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SHOULD I WARN HER OF POTENTIAL TRAUMA ?

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MonkeyMagic000 · 15/01/2025 14:28

Please sit down, this is the short version but still a long one…!

I met my now ex 10 years ago, we hit it off immediately - funny, affectionate, so much in common, we were practically twins ! He lovebombed me and was very needy, but I was too blind to see any red flags. I had a little cash in the bank and within 5 weeks we were buying a house (jointly). For context - we were both in our 40’s, blissfully happy and 100% certain we wanted to be together forever.

It didn’t take long for me too learn of his alcohol problem. I didn’t believe he was an alcoholic as such, as he could often drink some wine with dinner then go to bed / get up for work quite normally, but occasionally the wheels would fall off and it was like living with a vile zombie. It was often bought on by stress (only recently diagnosed ADHD), he found it hard to deal with anything difficult, like problems within his business, or if I had a job interview or had to go away for work. The ‘episodes’ could last between 2 and 11 days, leaving me in survival mode. The cycle involved downing a bottle of wine, eating a few mouthfuls of takeaway, glasses smashed, ordering cocaine, passing out, lying in his own vomit, wailing like a banshee, leaving the house, then later / next day banging on the door to be let back in (despite having keys) - ON REPEAT.
It was really quite disturbing and scary, difficult to cope with alone, often ruining birthdays or other occasions. Ambulances have been called, and he always discharged himself to get more booze, just to ease the comedown. You never knew when each episode would end and believe me, I tried all ways of supporting and reasoning with him. He was always remorseful after, saying he couldn’t remember anything and didn’t want to be like that. I know his previous partner and wife both had 10 years each of this behaviour too. But I thought we were so happy together that surely I could help him break the cycle ?

After 10 months, he went to rehab for 10 days, which cost around £12K (on a credit card!) and he managed to stay clean and sober for 6 months, until we went on holiday and it all started again. 2 years later I could not take anymore and told him we were selling the house, quitting our jobs and moving away to the Welsh countryside - he needed to go to rehab again (which my work insurance paid for) and if he could promise to make it work, he could come too - if not I would go alone. I loved him, when he was ok he was wonderful, and we had such a great time together - really hard to walk away from that, but I’d had had enough of the episodes of outrageous behaviour.

Rehab plus the work he put in proved successful for the next 20 months, although I struggled with the fact everything was always about him, and his recovery. What about me, and what I’d been through ? However we started a business together, which despite its success could be quite stressful. I had a couple of mental health breakdowns, which I think were partly hormonal (he loves to call me a ‘mad menopausal bitch’ when angry), but I battled on, holding everything together when he continued to spiral out of control. By this point we’d bought a new home, I loved it and spent a lot of time renovating and making it lovely for us. But it was just a Band-Aid really, my heart had been slowly hardened over the many years of trauma. We had counselling, separately and together, but it was so hard to move on from his addictive and destructive behaviours when they were still happening, including messaging random women for attention (if I wasn’t providing it), booking a session with a transsexual hooker (it never concluded as he / she wouldn’t let him in as too drunk!), and leaving me in the shit when he was on a bender. For context here - he has some history of sexual abuse and family trauma - I’ve always tried to be there for him and he’s had counselling, but we haven’t had any sexual contact for 7 years. We still used to cuddle a lot but I slowly withdrew from that too. We ended up being just best friends really…that’s more than many partnerships are and we were ok with that. Plus I was not going to walk away from my home and lose everything…when we were still each other’s ‘person’.

The final straw however - he wrote my car off. I’m guessing he had alcohol in his system but this is still to be disputed. I decided I must end the relationship, put the house and business on the market which was a tough decision as I will now not be able to buy alone, so will have to rent which is going to stretch me financially as a single person, as I am starting from scratch with my next business project so no income as yet.
My ex planned to move to his brother’s house for a while, he was not relishing the prospect as it’s not an ideal situation for somebody of his age but he needed cheap digs whilst studying / retraining and focussing on his recovery. In all honesty I felt it fitting he should suffer for a while, lifestyle wise, after all I’d been through because of him. I’m surprised I’ve survived this all so far tbh, but had hope that at least I’d never have to go through another potential relapse, and also that I’d end up with a nicer new home than him !

