Anyone recommend any treatments for upper eyelids before a blepheroplasty?

[eyeI]

I suspect I will need a blepheroplasty when I am older as generations of my family have had old age obscured vision by v. saggy eyelids.

I am not quite there yet but on the way.

Has anyone had anything for this area (skin starting to sag and lose tone) that actually worked (or at least helped) that is non-surgical?

Thanks.

Unfortunately the only thing that will work seems to be surgery. I have heard of plexus but not met anyone who has had it.
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Yes I've seen about Plexus and micro needling, lasers and other stuff. I've googled around and spoken to a couple of botox people but I'm really looking for feedback from anyone who has had anything done that they were pleased with - even marginal improvement.

I know that really only surgery will make a big difference. I'm resigned to having to have it done most likely when I am older and for vision reasons not vanity looking at my ancestors.

Now I'm looking for minor improvement or delaying it getting worse at this stage.

I and my sisters and mum have all had v saggy eyelids.
I'm reluctant to slice, so I've been having Botox brow lifts every 6 months or so.
Definitely lifts the lids!
Not cheap though at £250 a pop!

I’ve thought about trying those eyelid stickers…

@gettingolderbutcooler

so I've been having Botox brow lifts every 6 months or so.
Definitely lifts the lids!
Not cheap though at £250 a pop!

Where do they inject the botox for a brow lift? How many injections do you have per eye?

What are the wider effects in terms of muscle freezing? Does it mean you can't raise your eyebrows?

You could try eyelid tape/ stickers. They can help but are fiddly to apply.

They work but you can see them.

I tried creams and stuff and Botox but had a bleph in the end. I know two people who had the laser and both said it was a waste of money.

Botox brow lift
Plasma fibroblast pen
Gua sha
Facial lift massage
Face yoga
Nuface microcurrent facial toner

All of those treatments mixed together at different times will certainly make a difference amd should buy you a fee more years until surgery becomes necessary.

@Noperope - have you had any of these?

I am looking for recommendations from people who have actually had treatments.

Massage for this area is proven to be damaging because it stretches the skin.

thanks @Phase2 for your laser info. that's what I'm worried about. I think with stuff like this you really need to speak to people who have had it done to see. I know for example there are lots of issues with plasma pens and burns.

I'm not interested in the stickers because this is not a vanity issue for me. It is trying to delay the inevitable so to physically delay deterioriation or to have a marginal improvement before I end up with eyelids giving an old english sheepdog vibe.

Botox doesn't work for me as I've too much skin on my eyelids and it pulls it funny. It's great for my wrinkles otherwise but not to lift my brows.

The tapes aren't a terrible option if you can get them in the right place.

Nothing will delay it really. No creams and definitely don't get the plasma pen without searching the thread on here where everyone has been left scarred.

I'm going to get surgery in a few years.

I'm 45, similar saggy eyes coming my way at pace, not heard of anything short of bleph that works...sympathy! I've tried a million and one eye creams. Micro needling is nice in general...

@Urghhhhhhh

did you have microneedling in this area? did it help? better? worse? the same?

What do you mean not a vanity issue? Are you worried about excess skin affecting your sight eventually? This is pretty rare I believe.

They did my whole face but I don't remember them doing eyelids - and for the cost, you're getting on for 40 pc of cost of bleph anyway...

One of the two had scarring the other just no difference and a sense of disappointment. Having said that bleph surgery needs good research, have also seen people with poor results.

I have friends who did both - Plexr and upper lid blepharoplasty. As well as do Botox in general.

So - Plexr does work, but it's rather expensive and only tightens the skin somewhat. Botox - also helps and can delay dropping of eyelids. But you'll have to do it to more areas than just the brows - as face has many interconnected muscles.

Blepharoplasty on its own - sounds scary, but is not as bad as people imagine. I thought it requires actually cutting through the eyelids and stitching them anew. But turns out it's not like that - at least when people in their 40-50s do it. The doctor takes out the top layer of skin, not cuts all the way through. And then there are not necessarily stitches - there is glue, or even some other way of closing the cut. And recovery is faster than one would think.

OP - if you don't want to have droopy eyelids - don't. It doesn't matter if it is for aesthetic or other reasons. But - I'd not wait until you are really old and can't see - as any operation in later ages has more risks and heals less well.

If bleoh is inevitable why not just get it done sooner rather than later?

Not had anything else but I did have a bleph - in case you wanted to ask any questions about it. It was so easy in terms of recovery and I wish I had done it sooner. The only thing is I know I may need it again as I get older. So it’s worth delaying it as much as possible in a way.

@eyeI
They do over the brow, on glabellar lines, at end of brow.
I couldn't frown much! But I didn't want a smooth forehead so I wasn't immobile!
Takes about 2 weeks to have the final result kick in

I had the Blenheim bc the sagging of the skin was affecting my eyesight and I’m glad I did it. They now do the operation under the eyelid so there’s no scarring whatsoever. My medical insurance also paid for it bc it caused loss of eyesight. I did not type Blenheim, spell check did, lol

Co2 laser
I had it done on my face 2 years ago and they ran the laser very close to my eye. They now have caps and can do the eyelids also.
There is probably the same downtime as surgery but it would be cheaper.

Goid luck with your decision.

If your sagging lids affect your vision, you might be able to get the bleph on the NHS (I think). Maybe speak to your GP.

I am not sure why you are trying so hard to postpone the bleph tbh. It is a relatively simple procedure that can be done under local anesthetic and lasts a decent length of time, especially combined with a brow lift.