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DD2 - a minor disagreement and a huge storming out.

71 replies

LostWithThisOne · 16/09/2017 21:42

Apologies if this is long, I've NC.

Last weekend DH and I were on holiday, we'd left DD2 18, 19 next month, at home with her boyfriend of 3 years, he's pretty much one of the family.

The short version of this is that a small disagreement has got completely out of hand.

DD1, 23 has left home, finished university, has a job and lives nearby but independently.
I mention this only to illustrate that I have been through the teen years before so I know what to do in most teenager situations.

I have paid for DD2 to have a phone contract for years and had agreed to keep paying for the next two years.
We both knew that DD2 was due for a phone upgrade soon.

DH is their Step Dad but everyone gets on very well.

We have taken DD2 on a family holiday this year and I took her on holiday on my own, so I don't think she is troubled that DH and I went away without her this time.
This is the third year in a row that DH and I have been on holiday together without DD2 but she gets a good share of holidays with us, our wider family and me on my own.

DD2 was due a phone upgrade, there's nothing wrong with her phone, she just wants an iPhone 7.
Last week while we were on holiday DD2 asked me when her phone upgrade was due, I checked and sent a text back to say that it was the next day so we could go into the shop when I got back to get her new phone.
All seemed fine.

The next day DD2 sent me an angry text to ask if I'd called the phone company to order an upgrade, I said I hadn't that the phone signal on holiday was patchy and repeated that we would sort it in a few days when I was home.
I stayed calm throughout.

DD2 exploded and we got home from holiday to find that she has gone to stay with her boyfriend indefinitely.
In itself it's not unusual for her bf to stay here or DD2 to stay with him for weeks at a time.
DD2 ceased all contact because she said I had been unreasonable about the phone.

I left it for a while then today I sent her a text to say that she could talk to me when she felt ready.
She said she would come round this evening but she wanted to come round when I was in the supermarket, I told her as soon as I was home that she could come round but by then she'd changed her mind and didnt want to talk.

From the few texts she has sent she says I don't give her enough attention.
She is nearly 19, has a large group of good friends, goes to College, is planning to go to Uni next year and when she's home we sit and chat or watch TV together, eat together and go out on the rare occasions that she isn't busy and she wants to go somewhere with me.
As I said, I take her on holiday every year, just the two of us.
If she wants to spend time with me I am always available.
We've been on Uni open days together, with more to come.

The few texts she has sent me today say that I'm neglecting her.

Her Dad left us when she was 5 and hasn't wanted to see her since she was 11.

Something about the fact that I didn't immediately order a mobile phone for her last week has obviously brought up lots of feelings for her.
She has always been possessive of me, probably because she doesn't have a Dad but the one time I didn't jump as soon as she wanted something she is using this to say that I don't care.

I feel like she's blackmailing me, we need to talk about it but she just wants to be angry instead.
I don't mind if she stays with her boyfriend but I want to be on good terms.

She is refusing all attempts at reconciliation unless I meet her right now, as soon as she decides to and if I can't make it then she decides it isn't happening. She wants to control the situation and she wants to control me.

Mobile phone aside she needs money for a school trip which has to be due in this week so she's going to have to approach me soon.

I'm tearing my hair out.
I want to give her space and I would like to talk things through as we usually do but I don't want her to dictate my movements to me.
I'm leaving her alone again now, I've tried but I don't know what to do next, if anything.

Am I doing the right thing? My friends say I'm being too soft but being angry isn't going to help.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? I know there are bigger things going on than just a mobile phone but unless she is prepared to talk about them it cannot be resolved.

Any ideas?

OP posts:
Orangeplastic · 28/09/2017 08:42

Maybe flapjack but....... She borrowed her friends and smirked at me as she said i couldnt do anything about it as they werent hers. She looked on in horror as i cut the plug off and binned them and she was forced to pay to replace them for her friend. There no mutual respect here!

flapjackfairy · 28/09/2017 08:46

Well we will have to disagree on that one orange !

Orangeplastic · 28/09/2017 08:48

Does a 19 year old really need to be told to apologise or else?

I think the phone and the apology should be separate issues - her behaviour is either very manipulative or she's confused about loyalties and the place she has in her mum's heart as she matures....when she's ready to resolve whatever it is she'll come around to talk - just don't be manipulated into rewarding her behaviour with an upgrade.

SuburbanRhonda · 28/09/2017 08:50

flapjack

I can't believe anyone would vandalise another person's possessions in order to discipline their child. You might think that makes you sound like a good parent, but it just makes you sound like someone who can't control their temper.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 28/09/2017 08:52

At nearly 19 she shouldn't be stropping about a phone upgrade like this, it prob is something deeper that is really the problem. Back off and let her come to you, particularly with school trip.

Sigh .... I was hoping my nearly 17 year old DD would be better in a couple of years. I left her in bed this morning and went to work after she called me a fucking psychopath for trying to get her up for 6th form. Decided to let her face the consequences ..... she'll soon find out her phone is in my bag and I'm not due home until about 11 tonight .

