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Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: It's French charm, you know, beheaded people, red wine and blood all over the place - it's romantic, it's normal.

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botemp · 11/08/2024 12:50

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CrkdLttrCrkdLttr · 02/10/2025 20:51

The R4 interview was solid listening. I felt, just on instinct rather than tremendously careful observation that the Dior show looked a tiny bit … rushed. Not all of it was well thought out - though I’d love one of those flouncy mini skirts. Agree about the models.

And NY! Ages since I’ve seen my relatives there (too long ago for any suggestions to be relevant) but this isn’t a moment when I’d personally be overly keen to go back. Unless for theatre. After attending a tiny seminar Brandon Jacobs-Jenkins gave in Oxford a few months back it would be sheer gold to watch one of his plays on his home ground. So I’d recommend that if any are happening right now.

Floisme · 03/10/2025 19:01

I loved the hats at the Dior show. I have no clue what any of it meant but I want one.

botemp · 07/10/2025 12:34

I think the hats were a nod to Galliano's time at Dior, tbh this was one of the things that irked me the wrong way about the show. Not interested in the rehabilitation of JG, Dior fired him with good cause at the time, you can appreciate his tenure but the weird campaign around his reputation has always puzzled me (mostly as it doesn't seem to stem from him).

Fashionpalooza seems at an end now (I think), caught a bit of the 'new' Chanel live last night and it wasn't all that earth shattering but the more I looked at it, I could appreciate it a bit more. Model casting was a good change, no more of this ingenue looking women in their grandmum's clothes. It's still very Chanel though, as framed by Karl Lagerfeld. The difference seemed to be more on material innovation and I did quite enjoy the take on tweed and lightening it up a bit. Unlikely to make me a customer, doubt that's the aim, it'll certainly please the existing clientele. Though, I was tepid about his first show for Bottega as well and then he really evolved it to something more special and did make me a BV customer so I'll reserve judgement.

I'm torn on the new Loewe. It's a good continuation, I feel, I'll be curious how it trickles down to what they sell in stores (JW's wilder stuff never made it there). But it felt very New York somehow, can't pinpoint it exactly but it just didn't feel of the place where it's from or showing at, a bit too much of a carefully branded brand iykwim.

From pouring over images and videos of a few shows of interest, I did feel there was a sort of split, some seem to be very much chugging on in this well worn commercial path (kind of what I felt at Loewe and Dior) and others seem to want to reinvent the idea of fashion (Bottega and Chanel), but visually it wasn't all that overt but it did feel striking how women were portrayed in both.

There's a nice long read with Yohji Yamamoto on BOF (archive link to bypass paywall here, the opening lines very much appeal to my state of mind around fashion atm,

“Fashion has become a joke,” he says. “It’s all about money. The major companies of fashion, they’re like kids playing soccer, just running after the ball. They’re not thinking about their customers."

And today there's one with MB of Chanel (but not archived yet so can only pull a quote) that sort of sits in the same vein.

“I think fashion is in a funny state,” said Blazy. “It grew very, very fast over the last years, post pandemic, and it kind of hit a ceiling. I think now what fashion needs to do is to rethink its own model, but not just when it comes to design. We’ve seen some houses exploding, we’ve seen some houses collapsing. What needs to be done is a deep work on what fashion stands for. I think we are at a stage where fashion needs to re-imagine its own narrative. Luxury is not enough anymore. It’s expensive and it’s rare, so it’s good? That’s not enough.”

And while that all has me nodding along, I'm also a bit suspicious as if this is what has been precisely test group focused on what consumers want to hear from a fashion brand...

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Papyrophile · 08/10/2025 12:22

For those of you who are not Times' readers, today's paper has an article about Rejina Pyo's collab with John Lewis, which hits the street tomorrow. I am feeling a rush to the nearest branch coming on powerfully. Hopefully you can open it

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/fashion/article/the-collab-fashion-editors-have-been-waiting-for-6rbbh785n

The collab fashion editors have been waiting for

Anna Murphy previews the John Lewis x Rejina Pyo collection. But you’ll have to be quick — it’s bound to sell out fast

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/fashion/article/the-collab-fashion-editors-have-been-waiting-for-6rbbh785n

Floisme · 10/10/2025 08:47

That's a poignant interview with Yamamoto, bo. It's sad to get to 82 and be so disillusioned with the thing you've devoted a large portion of your life to. I'm not sure I'd point the finger at fashion alone though - maybe it's the year I've had that makes me see it this way, but pretty much all the creative arts / popular cultures seem to me to be in a deep slump and unable to figure a way out. I know I've retreated into reading the classics and watching old movies on repeat. Still at least I'm still liking what's filtered down to the shops, even if I can't afford to buy much, although I'm hoping to be able to ease up on the purse strings just in time for the Christmas glittery shit to land.

