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Has anyone had fillers for jowls and marionettes?

79 replies

SadandSaggy · 18/12/2021 09:42

Getting very down about my marionette lines and jowls. I am 50 and would like to try fillers to look a bit more lifted and refreshed. Has anyone had this done? I am a bit worried about side effects. Those of you who had it done, can you feel your fillers under the skin? I am in London and would also be happy to have recommendations. I am willing to pay good money for someone reputable!

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IsItTooHotInHere · 17/02/2022 21:42

ChickenStripper Actually, my dermal fillers cost £500 more the first time. I've learnt my lesson though.

ChickenStripper · 17/02/2022 22:15

@IsItTooHotInHere

ChickenStripper Actually, my dermal fillers cost £500 more the first time. I've learnt my lesson though.
That's a lot of filler ! Mine cost 230 Pounds from a consultant facial doctor.
Isabelle70 · 17/02/2022 22:35

I had a consultation last month with my doctor that does my Botox and he quoted 6ml of Juverderm for about £1800 and it would be roughly the same each year thereafter. I have decided against it as I would rather have a handbag 😊

LadyNell · 18/02/2022 07:48

I think cheek fillers can be beneficial for this

ChickenStripper · 18/02/2022 12:09

I just checked my doc as haven't had fillers for about 12 - 18 months as they last that length of time and he's now up to 280. I can't believe the price some are charging.

ArabeI · 18/02/2022 12:58

@Isabelle70

6 ml is an awful lot of filler isn't it? How would that be used?

Isabelle70 · 18/02/2022 13:08

@ArabeI it would be cheeks, a bit on the chin as an illusion and a little in the marionette lines. I know it is expensive where I am but that is a lot on money on an annual basis. I might look into some laser treatments instead or just grow old gracefully 😊

OnlyAFleshWound · 18/02/2022 13:17

Honestly every single one of you would look better without doing this to yourselves. Spend the money on something you truly enjoy. It is ALWAYS obvious when it's been done, and it gets worse and worse. There are so many significantly older women walking around now whose faces are really distorted and upsetting to see - I just won't go down that route.

Vaxhubsandwich · 18/02/2022 15:02

@OnlyAFleshWound don't do it if it's not for you.....
Do you get this worked up about hair styles/dyes, waxing, having nails done, tattos, piercings clothes or anything else people do to their appearance?
I often wonder why injectable facial aesthetics get people so cross.

OnlyAFleshWound · 18/02/2022 15:07

[quote Vaxhubsandwich]@OnlyAFleshWound don't do it if it's not for you.....
Do you get this worked up about hair styles/dyes, waxing, having nails done, tattos, piercings clothes or anything else people do to their appearance?
I often wonder why injectable facial aesthetics get people so cross.[/quote]
i was answering the OP's question and giving her my personal take on it as she asked for people's advice.

AgathaX · 18/02/2022 15:38

i was answering the OP's question and giving her my personal take on it as she asked for people's advice

I assume given your view on this that you've not ever had fillers? Nor that you're qualified to inject them? So in this case your advice is a little misplaced since you have no experience of fillers, just that you think you can always tell when someone has them.

ChickenStripper · 18/02/2022 15:45

@OnlyAFleshWound you were NOT answering the OP's question as she was asking about can you feel it etc etc , none of which you are qualified to answer - you were pontificating about something that you don't happen to do . It was such a stupid statement anyway as you have not seen any of us just some randoms on the street.

PandoraP · 18/02/2022 15:49

I had Botox and fillers for marionette lines this week. It is amasing. I feel so happy and no you cannot tell. It’s really subtle and I don’t look frozen and erased at all. Best thing I have done for a long time !!

OnlyAFleshWound · 18/02/2022 15:59

[quote ChickenStripper]@OnlyAFleshWound you were NOT answering the OP's question as she was asking about can you feel it etc etc , none of which you are qualified to answer - you were pontificating about something that you don't happen to do . It was such a stupid statement anyway as you have not seen any of us just some randoms on the street.[/quote]
I've seen the photos on this thread.

