Have M&S sizes unofficially changed?!

[Junglejunior]

Or have I put on loads of weight! Bought a size 14 jeggins recently without trying them on and I literally had to chisel them off just now after finally wearing them. I already have several pairs in the same size which seem bigger than the new pair…

I haven't seen a "long" in store for a couple of seasons now.

I have given in and ordered a couple of.pairs of trousers from Boden. Fingers crossed!

I’m 5’6 and I used to be regular length and now I’m short. And even those are sometimes too long.

I’m 5’6” and have to buy long. Regular are flapping above my ankle.

Go figure.

I used the Boden "size checker" tool to find out what I should buy...

I'm consistently a size 12 in M&S and River Island so popped that in and it said this meant I would be a size 16 in Boden!!!

I would say I am pretty overweight and my BMI is unhealthy. I'm a good 3 stone off of slim. When I was a teen, a 12 was fairly slim.

So I definitely think there's been vanity sizing at M&S and it's about right that a 12 in there now is an "old school" 16.

But my vanity wouldn't allow me to buy a 16 from Boden so I ordered at 14.

And it was a bit too big!

Sizing is a nightmare these days.

What I have found recently at M&S is that all of a sudden I ended up having to buy short lengths last year. Their regular trousers and medium tights are more like the old long and large. I'm not "petite" but regular no longer fits.

I have found the opposite,I'm 5ft 10 and have to buy regular length now which is daft as I've always had to buy extra long at Marks before.

I am now completely confused!

@NoOrdinaryMorning my apologies, I meant in store. I often walk through and prefer to be able to see the item, especially trousers, and also feel the fabric. So many I would pick up and buy if they were a long. Based on feedback vis the regular now being longer, I have bought three pairs in the last month. They have all been too short. Perhaps they have been wrongly labelled.

the trousers were black so maybe that’s why they’re so small. I don’t mind what size I need, I just want to be able to buy clothes from a store knowing the size is my size if I’m buying the same product but in a different colour.

I bought some m&s knickers recently. Compared them to the knickers I have from other stores and the M&S ones are much much smaller despite the label size saying they're the same :/

And this is why size 8’s can’t shop there.

The sizing in some items is definitely less generous than it used to be. Particularly trousers.

Same. Not talking about M&S but over Xmas I ordered about £800 of work clothes from Next to try on. Mostly trousers. I'm 5'4 and previously regular has always worked for me. I notice all the trousers now come in regular and petite. Regular is clearly the new long because all but one pair were about 5 inches too long. I re ordered one pair in a petite and even that was a couple of inches longer than I would prefer. Not sure what women closer to 5ft are supposed to do if I'm now petite.

I find the opposite, I can go down a size or two in M&S. The trousers are made for pear shaped while I am not so the hips stick out like jodhpurs on me. I tend stop in H&M and Zara type places and normally take a 12 or 14. In M&S I can be anything from 8 to 12, the 12 mainly as I'm broad shouldered and have a large bust.

Inconsistent. I bought a 3 pack of bras and one was 2cm smaller on the underbust! Staff started to refuse to refund as I had worn the other ones before returning saying they were a set before accepting it was faulty so normal returns rules differ.

@RosesAndHellebores Boden is the only other company where I'm a 12L.
I can only order online from M&S and Boden knowing it's going to be OK. Though haven't ordered any for a few years since my beloved (best work trouser ever) Hampshire bootcut was discontinued.

It’s not just M&S.
I’ve been size 5 for 30 years. Now I have shoes ranging from size 3 ( s Oliver) 4 ( Dunne ) and 6 (Office)

I have no idea what size I am clothes wise. I just have to try on in store ( which I hate ) cos if I buy without trying it means another trip out to return

Black jeans have always sized up small imo. I’ve old jeans from 20 years ago, the black are snug where as the blues I can take on and off still zipped and buttoned

M&S used to spend a lot of time and money on "fit-models" - trying sample clothes on real people before putting them into mass production. My friend used to do it for them. Sounds like that might have fallen by the wayside.

The size 12 jeans I bought from them recently are huge, I've long been a 12-ish but definitely expanded since perimenopause but these jeans have a lot of spare size. Vantity sizing I think.

No, all their gussets are now too narrow. It's the same sort of cheese paring that affects the (unbelievably shallow) pockets in their women's jeans. M&S obviously think very little of their female customers - their men's clothing isn't subject to this shit.

I have received and tried on my Boden trousers.

One structured linen pair, size 16, R length. Absolutely perfect.

One less structured linen pair, size 16, L length. A little too big and far too long.

Sorry to open an old thread, but yes, clothes at M and S are running smaller this year 100%. By one size, I'd say.

I recently bought some trousers from them but I though after the event that I should have bought them a size bigger to deal with my bloating but they definitely fit in the smaller size.

I have the same size from two years ago and this month, and they are definitely different.

M&S are huge. I’m an 8-10 and can’t wear any of their bottoms so wouldn’t mind if they made them standard sizing.

They're not running smaller in my experience or shorter,I'm buying regular length and I'm 5ft 10!