Thanks for the heads up on Rejina Pyo and John Lewis, @Papyrophile I hadn't seen anything about it. I'm not seriously tempted to splash out but the riding boots look lovely, as does that berry colour - it's reminded me of a Boden cardigan I've still got somewhere. My favourite is the brown pleated skirt which I think would look great with a really cheesy Christmas jumper....

Here's an archived link to the Times article: https://archive.ph/EeU8Z

And here's the collection: www.johnlewis.com/search?search-term=regina+pyo&chunk=2

Papyrophile · 10/10/2025 09:03

I will update on the Rejina Pyo colab on Monday @Floisme . I might have bought the pleated brown skirt, and the brown jeans.... I needed a new pair of jeans regardless (as I tend to thrash them) and the brown will work with a lot of stuff I own, including a wrapover ballet cardi-sweater from the current Rise & Fall collection in a dark clay pink which I'm in love with. The pleated skirt ticks a box I hoped to fill last winter with a pleated denim skirt -- that failed to have pockets. My 2025 a/w capsule!

Floisme · 10/10/2025 09:12

Ooh I hope the skirt fulfills its promise, @Papyrophile - please report back!

Redandblue11 · 11/10/2025 11:50

I put the R4 interview with Anderson with no expectations and it hooked me.
I also watched a bit of the Dior show and I enjoyed some of the pieces. I appreciate what they are doing and could see myself in some of their stuff (not me actually buying, but hypothetically see myself in some of it)

I also want to hear about Regina Pyo Papyrophile . The skirt looks good.

Floisme · 12/10/2025 07:02

Oh no, Diane Keaton 💔

This has really pissed me off.

YoshimisMum · 12/10/2025 09:31

Floisme · 12/10/2025 07:02

Oh no, Diane Keaton 💔

This has really pissed me off.

💔 As well as a fantastic actress, to me Diane was an under rated style icon, especially in her later years - absolutely adored her aesthetic. I’ve been following this thread for years, as a lifelong lover of fashion/style, not daring to contribute and from your comments I had a vision of your style being the UK version of DK.

Floisme · 12/10/2025 10:50

What a lovely compliment @YoshimisMum Blush Please post again!

Yep I adored Keaton's style, especially her exuberance and her fearlessness.. She was quite a chameleon too - I know her Annie Hall look always comes to mind first (and quite right too) but she was also a fan of great big pouffy skirts.

Redandblue11 · 12/10/2025 11:31

Yes what a brilliant woman Diane Keaton.
I was just googling images of her and Flo is right a bit of a chamaleon! Also loved the white socks with shoes and skirts she appears with a few times.

I have watched the Victoria Beckham series in Netflix. Anyone else? I like some of the stuff does, I think the series is watchable and I do like her and was good to see a glimpse of how she really is and her struggles.

Redandblue11 · 12/10/2025 11:32

Agree, please post again Yoshimis !

Floisme · 12/10/2025 11:45

No I've not watched it yet Red but thanks for the reminder. I've always had a soft spot for Victoria Beckham.

Papyrophile · 12/10/2025 16:46

It's lovely to have a new voice enter the conversation @YoshimisMum , and welcome.

Also very saddened by reading the news of Diane Keaton's death. Several of my heroes have gone this year, Gene Hackman especially. Robert Redford too. When I read that Jack Nicholson is dead, I will be devastated.

botemp · 12/10/2025 20:30

Not Diane Sad she was really an original, in more ways than one. Probably the only actress who I suspect pushed the stylists into getting her more adventurous things instead of the other way round.

I like the look of the Rejina Pyo collab a lot, the shoes and bags seem really well priced. I'm eyeing some of the shirts, does it usually sell out quick or might there be a chance that there's still some in store a few weeks from now (they don't ship international afaik)?

