Please help me replace this lovely Christmas present

[ThatAgileLimeCat]

DB bought me a lovely jumper for Christmas but hadn't noticed that it contained wool, which I can't wear.
I'm really struggling to find anything like it though and shorter jumpers can look odd on me as I'm tall.
Budget up to £100. Must be wool-free.
I feel like I've tried everywhere but I can't have done surely. Any help really appreciated.

Oops. Sorry, just saw it's because you're vegan. Sorry!

I disagree sheep don’t find shearing anymore stressful than a haircut, a lot do in my experience. A lot of sheep don’t like being handled so being sheared isn’t an enjoyable experience and if they don’t stand still which most don’t they will have to be grabbed and held, sometimes be the shearer sometimes using a mechanical hold. Plus even before the actual shearing the sheep will have been rounded up by the dogs into a small pen, they may even have been rounded into a trailer and driven to the area to be sheared depending on the layout of the farmer’s land. The sheep will need to wait in the small pen to be sheared, this may be a wait of several hours for some of the sheep. Meanwhile the dogs are milling about which they will find stressful. The sheep don’t understand any of this and most will find it stressful and uncomfortable.

It's challenging to choose fabrics that are environmentally sustainable

Does anyone know about the impact of bamboo?

I choose wool as it's biodegradable. Knowing that they've found tiny creatures with fragments of microplastics in them at the very deepest point of the ocean we can reach concerns me!

They'll find climate change a damn site more lethal stressful though.

And I doubt any animals are thanking humans for the proliferation of microplastics

It's irrelevant what our opinions are on whether vegans should wear wool. This one doesn't want to. She wants links to non-wool pink chunky jumpers.

Why not start a new thread to debate the ethics of wool if people are that interested?

I love wool, but I don't care if someone doesn't want to wear it 🤷

It's being returned to the store.

I’m not arguing against wool as an ethical choice. The poster I quoted literally wrote ‘Shearing isn't any more painful or stressful than hair cut is for humans’ which is what I was contesting. I grew up in a farming community and have helped with plenty of shearing and it’s not a calm blissful treat for the sheep! Whether the long term effect of climate change would be more stressful to sheep as a species is irrelevant to that point, besides most sheep are only going to live 1-5 years anyway so the sheep who are currently being stressed out being shorn to make jumpers aren’t going to live to see any long term effects of climate change.

You are right. The original jumper is mostly synthetic fibres, with a small amount of alpaca wool, the gathering of which causes intense distress to the alpacas due to the rush and lack of care taken, and the conditions they are kept in.

Thanks to the links on this thread it is being replaced by one that is made of recycled materials.

Always amazes me how some posters get so het up about the choices of others when they have zero impact on them. I don't leap onto style and beauty posts and start banging on about the ethics of those wanting a leather handbag.

@MolkosTeenageAngst I did more than grow up in a farming community, I grea up on and work on a sheep farm. I have shorn many sheep, with both hand and mechanical clippers. It's not a spa break but nor is it cruel.

Would you be ok with recycled wool? I ask because I'm vegetarian so have been a bit fussy about this sort of thing but thought recycled is a really good compromise as it's better for the planet and therefore the animals down the chain.

If so, baukjen and passenger are good places to look.

I didn’t say it’s cruel, I said it’s stressful which you claimed it isn’t, or no more stressful than a human’s haircut. Few humans get as stressed about a haircut as sheep do at being shorn, in fact a haircut is a treat for many adults whereas being shorn is definitely not a treat for sheep. If you grew up on a farm you must know sheep often don’t like being handled and are easily stressed out and that being shorn actually is often stressful, as are most necessary interventions involving dogs and being handled for sheep. Being a stressful experience isn’t the same as being a cruel one so I don’t know why you’ve pointed out it’s not cruel as that seems irrelevant to the argument on whether it’s more stressful to a sheep to be shorn than it is for a human to get a haircut. I’d argue it very much is more stressful, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s cruel.

OP, I have no style or beauty advice but I would suggest you change the title of this thread to ‘The role of veganism in fashion. Discuss…’ 😂

Its ridiculous isnt it?
If the poster had said 'no turtlenecks' we wouldnt have had a giant conversation about how turtlenecks are perfectly acceptable and should be worn.

But say you wont wear something coz you are a vegan and suddenly everybody knows better!
hint-you dont know somebody else's opinion better then they do!

Sorry you are getting a hard time on this thread from a few posters. I found this company if that helps ...

immaculatevegan.com/collections/sustainable-vegan-jumpers

Thanks. I know that my superiority veganism can sometimes be triggering to lesser beings others. 😉. It's rather weird but I got what I needed from the thread so all good.

You obviously don't understand veganism. I'm not vegan but I do know the principles!

You could try looking at hemp jumpers? A vegan work colleague felt the same about wool etc and wore a lot of recycled polyester for basics but hemp products for 'woollens'.

Op, yes, shearing an alpaca causes distress, but mot as much distress as not shearing them,and the impact that has on them in the summer, which is simply cruel.

https://twothirds.com/en-gb/collections/sweatshirts-women/products/nares-ecru?_gl=1apq1ft_upMQ.._gaMjA3ODY2MDY4Mi4xNzM1MzA4MzA4_ga_MQTWNGL3PV*MTczNTMwODMwOC4xLjEuMTczNTMwODMxNy4wLjAuMjAyNDM3NTQ2OQ..

I am not vegan myself, but my understanding is that veganism is against any and all kinds of exploitation of animals. Yes, it would be distressing for these animals not to be shorn, but the reason they need to be shorn in the first place is because the human race has bred them and exploited their existence to make it what it is today. Perhaps without human intervention, these animals would not exist in such high numbers as they do today, or perhaps they may have evolved naturally solving their shearing problems, but vegans are against humans interfering with them and using them for human gain.

Again, I am not an expert myself but have had a few vegan friends in my student days so that’s my understanding of it and any more knowledgable souls can of course correct me or offer a better worded explanation.

I watched sheep shearing as a child as a friend's Dad a farmer. I was quite distressed by it. Only watched briefly and a sheep had a heart attack during shearing.

nobody argues with ND on Mumsnet!

If only that were true...

Yes, sadly shearing is terrifying for sheep. They're very easily scared anyway (as anyone who has ever been near a sheep will know) so being grabbed by a stranger, manhandled, and shorn is an extremely frightening experience, as it would be for any dog or cat. It's also done very quickly (because time is money), often resulting in cuts.

We think shearing sheep is "natural" because we've done it for hundreds of years, but there's nothing natural about it for the sheep - it's deeply unnatural for them to be grabbed and shaved by a human. Basically, we need to just leave animals alone.