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Hannah Fry's blouse in HIGNFY tonight

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Celiathebanshee · 05/12/2025 21:24

Anybody got any idea? Sort of brownish with a massive flower

Hannah Fry's blouse in HIGNFY tonight
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socialdilemmawhattodo · 06/12/2025 22:51

Kingsleadhat · 06/12/2025 22:34

What was it about Victoria CM that put you off?

Edited

Do see my earlier post on the exact same question.

TheQuirkyMaker · 06/12/2025 23:00

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 05/12/2025 22:04

No idea I'm afraid but I thought it looked silly. She has beautiful skin. I'd throw my gran off a bus for her skin.

She is heartachingly pretty.

soupyspoon · 06/12/2025 23:05

CoffeeCantata · 06/12/2025 16:20

I really WANT to like Mary B, but a friend who had her as a tutor at Cambridge disillusioned me. Shall we just say…she wasn’t very sisterly’ to other women, to put it mildly!

So she doesn't come up to expectations put on her by others about what she should or shouldn't be?

So what, she's not obliged to be something or someone that she isn't and as another poster suggested I would think she is almost certainly ND from her presentation style.

Re another post, I also don't get what the issue is with what VCM said on room 101

CoffeeCantata · 07/12/2025 06:57

soupyspoon · 06/12/2025 23:05

So she doesn't come up to expectations put on her by others about what she should or shouldn't be?

So what, she's not obliged to be something or someone that she isn't and as another poster suggested I would think she is almost certainly ND from her presentation style.

Re another post, I also don't get what the issue is with what VCM said on room 101

I was responding to a poster who said she 'loved' Mary Beard.

But you're right - we're dealing in perceived images, usually highly manipulated by the media. MN often has threads in which pps discuss which celebrities they like or (nauseatingly) 'would like to be best friends with', and I guess this irritates me because I'm very aware of how false and deliberately constructed these images are. I'm always depressed that so many people think what they see on telly is the real thing.

With MB, who I've heard a lot on discussions and panel programmes on the radio, and watched on her various TV documentaries, I know she does position herself as a strong feminist and left-leaning academic. From what she says on these platforms, I was surprised to hear that her personal attitudes didn't tally with what she says she stands for.

Similarly - Germaine Greer (who I've a lot of respect for and would agree with you that she shouldn't have to be perfect either) is/was notoriously difficult with other women. It's an interesting point: does feminism mean you should always be nice to other women? Perhaps it doesn't - I can see that. Why should you be any nicer to people because they're women than, say, men? But it's something you hear trotted out on MN and elsewhere - the idea that feminism means supporting women just because they're women. It's a simplistic interpretation of feminism, so, yes, fair play to these people.

CoffeeCantata · 07/12/2025 07:01

Checknotmymate · 06/12/2025 22:47

She's a senior academic. It's a very masculine environment and women are under a lot of pressure to spend all their time mentoring early career researchers while the men go off and publish. You learn you have to be a bit unsisterly if you want to succeed. But also she probably is ND as most senior female academics I work with are, it's a profession that's a natural fit.

This was to do with her manipulative treatment of undergraduates, though, not her peers.

Checknotmymate · 07/12/2025 07:06

CoffeeCantata · 07/12/2025 07:01

This was to do with her manipulative treatment of undergraduates, though, not her peers.

I don't know the details of what the claim is. But ug students are a time sap. They typically approach female lecturers more than men because they perceive us to be 'approachable' which is lovely but means women in academia have far less time to do what gets them promoted. Knowing most senior female academics, she probably set clear boundaries. Or maybe she suggested they do extra work on her projects to stretch them (as was the academic model) and is seen as taking the micky?

You can guarantee that whatever feedback she gets will be far harsher than her male peers get.

