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Lyma laser

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Iorderedyouapancake · 08/04/2021 12:08

Just been reading about the lyma laser- it sounds amazing but there don’t seem to be many user reviews out there, has anyone on here tried it? If so does it live up to the hype?

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complexsimplicity · 02/08/2022 20:40

Did you order the charger too?

nancy2001 · 02/08/2022 23:44

Yes. I ordered the Nitecore i2 Intellicharger charger, andI received it today. I let one of the new batteries charge on it for a few minutes, and it seemed to work. However it's a much more complicated (and intimidating) charger than the one that comes with the Lyma Laser, so I felt it was important for me to understand the directions before I really started to use it. I found the following review on youtube, which told me what I wanted to know about the charger. And I recommend that everyone who buys one of these i2 chargers watch the video, too.

Here's more information about the batteries that can be used in the Lyma Laser device. The shelf life of the 18650 rechargeable Li-ion battery, regardless of whether you use the battery or not, is ten years. If you do use the battery, you're limited to only 500 recharging cycles.

So if you use the Lyma Laser for an hour or two a day and charge it daily, you will run through its charging cycle life in less than 1.5 years. That means you could expect to go through six or seven batteries in ten years. And here we assume that ten years is the upper limit on the battery's shelf life. However, I understand it's possible to revive "dead" rechargeable batteries. But, as the following video shows, it requires technical equipment, skills and abilities far beyond me:

Unfortunately, the Olight ORB-186S35 battery that I bought is no longer in production, and it's out of stock on some websites. Batteryjunction.com still has these batteries in stock, but I don't know how many they still have. I know Battery Junction ships to the US, Mexico and Canada. I don't know whether they ship to the UK, Australia, or Europe. I also do not know whether other companies produce batteries that would work in the Lyma Laser. I plan to call Batteryjuction tomorrow so I can ask them these question, and I'll report back to you.

nancy2001 · 02/08/2022 23:59

Here's a company that revives dead rechargeable batteries. But the information on their website is limited.

rechargeablepowerenergy.com/pages/battery-service-and-support

nancy2001 · 03/08/2022 00:23

Here's a company that sells a 18650 Li-ion battery that may be compatible with the Lyma Laser. The technical specifications seem to check out. The website states:

"The LiionWholesale Protected 3500mAh battery is made by Liion Wholesale using the INR18650MJ1 battery cell. This MJ1 3500 mAh is an 18650 battery cell that can handle fairly high drain applications (10A) while offering a massive 3500mAh."

liionwholesale.com/products/protected-mj1-18650-battery-genuine-tested-10a-3500mah-button-top-wholesale-discount?variant=12530399684

The seller is based in the US and ships only to the US and Canada.

GBoucher · 03/08/2022 16:16

I think I have found a battery that will ship to the UK: m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001354419123.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart.0.0.132038dari4L3t&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite

It's sold on Aliexpress (kind of like a Chinese version of Amazon for those who haven't used it), and costs £11.49 for one and £20.68 for two. All the technical specs match as far as I can tell (18650 cell, 3.6V, 3500mAh, 12.6Wh, has overcharge protection), but there are no physical dimensions provided. Given that the laser seems to be able to take batteries within a certain size range (like a couple of millimetres either way), I am tempted to just buy one and try it out. If it works, I can buy more.

complexsimplicity · 03/08/2022 19:49

GBoucher · 03/08/2022 16:16

I think I have found a battery that will ship to the UK: m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001354419123.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart.0.0.132038dari4L3t&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite

It's sold on Aliexpress (kind of like a Chinese version of Amazon for those who haven't used it), and costs £11.49 for one and £20.68 for two. All the technical specs match as far as I can tell (18650 cell, 3.6V, 3500mAh, 12.6Wh, has overcharge protection), but there are no physical dimensions provided. Given that the laser seems to be able to take batteries within a certain size range (like a couple of millimetres either way), I am tempted to just buy one and try it out. If it works, I can buy more.

Did you manage to order? Came up as unavailable when I tried...

nancy2001 · 03/08/2022 22:07

I just had a fascinating phone conversation with a sales rep from Battery Junction (batteryjunction.com), and I wanted to tell you everything he and I discussed. By the way, this young man is a former battery specialist for the US military, and he clearly knows everything there is to know about batteries.

