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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Do I make a statement to the police regarding my son?

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purple1972 · 12/07/2018 13:49

Oh - where to start. My 14 year old son has caused so many problems over the last few months. I am aware he is using cannabis but its difficult to catch that (and is always denied). He has serious anger issues. He has smashed things up in house (holes in walls, kicking and damaging doors and bedroom furniture). He is always angry, really angry. When he gets angry, he screams at me and oftens lashes out at walls, doors etc (never me). He has been excluded from school 4 times since January. School are keeping him in isolation on a reduced timetable. He has tried counselling (one session and they said he wouldn't engage so pointless), Early Help (voluntary social services), complete waste of time - literally monthly meetings over 6 months and nothing achieved. Even had him at doctors last week and they suggested - Early Help - joke !! Though I have made another appointment for next week. He is now dictating whether he goes to school. Twice this week he has screamed and shouted at me and got changed and left the house and just not gone to school. Nothing gets through to him. This week I made him angry by hanging up the phone on him, he called me back and threatened to smash car and windows. He came back to house and there was an argument. I warned him if he did any damage to the house I would call police (I have made this threat before and not carried it out). He kicked a wall and really damaged it, then left, so I rang police. He was arrested. Initially he was shocked and upset but then after a while the attitude set back in. Later that night he came back to the house while I was talking to police. He was angry but mainly attitude and a lot of muttering under his breath. The policeman shouted at him, threatened him with care for the night and he calmed down. I have a couple of days to think about it but do I make a statement and he goes down Youth Offenders route (he has had no previous criminal involvement with the police so first offence). I have tried to talk to him about what happened and he shows no remorse. He has said 'Sorry' for the wall but not shown any reason to make me believe that he is sorry, but even blamed me for not listening and hanging up the phone. I think in my heart I know he is out of control. I tell him he is grounded etc and he threatens to smash house up if he doesn't go out (also I am usually at work). He is not a nice human being right now. Nothing seems to register and he can't seem to acknowledge/understand that all of his problems, school, friends, home are actually due to his behaviour. Whilst he admits he can behave badly occasionally, he doesn't seem to stop or want to stop. I can't lock him in his room until this subsides so this has to be dealt with somehow. This morning he even told me that he would be better off in Care as he had asked his friends about it and you get a fiver a day and all of your meals (FFS). He complains that I don't listen, but then doesn't actually say anything when I do? Whatever I do he twists it to suit his needs and manipulates to get his own way !! I am completely broken xx

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BlankTimes · 12/07/2018 18:11

Try Ross Greene's 'The Explosive Child' and see his website Lives in the Balance. It may help.

Mary19 · 12/07/2018 18:11

It might be worth looking up if there is a “non violent resistance “ course in your area or at the very least looking it up to see if anything might help.
The phone line “Frank”may also be worth a call as you say he is having some paranoid thoughts.
It is worth a proper chat with the police to see what they suggest. Sadly your situation is not unique.

BlackBeltInChildWrangling · 12/07/2018 18:11

I would also recommend Dr Ross Greene's book, The Explosive Child. He's got a website too.

purple1972 · 12/07/2018 18:17

I appreciate the advice and the kind words from everyone.
Just got home from work and there is damage to a door. Its a door that had been previously been kicked and I'd repaired it (in a fashion). Clearly some kicking gone on today. He was told I'd ring police again if there was more damage.
Oh my days ! Anyone got a magic wand i can borrow x

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0ccamsRazor · 12/07/2018 18:45

Op would you be able to pay for a private counsellor? He will start talking at some point, I had a client once whom spent the first 5 sessions not saying a word. Silence. When she did start to talk because 50 minutes not talking for 5 sessions is really difficult to keep up. She talked, she continued to talk and to heal over the year and a half, it was like a dam bursting its banks, a torrential flow of words and emotions.

If I had told her mother that she would not engage in that first session, well she would have not got as far as she did in her healing process.

The fact that he does not engage is still a communication, one that an experienced therapist would be able to work with.

The sad thing here is that the child mental health sector is woefully under funded, if a an adolescent choses to not engage they can not do much about it resource wise.

Sometimes the choice that needs to be made has to be made by someone other than the person whom is struggling and engaging in risky destructive behaviour.

Op you will have to draw the line in the sand at some point, he is going to act out again, it is just a matter of time. The choice regarding a statement to the police or giving him one more chance, well you know that the clock is ticking.

I am so very sorry that you all are going through this, I sincerely hope that he can straighten himself out, that you are able to have time to breath and that as a family things will be positive.