CoffeeCantata · 07/12/2025 07:10

Checknotmymate · 07/12/2025 07:06

I don't know the details of what the claim is. But ug students are a time sap. They typically approach female lecturers more than men because they perceive us to be 'approachable' which is lovely but means women in academia have far less time to do what gets them promoted. Knowing most senior female academics, she probably set clear boundaries. Or maybe she suggested they do extra work on her projects to stretch them (as was the academic model) and is seen as taking the micky?

You can guarantee that whatever feedback she gets will be far harsher than her male peers get.

No. She invited her tutees to come to a 'get to know you' session with a poem or something they'd chosen or written, to read out to the group.

She then mocked a couple of them and raised their choices later in tutorials as being 'very revealing' about their psychology and made a number of unfair assumptions based on what these 18 year olds had chosen to read on their first week at university. I'd better not say more, but my friend felt betrayed and lost her trust in her as a tutor.

Checknotmymate · 07/12/2025 07:14

CoffeeCantata · 07/12/2025 07:10

No. She invited her tutees to come to a 'get to know you' session with a poem or something they'd chosen or written, to read out to the group.

She then mocked a couple of them and raised their choices later in tutorials as being 'very revealing' about their psychology and made a number of unfair assumptions based on what these 18 year olds had chosen to read on their first week at university. I'd better not say more, but my friend felt betrayed and lost her trust in her as a tutor.

I can see this both ways. As a mortified student but also as an academic who is trying to bring out more critical thinking. Academia is essentially constant criticism and it's how a lot of academics operate. Present anything and no colleague of mine would respond in a "that's a great study check" it would be straight to the jugular picking it apart.

CoffeeCantata · 07/12/2025 08:56

Checknotmymate · 07/12/2025 07:14

I can see this both ways. As a mortified student but also as an academic who is trying to bring out more critical thinking. Academia is essentially constant criticism and it's how a lot of academics operate. Present anything and no colleague of mine would respond in a "that's a great study check" it would be straight to the jugular picking it apart.

No, I think it was unethical - to say no more than that.

It was presented to the young women in their first week as a purely social 'come and have a glass of wine and let's all get to know each other' evening, but clearly notes had been taken and not in a good way. They had been encouraged to read/write something very personal and revealing and that hadn't been appropriately respected. It wasn't an academic tutorial situation.

I'm a bit allergic to this kind of thing, having witnessed similar from a teacher at my school. She made a point of targeting vulnerable students (girls) and getting them to open up to her in a very personal way and then stored that information, turned on them and in one case, destroyed a girl who left school and just sank into a depression.

I think some academics forget how vulnerable 18 year olds are.

Checknotmymate · 07/12/2025 09:20

Well yes she might just be a horrid bitch. It's hard to discern in academia.

StarlightLady · 07/12/2025 09:57

What is MN coming to? Wouldn’t it be nice to think that on a Style & Beauty thread about a blouse for goodness sake, that there is no need to turn it into a slagging off session about others?

Merry Christmas everybody. 🎄

Fgfgfg · 07/12/2025 13:09

overnightangel · 06/12/2025 06:42

Ah yes Alice Roberts, the scientist who doesn’t believe in biology.

Unfortunately Hannah Fry has similar views. I was very disappointed when she came out with a comment on her Radio 4 show.

Tunnockstester · 07/12/2025 15:14

Why does she always insist on being called PROFESSOR Hannah Fry? It seems unnecessary especially on HIGNFY.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/12/2025 16:04

Tunnockstester · 07/12/2025 15:14

Why does she always insist on being called PROFESSOR Hannah Fry? It seems unnecessary especially on HIGNFY.

Why shouldn’t she? She is. Would you say the same about Prof. Brian Cox, Prof. Stephen Hawking, Prof. Jim Al-Khalili, etc?
As far as I’m aware, they always use their titles, too. Again, why shouldn’t they, they’ve earned them.
Unlike the HRHs who use their titles without fail.

StarlightLady · 07/12/2025 16:23

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/12/2025 16:04

Why shouldn’t she? She is. Would you say the same about Prof. Brian Cox, Prof. Stephen Hawking, Prof. Jim Al-Khalili, etc?
As far as I’m aware, they always use their titles, too. Again, why shouldn’t they, they’ve earned them.
Unlike the HRHs who use their titles without fail.