ToothTrauma · 28/09/2017 08:52

She sounds totally spoiled to me Confused Tell her she can get her own sodding phone.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 28/09/2017 08:54

I think that's fab flapjack, sometimes they need to know they're being completely out of order and you won't tolerate it, they push and push.

DD isn't having her phone back for some time ..... I refuse to pay a contract for an expensive iPhone for someone who speaks to me like that.., when all I was doing was trying to help her out.

shinysinkredemption · 28/09/2017 08:55

Flapjack was making the point that her DD was not allowed to use straighteners, unless you’ve parented a very strong willed child it’s difficult to imagine how hard it can be to impose boundaries, not the same thing as losing your temper IMO.
OP I think you’re doing everything right. I’m a fan of lovebombing, I’d go with chatting to her about inconsequential stuff whenever you can so she can open up about whether there’s more at stake than just a phone. If she’s offloading to friends I’m sure they’ll tell her she’s treating you unfairly.

RiseToday · 28/09/2017 09:00

BigSandy - a fucking psychopath? Shock

I'm not saying this is the right way at all - but if I had said that to my mother at 17 (or any age) she would have walloped then kicked me out of the house!

Adviceplease360 · 28/09/2017 09:01

Flapjack you sound like a fantastic mum. Kids need boundaries

SuburbanRhonda · 28/09/2017 09:02

Flapjack was making the point that her DD was not allowed to use straighteners, unless you’ve parented a very strong willed child it’s difficult to imagine how hard it can be to impose boundaries

I've parented two, thanks, one with the added issue of mental health problems. I would never destroy another child's possessions in order to resolve a problem with either of them though.

flapjackfairy · 28/09/2017 09:04

I have to add that she was much younger at the time. About 13 i guess and she had melted the carpet several times and gone out with them switched on and the bed was smouldering when i found them. So a massive safety issue. And no temper losing was involved just a calm consequence .

Adviceplease360 · 28/09/2017 09:04

The other child's possession was replaced and flaps kid learnt not to push their luck. Win win

HuckfromScandal · 28/09/2017 09:13

Flapjack - that’s exactly what I would do. Fab parenting.
Ffs - too many children have this idea that they can do whatever they like.
Boundaries are good, and actions have consequences. It’s a good lesson to learn early.

Mumski45 · 28/09/2017 09:20

I have to say I agree with flapjack and would have done something similarly drastic to make my point. You can’t let kids win a game of one upmanship when safety is at stake.

SuburbanRhonda · 28/09/2017 09:59

Seriously - you would all have chosen to vandalise another person's possessions and to consider that good parenting?

RavingRoo · 28/09/2017 10:04

This is clearly about more than the phone. Cousin used to blow up like this too - her dad would often go on lots of holidays (with her) but when she needed anything more expensive than £50 he would never be able to ‘afford it’ and yet still be able to go away on an expensive holiday with the step mum. Just meet her on her terms and find out what’s really going on.

MynewnameisKy · 28/09/2017 10:05

Lostwiththisone I have no advice but place marking in the hope someone else does. Although my Dd is just coming 13 her behaviour is very much material related. Confused

SuburbanRhonda · 28/09/2017 10:08

Sorry for the derail, OP Blush

RavingRoo · 28/09/2017 10:08

@flapjack - what you did was truly shocking and nothing to be proud of. You effectively bullied your dd and destroyed another child’s possessions - that you replaced them doesn’t make it right. I bet your dd hasn’t forgotten that.

HuckfromScandal · 28/09/2017 10:11

Seriously
Flapjack laid down rules
Child flagrantly disregarded and circumvented them.
Flapjack then made sure that there were consequences.

Child broke rules when she brought the straighteners into the house.
Consequences belong to the child - not the adult.

Seriously - what would you do???
Say it’s ok now.?
No wonder this country is filled with fucking snowflakes

RavingRoo · 28/09/2017 10:19

@HuckfromScandal - I would have bought her good quality straighteners, and taught her how to use them properly so there wouldn’t have been a fire in the first place.

StarHeartDiamond · 28/09/2017 10:22

It's obvious you love her very much, but her response to the phone situation is way out of proportion.

If only she really knew what lack of attention and benign neglect was! At 14 I was worrying by myself because I didn't have things like a proper school bag or tights and my mum was so cross and unreachable I didn't dare ask. In the end I asked my dad (to the penny) for the money for things I needed. He was surprised at my request for £8.98 and gave me a tenner unquestioningly. He didn't have anything to do with that side of things in our house. I grew up in a middle class family and money wasn't an issue either.

At nearly 19 your dd is old enough to start saving for the things she wants. Providing her with a phone is fine, but an unnecessary upgrade just for show is hers to earn.

Orangeplastic · 28/09/2017 10:47

@HuckfromScandal My dd would have understood and respected the reason for the ban and she would not have defied me - I give her the same respect I expect her to give me. No need to destroy other people's property to explain to her why not to destroy yours!

Adviceplease360 · 28/09/2017 11:20

No wonder this country is filled with fucking snowflakes- well said. Parents get shot down for parenting.