from some years back. A parent had described that her teen having a relationship actually turned out to be the making of him a d provided her with a year of “respite”. He had completely changed back into a lovely boy.

Although it’s so hard, you have to give him his wings. So hard to do and sit back and watch I know. Trust me, I know how hard it is.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 30/11/2020 09:25

‘ I feel like my family life and business is no longer my own’

He’s doing his A levels, nearly an adult. His life isn’t your business. You are there to guide and catch him if he falls, not to navigate and control.

When the aliens return them, at around 17/18 adult children are one of the best gifts ever. Mine make me cry with laughter. Like an adult friend. Adult kids are great!

movingonup20 · 30/11/2020 09:45

It's actually quite common, and yes like you I feared that it was too serious too quickly, actually they do need to work it out for themselves.

It's hard, I've seen one of my DD's go into a mental health crisis following a break up, only covid prevented sectioning (they released to my care with home visits) so yes be aware that those already with issues can fall terribly from a bad breakup but we still can't stop them. Whether you allow sleep overs is up to you, I did because I preferred my DD's at home than lying, be aware that saying no doesn't stop teenagers having sex, far better you have a frank and honest discussion about birth control and that he should take responsibility as well as her.