This.

Plus the number of female professors are a mere 32% of those who hold the title, so she is a role model to girls.

soupyspoon · 07/12/2025 16:48

Fgfgfg · 07/12/2025 13:09

Unfortunately Hannah Fry has similar views. I was very disappointed when she came out with a comment on her Radio 4 show.

Yes I heard this as well, instant turn off

AgapanthusPink · 07/12/2025 17:15

nobest · 06/12/2025 15:25

Agreed, it seems to be the consensus this year.

An acquaintance of mine applied to be on the show but was rejected as she didn’t have ‘a quirk.’

How do you know it was because she 'didn't have quirk'. At least 1000 people apply and you're not explicitly told the reason you're rejected? They do want a different range of style though so if lots of people, equally good, do something very similar they'll only choose one or two.

I was very disappointed Sally didn't win. Chloe's print of her housemate was better than the one of Brian Cox and I thought she'd have done better with Hannah as she had more time. I didn't like last year's winner who managed to make Lorraine Kelly look like a man in drag and never through the whole process managed a portrait that look like the sitter but the artist was trans so ticked the diversity box.

SpottyAardvark · 07/12/2025 17:19

DP fancies her. He always did have good taste. 😉

PaperPond · 07/12/2025 22:08

AgapanthusPink · 07/12/2025 17:15

How do you know it was because she 'didn't have quirk'. At least 1000 people apply and you're not explicitly told the reason you're rejected? They do want a different range of style though so if lots of people, equally good, do something very similar they'll only choose one or two.

I was very disappointed Sally didn't win. Chloe's print of her housemate was better than the one of Brian Cox and I thought she'd have done better with Hannah as she had more time. I didn't like last year's winner who managed to make Lorraine Kelly look like a man in drag and never through the whole process managed a portrait that look like the sitter but the artist was trans so ticked the diversity box.

Yes, it’s not intended to find the best portrait artist in the UK and Ireland, just like GBBO isn’t going to select the 12 best bakers in the country and whittle it down to one— both are cast in part to get a spread of different types of artists/bakers. They definitely don’t want sixty photoresists or Florence-style traditionalism.

nobest · 07/12/2025 22:13

Tunnockstester · 07/12/2025 15:14

Why does she always insist on being called PROFESSOR Hannah Fry? It seems unnecessary especially on HIGNFY.

Because that is the right way to address her. It’s literally her name!

nobest · 07/12/2025 22:13

Fgfgfg · 07/12/2025 13:09

Unfortunately Hannah Fry has similar views. I was very disappointed when she came out with a comment on her Radio 4 show.

You’re joking? God how disappointing!

PaperPond · 07/12/2025 22:36

Tunnockstester · 07/12/2025 15:14

Why does she always insist on being called PROFESSOR Hannah Fry? It seems unnecessary especially on HIGNFY.

And there we have it, the perfect combination of suspicion of demonstrable intellect and tall poppy syndrome.

Emanwenym · 08/12/2025 11:18

Tunnockstester · 07/12/2025 15:14

Why does she always insist on being called PROFESSOR Hannah Fry? It seems unnecessary especially on HIGNFY.

Maybe it's her Equity name. Brian Cox is a Scottish actor so it makes sense for the professor to use the title.

Fgfgfg · 08/12/2025 13:32

nobest · 07/12/2025 22:13

You’re joking? God how disappointing!

It was just a passing remark that made me think oh no, not you as well. Been racking my brains to try and remember which episode it was.

LongOutBreath · 08/12/2025 16:51

Fgfgfg · 07/12/2025 13:09

Unfortunately Hannah Fry has similar views. I was very disappointed when she came out with a comment on her Radio 4 show.

Really?
What a fucking let down if so.

However, of course she's allowed to call herself professor! It's not like a hereditary title, she's earned it!

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