OnlyAFleshWound · 18/02/2022 16:02

@AgathaX

i was answering the OP's question and giving her my personal take on it as she asked for people's advice

I assume given your view on this that you've not ever had fillers? Nor that you're qualified to inject them? So in this case your advice is a little misplaced since you have no experience of fillers, just that you think you can always tell when someone has them.

I see a LOT of it around and it always looks awful. It might start off only looking slightly, subtly awful, but it gets worse.

Once people start having it, they keep having it, and they have more and more, and by the time they're in their 60s it has gone horrendously wrong.

The OP is worried, hasn't had it done, and is asking for advice before she starts. My personal advice would be not to start. It is dangerous, expensive and looks terrible. Just because I don't agree with the majority view on the thread doesn't mean I'm not allowed to answer her question.

ArabeI · 18/02/2022 16:08

"Once people start having it, they keep having it, and they have more and more, and by the time they're in their 60s it has gone horrendously wrong."

I'm not being disingenuous, but why has it gone horrendously wrong by their 60s? A bad practitioner? Over filled?

OnlyAFleshWound · 18/02/2022 16:22

@ArabeI

"Once people start having it, they keep having it, and they have more and more, and by the time they're in their 60s it has gone horrendously wrong."

I'm not being disingenuous, but why has it gone horrendously wrong by their 60s? A bad practitioner? Over filled?

I don't think it's a one-off bad practitioner. I think the more you do it, the more it messes up your face. I guess having repeated injections of quite toxic, unpleasant chemicals into your face, under your skin, is going to distort and damage your face.

I just see a LOT of older women around these days who are very clearly casualties of long-term fillers and botox. Some of them are people I know personally and so I know for a fact that they have it done. It's not something that you used to see often at all.

I have friends in their 40s and 50s who start having it and it looks sort of OK (although always a bit odd and artificial and shiny and every single one of them has that weird smooth upper lip/philtrum thing) but as time goes on, it really messes up their features.

The women i know in their 60s/70s/even 80s who haven't had anything done to their faces mostly look absolutely fine, and they still look like themselves. Just older. Because that's what happens.

blueshoes · 18/02/2022 16:53

OnlyAFleshWound is it just botox and fillers or do you feel the same way about cosmetic surgery?

AgathaX · 18/02/2022 17:59

*I see a LOT of it around and it always looks awful. It might start off only looking slightly, subtly awful, but it gets worse.

Once people start having it, they keep having it, and they have more and more, and by the time they're in their 60s it has gone horrendously wrong*

There you go again, the UK expert in badly done fillers. However, the ones you see that look bad are where it's badly done, over done etc. Those who have it done well don't look over done and I very much doubt that you'd know. Of course you're going to say you will, because you don't have experience of seeing those, don't recognise those.

I have friends in their 40s and 50s who start having it and it looks sort of OK (although always a bit odd and artificial and shiny and every single one of them has that weird smooth upper lip/philtrum thing) but as time goes on, it really messes up their features

Proof right there that you don't know what you've talking about. The people with shiny, artificial looking face have generally had too much botox, not fillers. The weird smooth upper lip/philtrum is a result of lip fillers specifically.

So I guess what you're seeing on your 'friends' and the people in your area is overdone botox and lip fillers. There are lots of other areas for fillers. It's been discussed up thread why fillers are not placed in marionette lines or around lips ideally.

Again then, proving that you don't know what you're talking about and have no real advice to give. We all know not to overdo it, not to go to inexperienced, unqualified and unethical practitioners. Some choose to do this anyway and the results speak for themselves. Done well, it's a different look entirely.

OnlyAFleshWound · 18/02/2022 18:18

However, the ones you see that look bad are where it's badly done, over done etc. Those who have it done well don't look over done and I very much doubt that you'd know. Of course you're going to say you will, because you don't have experience of seeing those, don't recognise those...Again then, proving that you don't know what you're talking about and have no real advice to give. We all know not to overdo it, not to go to inexperienced, unqualified and unethical practitioners. Some choose to do this anyway and the results speak for themselves. Done well, it's a different look entirely.