I have just found out, via his phone (he knows I know the passcode) that he is in a relationship with somebody who has been sniffing about for a while. She has 2 teenage kids and has just ended her 32 year relationship, probably waiting for this new glimmer of hope to finally throw her husband out. She only knows the good bits about my ex’s life that she reads on FB, although he has probably since confided in her about his recovery situation, etc. They can only have been together properly once or twice, yet both say they’ve been with the wrong people until now, and now is THEIR TIME ! I wasn’t the wrong person, I just couldn’t offer him the charmed life he wanted on a silver platter. She has just been to the solicitors for an initial meeting about filing for divorce, fuelled by this new spark of love and excitement. My ex encourages her too, obviously! I have since discovered she has a very well paid job and lives in a big £1.2M house in a stunning exclusive location - way more than my ex could ever dream of, let alone hoped to live in ! I bet the £££ signs are flashing in his eyes and he thinks he’s won the lottery ! He will have very little financially to contribute after our house sale, minimal pension, no car and no job. I doubt she knows this… And to think, the new woman is already unhappy with her soon to be ex-husband because he doesn’t have a job ?!

The fact they are talking about forever after just weeks of being a couple smacks back to how things were at the start of our relationship, and how maybe I should have been more cautious. Little did I know that to have happiness and a home together, I’d also have to endure and suffer a lot of awful things.
She still has the divorce to go through yet, which could get messy.

So my question is, SHOULD I WARN HER ?
OR - should I let the husband know they are together ? My ex is already terrified that I’ll ruin him by showing any new partner photos / videos I have of him during his episodes. I could just let them all get on with it, hoping the wheels will fall off again eventually and he’ll destroy that too. But my concern is, maybe he won’t relapse this time, as he won’t have any stress, or a business to be worrying him ! Please don’t think I’m an awful witch - despite all he has done, I really did want him to recover and be happy (eventually), just not THAT happy and privileged - as some kind of consolation, I’d hoped to have the better and more comfortable outcome from this whole situation, than the one that was originally intended (him dossing at his brother’s). I know he’ll do his utmost to get his feet under this new table and keep them firmly rooted there, and I don’t think he deserves such a fairytale ending whilst I’ve suffered and will continue to do so as I have lost everything.

Please be kind here. I’ve suffered enough trauma already and just need some external opinions…

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Bananalanacake · 15/01/2025 14:52

If she lets him move in quickly then she's only got herself to blame, if she puts her foot down and says she wants a relationship but living apart then great, she can easily get rid of him when she realises he's an alcoholic.

behappybee · 15/01/2025 21:26

It won't last hun his mask will slip , concentrate on yourself xxx

Wolfiefan · 15/01/2025 21:28

Focus on yourself. No good will come of you trying to warn her off.

CheekyHobson · 15/01/2025 21:36

Kindly, you need to cut off contact with him so you can move on with your life. He’s a trainwreck and if his new girlfriend can’t see the obvious signs, it’s probably because she has some major issues of her own.

Youre not her savior, or his, so let go of this relationship completely as it sounds as though you have work to do on saving yourself.

shellyleppard · 15/01/2025 21:41

The thing is if you did try and warn her would she believe you?? Or would he label you as the crazy ex??? I think it might be better to let her find out the hard way..... your ex obviously has form for this sort of behaviour. Sending you the biggest of hugs 🫂 💐 🙏 ❤️

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 07:37

I forgot to say, he’s currently 7 months sober, and doing great. Going to AA meetings 3 times a week and doing his step work. I’m not only upset that she’s going to get the best version of him, but also that without a stressful job and money worries, he may just be able to stay on the straight and narrow this time - especially as he won’t want to lose his potential new Lord of the Manor status and lifestyle.
It just is not fair - and I guarantee he would not be interested in her if she didn’t have a pot to piss in.

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Icanttakethisanymore · 16/01/2025 07:45

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 07:37

I forgot to say, he’s currently 7 months sober, and doing great. Going to AA meetings 3 times a week and doing his step work. I’m not only upset that she’s going to get the best version of him, but also that without a stressful job and money worries, he may just be able to stay on the straight and narrow this time - especially as he won’t want to lose his potential new Lord of the Manor status and lifestyle.
It just is not fair - and I guarantee he would not be interested in her if she didn’t have a pot to piss in.

