Anybody a hairdresser?? Why can I not persuade a hairdresser to do this......

[GreenElizabeth]

To thin my hair out from underneath. So that from the top it just looks like shoulder length all one length hair.

I have the thickest, thickest, thickest hiar. It is awful . I cna do nothing with it. I dont wnat layers because that will make it go all kinky and a bit curly but not even properly curly. Just weird and sticky out.

I would like to buy one of those hairdressers 'thinning' scissors and do it myself, even though that is a big no no.

I've now asked three HDs about this and they look at me as though I had asked to have my hair cut into the shape of a cockerel.

because... imagine putting a headband on (like ballerinas have), yanking it up at the back and sides and then putting a mound of thick hair curly hair on top.

it wont make it better, it will make it look like you have been electrified.

or like a live topiary experiment !

I don't understand that! ARe you a hairdresser?

Surely the not inconsiderable amount of hair left on top would more than cover up the 'thinned out ' hair underneath/?

Oh it's one of those types of hairdressers is it? We have a couple of hairdressers at my local salon who can seemingly only cut hair in the one style, after trying to get said hairdresser to cut it in the style I wanted, I changed my hairdresser and hey presto.... I got what I wanted.

Change your hairdresser.

I have extremely thick hair too EG tis a pain {sympathetic pat on shoulder}.

I am currently looking for a new hairdresser as a bad cut looks awful on thick hair.

Toni and Guy hairdressers all get taught 3 signature T+G styles that they cut hair in, all get sent to manchester or somewhere to train 'the toni and guy way'.

Kay, I was trying on clothes recently and I saw my head from behind. It upset me a lot. I could see my bum and it was about as big as I knew it was, but it was my HAIR! It looked ridiculous. Like a genetic mutation. It just stuck out like a triangle.

I have it all one length right now and it looks ok (ish) at the front. I was unaware of how nuts it looked from behind.

I do want to keep the 'style' I use that term loosely, because being able to put it back in a pony tail stops it from being too much like a loo brush.

Do you know what I mean btw? Have you ever tried it?

Ranting I will do that. I live in a villagey place now. I will give it a bit more "when I lived in London Fabio always did it"

Crikey, I can't stop hairdressers thinning my hair! I have a lot of it but the individual strands are thin iyswim so if it's thinned I look scalped. Come to think of it the Toni and Guy chap I barked at for brandishing his thinning scissors did look slightly panicked and lost, I obviously diverted him from the template.

Yes, in T&G they love to 'feather' and 'razor' but that just makes my hair go curly.

lol at the panicky T&G HD. I can imagine. Did they have a training day for "awkward' customers (ie the ones who thought they knew best).

ge i think mankym is right, the shorter blunt cut bit would push the rest out very soon.

there must be another solution. i usually wear my hair up becuase then i have no worries re fringes etc (am curly). i or my sister cut it occasionally to stop it getting chewed looking.

weep to think of the money i have spent on hairdressers who didn't make it look half as good.

ProfYaffle bandy the words "blunt cut" at your hair dresser and if they pick up the scissors to do that thinning bit round the front after they have cut it remind them you want it blunt cut

GE - if you are London or South try RUSH GROUP they have a number of salons and are fab. Definitely not the Tony & Guy school of cutting.

try and find decent Hairdresser and ask more about products to tame your hair rather than cuting it, i know what you mean(am hairdresser) but it would look odd , the new hair would grown back making the old hair stick up/out even more, thinning scissors..yak!..hate em(had v.v.v.vthick hair as a child!

Actually a fantastic bit of advice someone once gave me is to pick a hairdresser who has hair that is a similiar weight to yours iyswim. It sort of makes sense to do that but, it never occurred to me until someone said it!

ooh - jargon - handy! Can curly hair be blunt?

Pink chick, would the hair still stick out even if there was a load more (very thick) hair on top of it. I just want to have the hair at the nape of my neck thinned out, so that the hair hangs flatter and doesn't go out in a triangle shape.

When I was 17 I had it shaved there, and I can't remember anything strange happening when the hair grew back.

I am not a huge fan of 'products'. Bit of anti-frizz serum is great but I thnk fructis one in the green apple shaped bottle is as good as the really expensive ones.

yeah, cos when it grows back it wills tick out until it gains any lengh, so will push rest up.

If you imagine your hair but only thin and fine (mines frizzy too and now thin after years of alopecia)..would it look better or worse?

TBH I'm not sure ProfY, All I know is blunt cut means cutting the hair without doing all that chopping into it later. All the cutting in makes it go like chewing gum all long an stretchy after a new weeks and looks thin. I allow a tiny bit of cutting into the hair around my fringe but nowhere else. It looks so much healthier now

this is actually what my hairdresser has said he wants to do to my hair next time. i have recently changed hairdressers after a string of terrible cuts (and i mean terrible) my hair is thick wavy/curly and my new hairdresser is the same! when i talked about the different ways i didn't want it thinning out ie cutting massive chunks out and calling it layered, he suggested thining/layering from underneath... thought it sounded a bit odd at the time but obviously something that can be done!!

I think I have uploaded a picture of my weird hair on to mumsnet.

hmmmmmmmmmm that scenario doesn't sound good pink chick. Back to the drawing board.

Ps in this picture I have blow dried my hair 'straight'. ie, this is what it looks like when I have made and effort to make it look normal.

Wow I'm jealous drink mroe tea. I'd be prepared to try it once, becuase my hair never looks normal anyway.

Did he have a jargony name for this technique? If I have the right jargon I will get more Reeeespek I feel.

firstly i have to correct you. I have the thickest hair in the world.

you can't thin it out from below because that is just weird unless you go all emo and shave the sides.

ask around and find a really good hairdresser adn accept the fact that you need to blow dry your hair. i can't quite bring myself to use straighteners but they do tame the triangle beast somewhat if you can be arsed.

well... am not a hairdresser but your hair looks just like mine except mine is jet black and so looks like a burnt out bonfire if its not cut right.

you need to go for what my friend calls the "hack into it" approach which is basically loads and loads of thinning all over with a cut that is pretty much long underneath getting progessively shorter.

so that it ends up lulu-like? do you know what i mean or shall i try and find a pic?

you might think that will make it go mad but firstly it'll be so much easier to style being thinner but also the shape sort of lifts at the top and then splays out at the bottom.

Get it layered. It will thin it out, but from the top rather than your idea of from underneath (which will not work, BTW, it will stick out more when it is growing back, and it will look weird, like it is 'far away' from your head)

Seriously, get it layered.

Oh yes - and always blow dry, and get some straighteners.

I have thick curly/wavy hair, I resisted layers for years, but now have my hair layer and cut into. Blow drying straight doesn't work for me. I would seriously recommend some GHD hair straigteners - worth every penny. You get lovely swishy, shiny hair.