Also chiming in with the welcomes to Yoshimis, less of the lurking, please Halo

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Floisme · 13/10/2025 10:15

It's so hard to predict, bo. I think that, apart from the really big names, the days of collabs selling out within hours are probably over. But that said, the reversible olive green shirt is already sold out and the shirt with the tie cuffs is ominously described as 'best selling'. Papyrophile's skirt has also gone in a few sizes. But then there will be returns... If you're reasonably flexible about what you want, I'd guess there might well be some bits and pieces left in a few weeks but I don't think I'd bank on finding specific items in the right size

Papyrophile · 13/10/2025 16:11

I think the Rejina Pyo x John Lewis is a first @botemp . I've seen two articles and both said that it was a fairly small scale trial (presumably because Pyo isn't a household name) so quickish action might be needed. I will report in tomorrow as I haven't been over to collect my parcel yet. When I looked at it on launch day, there was a lot of interest showing online.

Papyrophile · 14/10/2025 13:43

All collected and unpacked. Sizing is fairly accurate: I bought the jeans in a 10, and the skirt in a 12, and both fit as I would like (I prefer skirts a little slouchy so they sit lower on the waist). The skirt fabric is a little thin and appears to crease very easily; I'm giving it 24 hours to drop out before I try it on again. Also uncertain about pocket placement, which is unflatteringly at the widest part of the hip. I'm rather expecting to return it, but I'm disappointed even so.

The jeans are better, great colour, pleasant fit and feel, but very very long so will have to be shortened. I miss PapyroJr under such circumstances when I need a visual verdict, so I'll take them to my alterations lady for a second opinion.

Floisme · 14/10/2025 17:47

That sounds a bit disappointing, @Papyrophile I always think a decent pleated skirt (unless it's a summery one) should swing when you walk and, to do that, it needs some weight.

Papyrophile · 15/10/2025 15:02

I have returned it today, with deep regret. The creases didn't drop out at all despite hanging for 18 hours, so just sitting down would have probably caused perma-creases. It was a very nice shape and the material did swing but, as you say, Flo, very disappointing.

Redandblue11 · 19/10/2025 10:19

Oh that is a real shame papyro the skirt looked good. I was looking at some of the jumpers of the collection and the synthetic content put me off to be honest.

I am not planning any purchases at the moment, the only thing might be a pair of black shoes like brogues or similar. But otherwise I am good for autumn/winter.

The only thing that excites me a bit at the moment is all the tartan around. But I have a black and white M&S skirt in tartan and doesn’t get much use to be honest, so I think for me is a case of liking the idea of it more than the reality.

Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 16:50

I've put in orders for loads of clothes in the last month, and more than half has gone back. The last one is practical. A Uniqlo job... a pair of straight leg jeans, a striped shirt from the JWA colab, a red crew neck sweater, and a sweatshirt/joggers

PoppySeedBagelRedux · 19/10/2025 19:03

Redandblue11 · 19/10/2025 10:19

Oh that is a real shame papyro the skirt looked good. I was looking at some of the jumpers of the collection and the synthetic content put me off to be honest.

I am not planning any purchases at the moment, the only thing might be a pair of black shoes like brogues or similar. But otherwise I am good for autumn/winter.

The only thing that excites me a bit at the moment is all the tartan around. But I have a black and white M&S skirt in tartan and doesn’t get much use to be honest, so I think for me is a case of liking the idea of it more than the reality.

I’m surprised at Regina letting that level of quality through.

I still have a gorgeous cashmere cardigan from the first Jil Sander/Uniqlo collaboration- it’s such good quality, and my experience with the Inès La Fressange and Claire Waight Keller have been good. A pleated skirt has to have weight or it looks cheap, and creases should fall out.

I’ve decided I need a brown or good, interesting, beige cardigan. I’ve sent off for 3. And on the basis that if all else fails I can knit one, some yarn. Wish me luck…

Papyrophile · 20/10/2025 09:37

The jeans are very good though @PoppySeedBagelRedux . I am looking forward to wearing them. The % of wool in the skirt wasn't high enough to resist creasing, but the fabric felt good and moved well.

I'd agree that Uniqlo has nailed the quality control in general. There will be stuff that falls short from any company but the Jil Sander stuff was genius. IdlF was pretty good on the strength of a cashmere jersey I've worn out had years, too.

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