It is totally understandable that you feel this way but you need to work on letting these feelings go and moving on. Warning her (whether it’s for her benefit, or out of resentment that she might get what you wanted for so long but couldn’t have) will not make you feel better. You are grieving the life you wanted but couldn’t have and that’s a process that wil take time. X

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 07:47

CheekyHobson · 15/01/2025 21:36

Kindly, you need to cut off contact with him so you can move on with your life. He’s a trainwreck and if his new girlfriend can’t see the obvious signs, it’s probably because she has some major issues of her own.

Youre not her savior, or his, so let go of this relationship completely as it sounds as though you have work to do on saving yourself.

I had done such a good job of making sure I was mentally strong and ok after ending the relationship 9 months ago, and was fully focussed on my future.
We have had to continue to live together since splitting, whilst we sold the house. Unfortunately him potentially landing some kind of lavish new lifestyle was not something I had envisaged, and it has floored me. The whole unfairness of the situation, right at the final hurdle. How dare he get to win the life of his dreams, when he has ruined mine.

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Whyherewego · 16/01/2025 07:53

Look at this in a different way. Ex is moving on and sees ££ in his future. So he may be less inclined to fight tooth and nail over all your joint stuff. This is better for you.
forget the pass code or tell him to change it. No good can come of snooping. And no good will come of any conversation with her. They are in honeymoon period and she won't listen.
Move on, walk away and don't look back. This man has treated you badly and you deserve better

Lightswitchup · 16/01/2025 07:56

I completely get it but you’re just likely to come across as the bitter ex and she won’t believe you or he will gaslight her about it. It’s pointless getting involved and you need to cut contact apart from anything practical for your own peace of mind.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 16/01/2025 08:05

The best thing you can do for yourself is get as far away from this man as you can, cut him out, don't try and follow his life good or bad. Focus on you, put your energy into yourself. You've spent a decade focused on him, it's not an easy habit to break, but you don't need to centre your life on him and what he's feeling and what's he doing anymore. You can put yourself first now. What does moving on from this in a healthy way look like? What does really putting yourself first look like? It's not about where he goes and what he ends up with, it's about you, not him.

My abusive ex is a high earner and I'm sick and cant work and a carer for our SN kids. He's out partying and dating again, going on holidays, living a life I can never have. I have so much trauma from him and far too much on my plate, but I can be angry at life's unfairness or I can put that energy into building a good life for me and my kids. He's not worthy any more of your mental space, he's not worth anymore of your emotions. Life is fucking unfair and yes arseholes sometimes get much better lives than they deserve. You can't change him or whatever will happen in his life, but you can change what happens in yours. Focus on what you can control and building a life you can be happy in.

Not2identifying · 16/01/2025 08:08

Gently, he didn't ruin your life. You did by choosing to stay with him. I'm not saying that to tear you down but to empower you. Forget him and focus on doing the best you can for you. You need you on top form to set yourself up again.

Edit: typos

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 08:29

Not2identifying · 16/01/2025 08:08

Gently, he didn't ruin your life. You did by choosing to stay with him. I'm not saying that to tear you down but to empower you. Forget him and focus on doing the best you can for you. You need you on top form to set yourself up again.

Edit: typos

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Unfortunately, it was also for financial reasons. I always knew I couldn’t afford to live alone (and still can’t really) but I have no option now. Hence the huge disparity of unfairness of the final outcome…

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CheekyHobson · 16/01/2025 08:35

It’s not a final outcome.

HereBeWormholes · 16/01/2025 08:45

He wasn't an alcoholic because he had to work, and now it will be 'cured' by a cushy life - he will drink for any reason - boredom, resentment, when the initial glamour falls off their life and she expects him to step up for her teenage kids (who I can't imagine will give him an easy time)... There will be something along soon enough that he can 'blame'.

Of course he's putting on his best face now, but the strain will start to crack him. You don't have to do a thing except focus on living your best life without the constant drain of this loser bloke...

There's a saying: 'If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by'.

Lightswitchup · 16/01/2025 08:58

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 16/01/2025 08:05

The best thing you can do for yourself is get as far away from this man as you can, cut him out, don't try and follow his life good or bad. Focus on you, put your energy into yourself. You've spent a decade focused on him, it's not an easy habit to break, but you don't need to centre your life on him and what he's feeling and what's he doing anymore. You can put yourself first now. What does moving on from this in a healthy way look like? What does really putting yourself first look like? It's not about where he goes and what he ends up with, it's about you, not him.

