Victoria Starmer’s dress

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It’s this:

That's precisely why people do say that about Starmer (and occasionally about Corbyn). Because it's undeniably technically true but it gives a very misleading impression.

I mean, he's a sensible bloke, the two of them have been on good to excellent for a long time and the kids went to state school so he's probably got a very substantial wedge in savings and pension. But he's not Jeremy Hunt "I installed a sprung ballroom floor to help with my ballroom dancing lessons" wealthy.

I hope Victoria Starmer is allowed just to get on and not be judged on what her choice of clothing is. Thankfully we don't have a 'first lady' as the US does.

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Well said. What person wouldn’t make an effort with their dress knowing that they were going to be on the front page of every news outlet in the country.

I think that was the accusation with Corbyn. Starmer's alleged £7.7 million in land is a bit different - a totally spurious figure made up by the Mail and later discredited as total fantasy.

I really liked AM'a dress, it was interesting if you didn't like it. She is in fashion and fashion is by its nature more divisive.
VS's dress was lovely and perfect for the occasion.
I wish the Starmers well, and hope the change we desperately need it this country is finally here.

I think we’re agreeing!

Totally agree. I know plenty of people on less than 50k that would spend that on a dress for a special occasion.

Totally agree. Just shows people have different tastes. Hideous dress.

Isn't it sad that it's a political event and a dress is the focal point....I wonder if his suit is M&S??

This is the S&B board which is probably been contributed on solely by women (all the blokes are on the relationships and sex boards) so I'm really surprised you are surprised.

We are all judged on our appearance every single time we leave the house. That’s the nature of being sentient, other sentient beings make an instantaneous decision on how they should react to you, based on how you look.

I imagine most posters on MN - with access to the internet so probably also access to soap and water, and with some more or less valuable real life connections and relationships, choose to avoid provoking strong negative emotions through their appearance. Most of us spend most days being considered unremarkable - and S&B exists to help people either stay that way or become, for a brief moment, more noticeable. We can choose to arrange our appearance to provoke a strong positive reaction from others. Or we can choose otherwise. I would guess the partners of prominent politicians are well aware of this fact.

Perhaps they have seperate finances mumsnet style and has to buy her own clothes from her own pay.

This is Style and Beauty though where dresses are always discussed so would be the focal point on a thread here, sometimes people may like to buy something similar themselves.

How does that contradict what I said?

I thought it was stunning, I’m so surprised to read how divisive that dress was! I thought it was real wow factor but classic at the same time. If something is high fashion but not really classic or flattering DH usually doesn’t like it but as soon as I saw AM’s dress when she stood outside no10 I said to DH “I love her dress” and he agreed so I’m really surprised to see posters on here don’t like it! VS’s dress was lovely too but not as stand out as AMs.

I find the misogynist attitude which seeks to paint women as shallow and frivolous for taking an interest in fashion sad. Why is it that interests perceived to be more popular with women are aways looked upon with disdain?

I’m interested in politics and fashion - what is wrong with that? I’ve posted on numerous threads on here about the election and politics, I listen to political podcasts like TRIP and the news agents on an almost daily basis.

I also like looking at clothes and getting inspiration for nice outfits from stylish women. Why is that sad?

Isn't it such a cliche though that the men wear red ties and the women red dresses?

(Or blue, or green, or yellow.)

It would be a refreshing change to see politicians' wives buck this silly trend of displaying their loyalty by the colour of their dresses.

She was a City lawyer for years before she (presumably) retrained as an occupational health assessor.

I'm sure they aren't short of a bob or two.

She wasn’t a City lawyer. She worked for a firm called Hodge, Jones & Allen based in Camden which specialises in criminal defence and civil liberties work. They pay nothing like City salaries. Very much a “vocation” legal career choice.

She was a lawyer who worked in the City.

That's a fact.

No it isn’t! The City is the Square Mile where all the major financial institutions are based. Camden Town is not in it.

You’re getting mixed up between “London” and “the City”. Google it.

Actually I would also still describe someone who worked for Clifford Chance (HQ in Canary Wharf) as a “City lawyer”. It’s just a synonym for being a lawyer who has corporate and financial institution clients. Conversely if a firm specialising in human rights law happened to have an office near Liverpool Street I would not describe their solicitors as City Lawyers.

In other words, it’s not really a geographical term at all, it’s a descriptive one which just happens to be derived from the traditional geographical location of financial institutions.

The dress was £275, many women would spend that on a dress for a special occasion, which it was.

Maybe she should have bought a bench instead...

1m in Kentish Town wouldn't get you much at all. 1.5m would get you a modest townhouse at best.

I loved both dresses

Please link Victoria's?

AM's dress looks better on her than the model