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How can I get her back?

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chocoluvva · 29/07/2012 07:21

DD has spent two nights at her boyfriend's home and is going to stay tonight again. She's nearly 15 and he'll be 18 next month.
I agreed to the 2 nights, knowing they were going to the cinema with his mum and older sibling on the first day and thinking they had something nice planned for yesterday after I'd taken them along with one of DD's friends to the airport to say goodbye to a dear friend of theirs who is returning home to the other side of the world.
On the way back from the airport I asked DD's BF what his plans were. He was very vague. I offered to take them all back to our house for lunch. We had to pass the end of our street to take DD's friend home anyway. BF thought his mum probably had lunch organised so he thought they should go straight back to his house (3 miles from our house).
5pm. DD and BF arrive at our house asking if DD can stay over for a 3rd night (which will be tonight). I wanted to say no, you're very lucky to stay over at all etc etc but thought maybe DD's mum had something nice planned (it seems that she organises DD and BF's dates quite frequently!) and DD and BF would be bitterly aggrieved so I invited BF's mum who was waiting outside in the car in for a cuppa in.
She came in a bit reluctantly - needed to get back to take the washing in. She'd been pottering about the local shops with DD while BF had been at his drop-in sports thing and explained in great detail how they were going to spend the evening and today working on making a photo CD montage thing of BF's life up to now to have for fun at his 18th birthday party in four weeks (and give copies off to his birthday guests) and they really needed to crack on and get this done for reasons XYZ.
DD is really giving IMO. She went to BF's gran's funeral in May at his mum's suggestion/request though she'd only met her once. (They started going out with each other in December of last year), went to several of his hobby events (which she's interested in, in a slightly different field - but she was really busy at the time. Once, BF's mum got DD a ticket without asking me first). She chose him as her friend to come on our holiday at the start of July (scottish schools etc). He got back and spent all his money on equipment for his hobby. He's doing two weeks work in August and nothing else before he starts uni - here, in our home town. He does almost nothing on his own with DD except go to the cinema and go out for occasional meals.
He appears to have no close friends. He doesn't like DD's best friend and she doesn't like him. He didn't go to his school leaving prom. They bitch about everybody - not something my DD is usually guilty of and rarely say thankyou for anything. DDand BF prefer to spend more time at his home than ours (I think because I expect higher standards of manners and don't tolerate swearing in our home). Also BF is a fussy eater - though I take pains to cater for him.
DD is about to start her most important year of school and completely distracted by BF and his family. I feel miserable and helpless about the whole thing. What can I do?
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bonhomiee · 26/08/2012 00:09

Oh and encourage other friends to the house

chocoluvva · 29/08/2012 14:40

Thank you for your helpful posts.
BF's mum rang today to ask if there is anything DD would like for her 16th birthday - which is in a few weeks. BF's sister and her had been chatting about it. In some respects that's lovely isn't it? On the other hand it makes me uncomfortable - not just because I don't feel comfortable about suggesting presents. As it happens, DH and I gave BF a small gift for BF's 18th, but 18 is much more of a milestone birthday than 16 isn't it? And she was invited to join the family dinner at a restaurant. I told DD that if it had been his 17th birthday I'd probably have given him a card and a bar of chocolate!
Now I think about it, (not that I want to be thinking about it - I'd like it all to be done with....) I did mention to BF's mum that I'd spotted champagne on offer and considered getting a bottleofr BF's birthday, but DD thought BF wouldn't like it as he doesn't drink wine (whereupon BF's mum agreed and made various alternative suggestions).
It was a good chance for me to ask after BF's mum's health though. She's recently been diagnosed with an incurable chronic health condition. What with that and various other things she doesn't have an easy life - I really feel for her.
BUT we didn't know this family until last December! Their apparent lack of friends must pre-date this year...... DD is a schoolgirl.....

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Redglow · 29/08/2012 21:35

I think it's quite normal for her to want to buy your daughter a present to be honest.

I also think you do meet some people in life who will tell you your life problems.

bonhomiee · 29/08/2012 23:16

I also think its normal .. altho is only her 16 th it is in part reciprocation for your gift to him

I just think you don't like them very much or don't feel comfortable with this relationship and the family friendship

Try and do more with DD or DD and BF at your place maybe

chocoluvva · 30/08/2012 11:43

It's the fact she's making a big deal of it and letting me know. Birthday's not until Oct.
BF's sister is going to bake DD a cake.She enjoys baking as do I. Over the winter I gave them bits and pieces of baking and sis' asked for one of my recipes. According to DD (so possibly not entirely accurate as she's only 15) Bf's mum read it aloud commenting that it was more of a description of, "Here's how X makes this cake", "Ooh, a serving suggestion - just like an M+S advert"! 'Buzz off', I thought but in a SLIGHTLY sweary way, 'You ASKED for that recipe - just say thankyou (like normal people!)'. She didn't say thankyou, you see. Obviously, I'm oversensitive.
Anyway, last year I made DD a cake as usual, in spite of feeling dreadful (chemo at the time). I would not bake a cake for someone if I knew they really enjoyed baking. I suppose I could come over all competitive and do a REALLY ELABORATE cake. (Not my style). And when will DD be supposed to get this cake? BF's mum has form for organising DD.
And it now turns out that she wasn't going to be at BF's eighteenth party (next door, but still). Fine, by me - not up to me - but she must have realised from our conversation that I THOUGHT she was going to be there. I feel she kind of misled me. This came out while discussing plans for BF's birthday with BF yesterday.
It all seems a bit much when you consider that given DD and BF's ages and the fact that he's going to college now, while she's still at school it seems unlikely they'll be going out for much longer.
I'm really touched that this thread has been read and posted on. Can I be cheeky and ask, Redglow, has your DD seen much of her ex BF and his (lovely laid-back) family since they stopped going out?

