Please someone tell me when teenage girls stop being so awful and horrible...

[JessePinkmansHoody]

I realise not all of them are. But my 15 year old daughter is, whenever she chooses, and hang the consequences. And I dance around trying to please her so she gets what she wants and the rest of the family don't get involved..

I never dreamed I'd be such a shitty useless excuse for a mother..

cloudchasing I was talking about how teenage girls are so often talked about in such terms, not individual posts about sons. It happens all the time, "teenage girls are so awful", "you know how horrible girls are" etc. Anyway you said you don't want to hear from teenage girls so I'll leave it there.

With my two DDs it got better once they had been away from home (one to Uni, one to Australia for a year )
Most teenagers are awful. It's their rite of passage
Teenage DS presented his own set of problems but it all got better when they were all in their twenties.
We don't always agree with each other but we respect each other. Finally!

But so are teenage boys. I'm not dismissing your opinion, it's just that mothers have been teenagers AND mothers.

No, teenage boys definitely aren't. "You know how bitchy teenage boys can be", "oh don't send your son to a boys' school, they're so cliquey and judgemental on each other", "that's teenage boys for you, always falling out and backstabbing", "teenage boys love a drama". Nope. I know mothers have been teenagers and mothers, I can't see how that negates how teenage girls are always spoken of and how this is rooted in misogyny.

I'm not sure it's totally rooted in misogyny although I take the point the girls are often referred to as 'difficult' more than boys perhaps.But is that because Its rooted in frequent common experience?
I was awful to my parents when I was a teenager-13-17 particularly bad.To everyone else I was lovely.Its great that your peers appear to be kind and ambitious and brave to you as their friend.But they may not be behaving like that at home-in the spaces where they (hopefully) feel safest and so express themselves freely-and in my case, as in a lot of cases it seems, not always in the nicest way.

Ahhhh, she has entered 'the tunnel'.
Most teenage girls enter it at some point. She will reemerge at about 18/19 give or take a year. You won't recognize her, she will be lovely, she will be your friend, she will talk to you and share days out with you. In the meantime, hang on in there.

OP, would you consider writing a letter to your DD apologising for the way she was sidelined in childhood because of her brother's needs? Maybe the poster who went through similar could advise you on what might be best? Ir sounds like her anger and resentment needs to come out in the open so that your relationship can heal sooner rather than later. (Not blaming you of course. You did what you had to do.)

The OP was writing over two years ago. I'm mostly horrified at how many on here think teenage girls are indeed "awful" and "horrible". Incredible that so many endorse this misogynistic viewpoint and show no concern for all we go through as teenage girls (despite having been teenage girls themselves at some point) or the horrific sexism society and so many teenage boys throw our way constantly (and with social media it is constant).