My abusive ex is a high earner and I'm sick and cant work and a carer for our SN kids. He's out partying and dating again, going on holidays, living a life I can never have. I have so much trauma from him and far too much on my plate, but I can be angry at life's unfairness or I can put that energy into building a good life for me and my kids. He's not worthy any more of your mental space, he's not worth anymore of your emotions. Life is fucking unfair and yes arseholes sometimes get much better lives than they deserve. You can't change him or whatever will happen in his life, but you can change what happens in yours. Focus on what you can control and building a life you can be happy in.

Great post. You are a legend!

Catavodkaandtonica · 16/01/2025 08:58

You can’t warn her.

I suspect your ex saw the writing on the wall with you (you were at the end of what you could cope with) and has just found himself somewhere else before he is booted. He’ll say whatever he needs to say to keep a roof over his head. I doubt he’s capable of loving this woman.

FWIW get yourself some therapy. This is very recognisable so name change. One of my best friends lives with us and his pattern of drinking is very similar. Without going into detail drinking has nearly killed him on more than one occasion. It’s just bloody awful and so hard to watch. I found I needed to talk to someone who understands addiction to not get sucked into the drama (& I’m just a friend/not in a relationship with the person doing this). It’s also helped me understand his behaviour and my responses better.

It’s so hard when someone is just great in between binges as you see all the potential. Anyhow eventually it comes to the stage where change has to occur or they have to move on (not least because by providing somewhere safe we can end up enabling this behaviour which may kill them at some stage). Things are looking hopeful here but - it’s incredibly hard work for him & he wants to change (& it’s not such a risk for me as I am just a friend). I still don’t underestimate how hard it will be for him.

Your ex shows no desire to change and moving on in the way he has just proves that. Eventually he’ll run out of people who will support him and will have to make the changes to be independent or he’ll meet a sad end.

I hope you can find a way to afford being alone so at least you don’t have that occupying your head.

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 09:19

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 16/01/2025 08:05

The best thing you can do for yourself is get as far away from this man as you can, cut him out, don't try and follow his life good or bad. Focus on you, put your energy into yourself. You've spent a decade focused on him, it's not an easy habit to break, but you don't need to centre your life on him and what he's feeling and what's he doing anymore. You can put yourself first now. What does moving on from this in a healthy way look like? What does really putting yourself first look like? It's not about where he goes and what he ends up with, it's about you, not him.

My abusive ex is a high earner and I'm sick and cant work and a carer for our SN kids. He's out partying and dating again, going on holidays, living a life I can never have. I have so much trauma from him and far too much on my plate, but I can be angry at life's unfairness or I can put that energy into building a good life for me and my kids. He's not worthy any more of your mental space, he's not worth anymore of your emotions. Life is fucking unfair and yes arseholes sometimes get much better lives than they deserve. You can't change him or whatever will happen in his life, but you can change what happens in yours. Focus on what you can control and building a life you can be happy in.

Oh gosh, I so relate to this. You have such a lot to cope with but are obviously handling things like a trouper. You speak so much sense. I hope your ex is still supporting you and your kids, and I wish you all the very best. Thank you for your understanding !

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MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 09:29

HereBeWormholes · 16/01/2025 08:45

He wasn't an alcoholic because he had to work, and now it will be 'cured' by a cushy life - he will drink for any reason - boredom, resentment, when the initial glamour falls off their life and she expects him to step up for her teenage kids (who I can't imagine will give him an easy time)... There will be something along soon enough that he can 'blame'.

Of course he's putting on his best face now, but the strain will start to crack him. You don't have to do a thing except focus on living your best life without the constant drain of this loser bloke...

There's a saying: 'If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by'.

Love that quote lol !

You’re correct with that first statement, but at 7 months sober and for the first time, not having to go to work (but just focussing on recovery, health & fitness and enjoying life), he stands the best chance of STAYING sober !
With the prospect of a future he could never have previously dreamed of or anticipated, he will do his utmost to STAY sober - he won’t want to lose the opportunity of a lifetime…

But I do know addicts are never cured, and things will present themself (new gf’s potentially messy divorce for instance) that could crack him. I don’t wish that upon him, but I also don’t want him to get way more than he deserves.