There's a specific photo in this very thread and everyone has said how good it looks. It doesn't. It looks terrible. (I am NOT talking about the lady whose face is very heavily bruised.)

I'm not tagging or replying to that post because I don't want to insult the person who posted it, but it's a specific photo where everyone is saying how great and attractive and natural it looks, and it doesn't. It looks really awful and really fake. That's the kind of thing I am talking about. I can see it a mile off.

I do understand the difference between botox and fillers. I also know that there are many, many women walking around these days whose faces look weird and distorted and awful as a result of one or both of these.

Obviously everyone is free to do whatever they want to their own face. I'm also free to offer the OP my genuine opinion - and I don't need to be 'the UK expert'. There's nothing in it for me - I'm not selling or promoting anything. It's a genuine suggestion that she should maybe think a bit more before embarking on this expensive, damaging road.

ArabeI · 18/02/2022 18:25

I'm afraid it's now obvious which photo you're referring to.

I'm no expert, as I haven't had the filler, personally, but I can't see that it's obvious that person has had filler in her marionette lines.

ChickenStripper · 18/02/2022 18:29

@OnlyAFleshWound

However, the ones you see that look bad are where it's badly done, over done etc. Those who have it done well don't look over done and I very much doubt that you'd know. Of course you're going to say you will, because you don't have experience of seeing those, don't recognise those...Again then, proving that you don't know what you're talking about and have no real advice to give. We all know not to overdo it, not to go to inexperienced, unqualified and unethical practitioners. Some choose to do this anyway and the results speak for themselves. Done well, it's a different look entirely.

There's a specific photo in this very thread and everyone has said how good it looks. It doesn't. It looks terrible. (I am NOT talking about the lady whose face is very heavily bruised.)

I'm not tagging or replying to that post because I don't want to insult the person who posted it, but it's a specific photo where everyone is saying how great and attractive and natural it looks, and it doesn't. It looks really awful and really fake. That's the kind of thing I am talking about. I can see it a mile off.

I do understand the difference between botox and fillers. I also know that there are many, many women walking around these days whose faces look weird and distorted and awful as a result of one or both of these.

Obviously everyone is free to do whatever they want to their own face. I'm also free to offer the OP my genuine opinion - and I don't need to be 'the UK expert'. There's nothing in it for me - I'm not selling or promoting anything. It's a genuine suggestion that she should maybe think a bit more before embarking on this expensive, damaging road.

Well as there are only two photos then it's pretty obvious which one you mean and you are being mean!
ChickenStripper · 18/02/2022 18:30

@OnlyAFleshWound also two photos are not everyone on this thread - TWO.

OnlyAFleshWound · 18/02/2022 18:37

@ChickenStripper @Arabel I'm not tagging or replying to it so hopefully she won't see it. I'm not referencing it to be mean - i only mentioned it because of the repeated insistence that e.g. "you only see it when it's bad" or "you wouldn't be able to see where it's done well" or "you wouldn't recognise it if it's done properly".

This is a specific case where the way it looks to me is clearly at odds with how it looks to others in this thread. And to me it is clearly fake and doesn't look good.

I have lots of tattoos which I'm sure many of you would find ugly and horrible and a waste of money. I understand what it's like to hate the way you look and I respect everyone's right to do whatever they want to their own body. I just wish women (including myself) could come to terms with our appearance and with ageing naturally without these painful, expensive procedures that need to be repeated forever.

Torres10 · 18/02/2022 20:35

In response only to OPs question, yes I have had fillers done.
Was it worth it..yes, though I would say it refreshes as opposed to lifting per se. I went to the cosmetic skin clinic in Stoke Poges, which was expensive but I was scared of issues, and they were fab ( they also have a London clinic I think)
Did it hurt, no though it was uncomfortable I guess, just an odd feeling, as opposed to pain. I had ultherapy once, which was akin to a torture device, fillers were a breeze!
I think its good advice to go to someone reputable, for your own peace of mind, & I would steer clear of lip fillers too as they are super obvious imo!