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chocoluvva · 30/08/2012 11:45

Oh, BF is staying over here at the weekend. Since he's "A Germophobe", I'm going to go and scrub the bathroom grouting now!!!

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bonhomiee · 30/08/2012 14:53

Hi choco

It seems like BF mum is a bit in awe of you and really likes DD and wants to be friends with you too and wants this relationship to continue

I don't think you feel the same and hence the tension

The cake they bake is for their house, yours is for your house and as you say it may all fizzle out as it will be in term time....

Is BF moving away from home for college or living at home ?

Redglow · 30/08/2012 15:24

Laughing at you cleaning my daughter said the bfs mum was a clean freak!!! In answer to your question when they finished they never saw each other unless they bumped into each other we live in quite a small place

Strangely my son is quite friendly with the ex and my daughter flounced in the other day and said what's here doing here and I should not let him in. Thing is when she was with him he never did come in.

Go for the childish way and cook a fantastic cake can't believe they are planning now when her birthday is not untill October . Just smile and let them get on with it.

chocoluvva · 30/08/2012 21:13

BF is living at home. College started this week.
I pointed out my cleaning efforts to DD this evening -"Look, the grouting's improved no end. From black to grey in under three hours!"
It seems that BF is PROBABLY coming to stay over on Saturday, but he hasn't "asked his mum about it yet". I jumped at my chance and exclaimed how 'sweet' of him it is to ask his mum for permission to stop out now that he's 18. When DD's 18, if she's still at home she won't need to ask for permission. As long as she TELLS me etc etc. How nice of him. And after all, BF might have ANY NUMBER of reasons for not wanting to stay over: our house isn't nearly as nice as his lovely immaculate house, he might have plans for sun morning..
Did I do okay? DD's been on about this 'sleepover' for a week. She was going to have spent the night at his house last weekend after the party but when it was cancelled the arrangement for this weekend was made. Very odd IMO. I suspect that BF has many issues. He's so evasive and dilatory about things. If I was in DD's shoes I would not be impressed.

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chocoluvva · 30/08/2012 22:05

Well, he's now officially going to be staying over on Saturday. Best get off to bed so I can get up early and get the windows cleaned tomorrow!

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Redglow · 30/08/2012 22:25

You have done really well and the good thing is they will be at your house and not theirs for a change.

Hope he turns up ok and you don't do all that cleaning for nothing.

chocoluvva · 10/09/2012 12:36

Nooo :(
I Lost it with DD last night - again.
Despite previous conversations about not phoning for a lift with no notice and about not answering her phone when she's there, she phoned from BF's at 5 past 10 to ask for a lift home.
When I got there and saw her through the (large) open window chatting away all sweet and smiley to BF's mum I decided that I wasn't going to wait one second for her, got out of the car and headed for the door of the house. BF opened it and said hello which I ignored (as I was furious). Instead I hissed at DD, "Get in the car NOW I'm not a taxi service." BF's mum appeared in the doorway and said, "I would have taken her home if she'd asked". I was too angry to risk saying anything to her so I just hurried into the car and drove off, shouting angrily at DD and saying how she can't go back to BF's house until I decide. Half an hour later, still fuming I went into her room and demanded she hand stop texting him (late, just seen him, blah blah) and hand over her phone. Which she didn't and she changed from being apologetic to annoyed and defensive.
I must have undone most of my good work. BF's mum loves running him around - one morning last week she drove him to the railway station (even though it's probably quicker to walk) then drove home to pick up his sister and take her somewhere. So I will now be super-unreasonable- ogress. :(
I don't know how to deal with this when DD gets home from school. Part of me thinks I should apologise for being shouty, but she doesn't understand why I was so annoyed and might just think I'm backing down for the sake of an easy life.

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chocoluvva · 15/09/2012 09:51

A new development - DD was fine the day after I shouted at her. There was no tension, but last night BF's mum was huffy with me when I went out to the car to apologise for being rude last week.
Basically, she would hardly speak to me when I said I'd been so cross at my DD (and not calm) that I couldn't trust myself to speak to her and thought it best to drive off quickly. She's offended/annoyed.
This is a bit upsetting - I know it shouldn't be. I'm annoyed that I handled last week badly - (though it wasn't beyond the pail or anything) and annoyed that she behaves in such a way that I often feel I have to tread a fine line to do what's best for DD.
I don't have a thick skin and am easily upset if I displease people and normally try very hard to avoid offending people. I'm looking for MN hand-holding.... :(

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