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OkPedro · 16/01/2025 09:33

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 07:47

I had done such a good job of making sure I was mentally strong and ok after ending the relationship 9 months ago, and was fully focussed on my future.
We have had to continue to live together since splitting, whilst we sold the house. Unfortunately him potentially landing some kind of lavish new lifestyle was not something I had envisaged, and it has floored me. The whole unfairness of the situation, right at the final hurdle. How dare he get to win the life of his dreams, when he has ruined mine.

He's an alcoholic he will not have the life of his dreams if he is attaching himself to another woman who he can leach off. The only way to recover is to be honest. It's not as simple as just stopping drinking.
I'm a recovering alcoholic in AA. If he doesn't change he will drink again and it only gets worse. Be glad you are not in his life for him to further drag you down.

LuluBlakey1 · 16/01/2025 09:39

Just ignore them, let them get on with it. Separate your self from him completely and forever.

It does not matter who he is with, where he lives or what he does- just forever be glad it does not involve you. Do not involve yourself in any way. Stop wanting/wishing anything for him- good or bad- you are wasting your energy and investing your emotions in him.

Break the ties. Never look back.

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 09:44

@Catavodkaandtonica He does show a desire to change and shortly after I dumped him, he did 3 weeks in rehab and has since been sober for 7 months…but I decided I couldn’t risk going through anything like I had even one more time, it’s too destructive. I’ve had loads of therapy over the past few years which is why I was eventually able to make that decision.

I’m sorry you’ve had to endure similar circumstances with your friend. Nobody truly understands what this looks like until they have lived through it. Episodes lasting days, weeks…never knowing when they’ll come out of it, psychosis, the mess and damage caused, physically and mentally. You try everything, but nothing works and it’s heartbreaking to witness. And then the rest of the time, you have that person back, as their usual wonderful self - until the next time. I wish your friend well and hope at some point he can take care of himself fully, so you are relieved of the stress.

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Catavodkaandtonica · 16/01/2025 09:59

Something I have found useful is to understand the difference between sobriety and abstinence. My friend always said ‘never again’ and would then abstain and go through the motions - and be good at it tbh. Until he wasn’t. And until he wanted to drink again. That was something I had to get my head around - he drank because he wanted to and to hell with everyone else.

This time it feels like deeper changes are taking place in all areas of life and I’m hopeful. I have learned to distance myself from it all - but I want him to do well because I care about him and I don’t want him to have to find his way in a less safe environment. It is coming to the end of the road at ours (if he makes the choice to have another binge) just because I think that if he can’t do it here it must be in part because we are protecting him from the consequences of his choices. So much of substance abuse is about ignoring all responsibilities to others - and ultimately the person with the problem has to make the decision to be a responsible adult human being.

It’s so hard to walk away when you can see the potential - but if I had been in a relationship I would have had to have left a long time ago. It’s possible to maintain distance as a friend that you just can’t in a relationship.

MonkeyMagic000 · 16/01/2025 11:24

@Catavodkaandtonica I really hear you there. What you have done to support him is magnificent but you do feel like you’re enabling if it continues long term, I get that. Sounds like you deserve your home back and some peace, because it is a lot to deal with when the bad stuff happens. Good luck and thank you for sharing - it’s appreciated.

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ThisWormHasTurned · 16/01/2025 13:52

I get your perspective (my XH was similar but not quite to the same catastrophes and not to getting help). He jumped out of our long marriage (15 years) into a new relationship within a couple of weeks. She also has teenage kids.
People asked me if I’d warn her about him and I said no. God knows what he’s told her about me being a crazy ex, probably how I was unsupportive and made stuff up so that if I ever did speak to her, he’s already made sure she wouldn’t believe me. They’ve been together 3 years, they’re getting married soon and he still hasn’t introduced us properly!
Honestly she’s old enough now that she will have to make her own mistakes and learn for herself.
You need to step away from your ex. He is a car crash and all you can do now is make sure he doesn’t take you down with him. if she does share her wealth with him, he’ll bleed her dry. It’s not easy street for someone like him. He won’t be able to stay on the stable path for very long. He’s shown you this already.

I assume from your posts that you don’t have kids? I’d suggest you create a specific email for contact if there’s any communication left regarding the house and block him on everything else. Staying in touch will make you feel crazy.