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17 yo daughter's risque clothes choices

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user1495105406 · 18/05/2017 12:31

Hello everyone.

My daughter (17 and a half) has had a quite womanly figure from her early teens. This has never seemed to be much of a problem, apart from her being I think a little embarassed by constantly having to ask me to buy her larger bras for a couple of years. She dressed quite normally, not conservative but not revealing either, just about right (I have never given her any advice on dressing until very recently, she seemed to have the right judgment herself). She certainly did not ever come to me with any problems she encountered as a result.

However, in the last 18 months or so she seems to be wearing more and more revealing clothes, especially as now she has a part-time job she has more freedom to buy clothes herself (not that I forced her to wear anything she didnt want to before). She now mostly wears a 32GG or 34G bra (they have been that size for about two years now....they also arent as huge as those sizes might make them sound if you're small like me..with a regular blouse and a decent bra they're barely noticeable) and she is otherwise very slim and toned as she is very active and eats well (I actually feel she spends too much time on fitness as I dont want her to become obsessed with it). In some ways she has the hourglass type figure most women (including myself!) would kill to have, which is good for her in a way but I'm becmoing uncomfortable with how much she seems to be flaunting it. At the beginning of last summer, once she started to have money of her own from a parttime job, she started buying lots of plunge bras, and wearing them with strappy tops and low-cut dresses which really puts her boobs right in your face which makes me and my husband really very uncomfortable a lot of the time, especially when other people are around. She even seems to have changed the clothes she wears to school to better show off her figure (the school has a uniform and dress code but it is not really that restrictive), so I am sure this is intentional what she is doing. She is a very pretty girl and should not need to dress in such a way to get male attention (if thats what she is doing, I dont know, it may be a competitive thing with other girls).

It is very difficult for me to argue with her because I know on one level she is right. She is adamant that its unfair that she should be not allowed to wear strappy tops or bikinis just because she has big boobs, and that she is not a "slut" just because she has big boobs. And she is completely right of course! The things she is wearing would be completely non-issue on a girl with smaller boobs. And I accept that she's proud of being very in shape. But still, this is the world we live in! Whether she likes it or not, she IS going to be thought of as "easy" or "asking for it" or whatever such stupid thing. But how can I say that without saying that she can't wear the same things as other girls just because she was unlucky or lucky enough to develop a big bust? Or perpetuating the stereotypes. One of the times I've brought it up, once was a huge fight, in which she said I was just "jealous" (I am not very voluptuous at all and never have been). I have absolutely no idea how I can bring it up again without it being an even bigger fight.

She has had one boyfriend (a nice lad who we got on with well and approved of) for about two years before they broke up, for reasons she has not explained that much about (it does not seem to have been the result of a falling out). As far as I remember the change in the way she dresses seems to have started around the same time (about 18 months ago) so I think it may be a confidence issue related to the end of that relationship? She certainly seems to still have a very active social life going by the constant use of her phone and her being constantly out. I do know from an accidental off-hand comment from a neighbour that on one occasion about six months ago she apparently had a boy over to our house when myself and my husband were away for the weekend (she does not know I know this), but she seems to be single at the moment, for what that's worth nowadays.

It makes me constantly anxious when she goes out with her friends dressed in the way she does (they say they're going to each others houses for sleepovers and such things but they could be anywhere). I also dont know what she's sharing on social media, and don't know how to bring that up as I do not really use it myself. That is a whole other thing. She has never mentioned any harassment either online or offline to me, and we have a relatively communicative relationship (I think).

She is also doing very well academically, so I am hesitant to make a big deal out of it for fear of disrupting that (or simply coming across as just cruel considering she is working very hard).

And yes, my mother told me off for what I wore when I was a teenager too. I know I know I know.

Finally, at the end of everything is the fact that she's 17, so almost an adult and old enough to go off herself wherever she likes, and free to not listen to anything I say. But that also makes me feel like I'm running out of time to let her be aware of the real world before she goes off into it by herself. And I feel just physically sick when I think of the perverts lurking out there. I do not want her playing with fire.

Thanks for reading if you made it all the way!

OP posts:
RebelRogue · 20/05/2017 13:11

Why I haven't gone to the shops in my underwear?

  1. It's too fucking cold
  2. No one wants to see that. I don't want to see that.
  3. I don't fancy the police being called on me
  4. I can't be arsed shaving.

I don't even really go around the house in JUST my underwear.

user1495105406 · 20/05/2017 13:12

"AnyFucker" (charming):

Was it also "creepy" when you posted virtually the same thread as this in 2011?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/1216981-My-teenage-dd-and-the-clothes-she-wants-to-wear-help-me-out-please

OP posts:
user1495105406 · 20/05/2017 13:15

"1. It's too fucking cold"

It is warm enough in the summer (I take it from "arsed" that you're in the UK or down under) to wear swimwear outside, so its warm enough to wear underwear.

"No one wants to see that. I don't want to see that."

Yep, precisely. You understand my problem.

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AnyFucker · 20/05/2017 13:16

I have enlightened and educated myself since then. I suggest you do the same. It makes no difference how much you disapprove, your daughter is old enough to make her own choices and deal with any unwanted attention she may get.

AnyFucker · 20/05/2017 13:16

And your op is very creepy. I am not the only one to think so.

Whiskwarrior · 20/05/2017 13:20

Creepy. As. Fuck.

Are you new here, OP?