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FaithLoveofGod · 13/07/2018 14:09

It must be really hard for you as a mother to be helpless in this situation. I don't think you must report to the police but you can keep saying it when things get bad. You must try and find where he is getting the drugs from and see if this can be stopped. Do not give him pocket money. And just try to be calm and let him do what he wants. By going to police it will give him a criminal record and might scar his life. Unless he hurts you keep that as a last resort about calling the police involved. You have done it once so he knows how it will be if police gets involved. Its ok if he breaks stuff you can mend it or buy another one. Maybe get him a boxing bag to get his anger out. I have a DS who is 15 who is showing similar traits but not this extreme) and only loves his mobile/xbox at the mo. We as parents only exist to him when it comes to feeding time and taxi time. Its really heart rendering to see our teenagers falling prey to drugs / devices and ruining their lives. God only can help them out of this. I keep constantly praying for him. As it then gives me the strength be more calm and not react badly when he shouts and bangs doors or breaks stuff. Try being nice to him although he reacts badly then he will calm down. Just ignore him and do not react when he does or say bad things. just think that you baby is not well and going through tough times. As a mum its our responsibility to help them and get them through tough times. Stay strong and don't give up. He will find his way back one day. Good Luck!!

Frith1975 · 14/07/2018 12:07

I’m so sorry to read this, Purple.

It reads almost exactly how my eldest was, through year 11 and into college. Rude, shouting, hysterical, lying, missed 6 months of school. I knew he was taking cannabis.

It ended with his ripping a door off its hinges and threatening to throw a pan of boiling water over me (I was cooking tea at the time - he threatened to scald me if I didn’t stop and immediately drive him where he wanted to go).

At that point everything changed as I picked up the phone to contact the police and his younger brother (ASD) roared with fear for about 20 minutes.

I don’t know why that made him come to his senses. He engaged with the Early Help lady and gave up cannabis. He was definitely psychotic at times when taking it.

I wish I had an easy answer for you.

Kareninfrance · 14/07/2018 20:50

I am 2 years down the line of this- my son is now 18 and no better. Now I can do nothing else due to his age. Do whatever you can do now to force the issue with him before you get to my position - unfortunately I sat back for while hoping things would improve. Been to court - everything to try to force help. As your son is only 14 you are in a much stronger position than I was. Pm me if you want to talk.

headinhands · 15/07/2018 11:11

God only can help them out of this. I keep constantly praying for him. As it then gives me the strength be more calm and not react badly when he shouts and bangs doors or breaks stuff. Try being nice to him although he reacts badly then he will calm down. Just ignore him and do not react when he does or say bad things

Oh dear god. Please stop giving anyone advice about this.

MistressDeeCee · 15/07/2018 11:21

It's probably skunk weed he's smoking, not green. Hence the rage, paranoia etc. You won't get any help with him until you do involve the police, unfortunately. It must be hard having fear to put up with in your own home.

I hate the way skunk weed is complicit in terrible behaviour so often in young people, and yet it's not taken seriously enough by the authorities and dealt with as the epidemic it is. Anyone dealing/supplying skunk should be jailed. It's robbing so many youths of the capability to have a good life, instead turning them into little paranoid rage machines who lack motivation to try to be somebody. Making so many of them ill too. Then they're given an antidote drug and it becomes a vicious circle.

The police can access services that you may not necessarily be able to. But obviously you will be left with the knowledge that the "system" has your son. It's hard but in your shoes I'd not put up with this, he is not a baby and needs to be dealt with by those with expertise in this field.

Good luck💐

elliemillie · 22/07/2018 06:58

headinhands

Oh dear god. Please stop giving anyone advice about this.

I don't think she is taking advice from God. She wouldn't be on here if she did. Prayer is a coping mechanism for her and if its helping her in what sounds like an awful situation why would you knock it?

poobumwee · 23/07/2018 20:41

We've been there, still kind of are. Son now 16-regularly smokes weed-also complicated by ADHD and ASD. Had to call police 3 times on son, who was violent and aggressive (11 year old daughter while always kept physically safe witnessed him attacking his Dad and I and threatening to kill us). 3rd time we had him arrested. Police were fantastic, kept him in cell over night. We did not press charges. He came home and we said if it happened again we would 100% press charges and he knew we meant it. fortunately it seemed to go in and things have improved. Our son is a troubled young man, but we understand him better now and can offer him better support. BUT, as much as I love him, if it got to the stage we had before i would call the police without a second thought. we could not continue like that. I really feel your pain

poobumwee · 23/07/2018 20:47

I'd also reccommend Ross Greene too. Helped me change my lense!

headinhands · 24/07/2018 06:03

I don't think she is taking advice from God. She wouldn't be on here if she did. Prayer is a coping mechanism for her and if its helping her in what sounds like an awful situation why would you knock it?

It's not about her praying. It's her suggesting the op just needs to be nicer. Confused

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