Your strange digging up of a long-standing, well-established poster's old thread in a vain attempt to defend your own position is outright odd.

yikesanotherbooboo · 20/05/2017 13:22

I don't really think you can give 17 year olds advice unless they ask for it or perhaps in the case of outlining what is expected at an occasion in the case of her ignorance e.g. Interview/ black tie do/ granny's birthday lunch etc
See it as experimentation which is her right as a teenager

PortiaCastis · 20/05/2017 13:22

I no longer know what bra size my dd is as she does her own shopping and it's her body not mine

PortiaCastis · 20/05/2017 13:24

I'm more concerned about dds A levels at the moment

SleepFreeZone · 20/05/2017 13:25

AF what is your daughter wearing now btw, 6 years on. That might help the OP.

user1495105406 · 20/05/2017 13:25

"Your strange digging up of a long-standing, well-established poster's old thread in a vain attempt to defend your own position is outright odd."

I searched the forums before i made my first post to see if a similar problem had been addressed already, and (unsurprisingly) remembered the username.

"I no longer know what bra size my dd is as she does her own shopping and it's her body not mine"

I do the washing and need to separate her underwear from mine.

OP posts:
PortiaCastis · 20/05/2017 13:26

I do the washing but can't be arsed to look at every size ticket

user1495105406 · 20/05/2017 13:26

And AnyFucker, that's all well and good and maybe I will be educated and enlightened in time, but perhaps you could have been a little more understanding and a little less aggressive given that you had the same situation in the past?

OP posts:
Whiskwarrior · 20/05/2017 13:27

I do the washing too. And I know which bras are mine and which are dd's by the way they look. We don't have the same bras.

Do you tell your underwear apart by checking the size labels?

AnyFucker · 20/05/2017 13:28

The op doesn't want help, Sleep. She wants to discuss her daughter"s breasts at length and for everyone to agree that the way she dresses is asking for trouble.

user1495105406 · 20/05/2017 13:28

And I find people finding this "creepy" to be fairly "creepy" in itself, if I may be honest.

OP posts:
user1495105406 · 20/05/2017 13:31

"I do the washing too. And I know which bras are mine and which are dd's by the way they look. We don't have the same bras. Do you tell your underwear apart by checking the size labels?"

I dont intentionally check every single size label for goodness sake. Yes, some items are easy to tell apart at first glance but some aren't

OP posts:
user1495105406 · 20/05/2017 13:33

My daughter also actually speaks to me on a regular basis, believe it or not, frequently about things such as buying new clothes

OP posts:
Hawks71 · 20/05/2017 13:34

Totally get why you are concerned......in terms of how others may treat her, because of how she dresses, and while we all know this is wrong, its the reality of the world we live in. Trying to discuss this with her will be a challenge, because she will feel outraged that her freedom to express herself is impacted by how others "may" perceive her. I guess it may create an opportunity to discuss sterotypes-make her understand you support her freedom of choice and how proud she is of her body, but she just needs to know that you want her to be safe.

Unfortunately, because of her age-ie nearly being classed as an adult , I'm not sure how I would approach this any differently to how you already have. You daughter may also just be experimenting until she find a style that she is comfortable with as she moves into womanhood.

Whiskwarrior · 20/05/2017 13:34

Hang on, everyone else is creepy for finding your lengthy post about your daughter's breasts creepy?

Ok then...

LilaBard · 20/05/2017 13:37

wtf is creepy to be concerned about your teenage daughter wearing revealing clothes??
OP I understand where you are coming from. I am early 30s and never wore revealing clothes because I was scrawny/flat chested and lacked confidence. Now I wish I had because I also had a lovely flat stomach that doesn't seem to want to return!
It is totally understandable to be concerned if your daughter is wearing very skimpy clothes, not about her actions but about the reactions of others. Shouldn't have to be the case but it is. But you also don't want to undermine the confidence she has in her figure - something a lot more of us could do with tbh.
I think it's probably just a phase. A young woman discovering she has a figure that is seen by many as desirable. Let her go, summer will soon be here & gone for another year. She will soon get it out of her system and guests to the house etc will get over the fact that she isn't a child any longer.

Whiskwarrior · 20/05/2017 13:39

My dad (15) has literally just walked out the door. You don't want to know what she was wearing (actually, OP would probably like a detailed description) but it's her choice, her body. I fully support her. I spent my teens and twenties with a sniffy Mother (she still does it now) who pulled a face at everything and expected me to dress like a 60 year old woman. I wouldn't mind if I wasn't in jeans and rock-band t-shirts and trainers. But red lipstick? Tarty. Colourful clothing? Ooh no. Bare legs? Good grief no.

I am still fixing my self-esteem now, in my 40s. DD will never get that treatment from me. She is finding her own way and I'm letting her.

Anyone who makes sexual inappropriate comments or the like? 100% they are a prick of the highest order.

Whiskwarrior · 20/05/2017 13:39

My DD, not my fucking Dad...

Thegiantofillinois · 20/05/2017 13:44

If you can't wear revealing clothes in your late teens, when can you? I was once thrown out of a pub at 17because I was flashing my knickers when I played pool. I counted it a victory if my dad nearly had a coronary when I went out on a Saturday night. My head of 6th form had to have a word about my skirt length and I felt positively Victorian if my boobs weren't out.

I wasn't harassed any more/less than other times in my life. I also grew out of it but glad I did it.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 20/05/2017 13:47

Really you need to be on social media too if your kids are. Learn if you need to.

You shouldnt sit in judgement of her but instead accept her for who she is. It's very normal for a teen to experiment with image. It's very likely that she knows how rigid you are too and might be trying to shock you.