The Olight ORB-186S35 18650 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion Battery 3500 mAh 3.6v 12.6Wh 10A battery that can power the Lyma Laser is still in production. Battery Junction now has 78 of these batteries in stock and they have definitely not been discontinued. These batteries are used to power high drain flashlights, and they're very popular.

The shelf life of the battery (measured from the manufacture date, and assuming that the battery has never been used) is approximately ten years. Once you start using the battery, the shelf life starts to drop.

Because lithium batteries are combustible, they cannot be shipped by air and must travel by ground transportation. The only exception would be if you were ordering thousands of batteries and they would have to be specially packed. Otherwise, it is be illegal to transport lithium ion batteries using anything other than ground transportation.

If you order these batteries, you can store them unopened in their package. But if you use the battery you must fully charge it before you store it, otherwise you will shorten the expected life and performance of the battery. This applies to both the replacement batteries and to the original battery that came with the Lyma Laser device.

Lithium batteries can be stored in their charger, but the charge must be unplugged from the electrical socket. Never subject your lithium battery to temperature extremes because doing so can start a fire.

If you think the users of the Lyma Laser are over a barrel when it comes to batteries for our device, consider the poor owners of Elon Musk's Tesla cars. These cars are powered by a set of fourteen hundred 18650 batteries -- not the identical batteries used in the Lyma Laser, but very close. The lowest price Tesla is $35,000. But if something goes wrong with the set of batteries, Tesla won't sell you a new one. You'll have to scrounge around for a new set of 1,400 batteries, and that will cost far more than the $35,000 you paid for the car.

If you live in the US, Mexico, or Canada, I encourage you to order your replacement 18650 batteries from Battery Junction. But everyone can and should take a look at the website's Guide to Battery Care and Upkeep.

www.batteryjunction.com/battery-guide.html

nancy2001 · 03/08/2022 22:15

Incidentally, yesterday's Washington Post published an article on the built in obsolescence of today's battery powered electronic devices. It turns out it's all quite intentional on the part of device manufacturers. Happy reading!

www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/08/02/electronics-death-date/

complexsimplicity · 03/08/2022 22:28

Lyma concierge advised that this battery would do the job: www.batterystation.co.uk/xtar-18650-3-6v-3-7v-led-flashlight-3500mah-rechargeable-battery-1-pack/

Think it looks ok?

nancy2001 · 04/08/2022 01:50

Complex, those Xtar 18650 rechargeable batteries look perfect. I'm so glad that you now have a steady supply. And how reassuring that the Lyma concierge told you all about them. Unfortunately, the vendor doesn't ship outside the UK and the Isle of Man.

Also, the Xtar charger on the left side at the bottom of the page looks exactly like the one that came with the device. The i2 charger I bought does charge the 18650 batteries, but it doesn't charge them completely. But the Xtar Charger, which looks like a dead ringer for the Lyma charger, is definitely the one to buy.

www.batterystation.co.uk/xtar-mc1-plus-ant-portable-usb-battery-charger-set-for-li-ion-batteries/

Amazon doesn't sell the Xtar ANT-MC1 Plus charger, but ebay does. Here's the listing on ebay. Note that the vendor is based in Lithuania but ships to most countries including the US, Canada, UK and Australia. I just ordered one on ebay, and it can take up to one month to arrive. Unfortunately, only one is still in stock.

www.ebay.com/itm/113147520229?epid=8012043651&hash=item1a581e24e5:g:nHcAAOSwfm1bSGQP&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAABIDdkTCIP1ESX%2B3ssoy9hNFYd%2BdBUZz3KWSR2p%2BPKfaVsy3mUPrPDBIqr65fWObGe5KDv1Eh7781272tA%2BqFVqYVIIA%2B0aoRAWdoD%2BC8pDQmjwTz2q0zSsaJmksRhIFELzNoPNipT2IpGWJwAaVXE894wpXxS3sYREdnj17fU%2FjXDpC%2BApwP4Jbp6tO5Bw2%2BAk59JoBc3xVXSKz%2BsHOXxwdlQyt8WvVfEtskPqaUp9GeqN%2FGAq6U8pH9CnGZBZzB9HogoYg3lrjEOLJ9FSUoGaAUs3O1MGpOhZ%2BwiBF2j1tJ4hxw1M2Z9%2FGjpEilqvEkk2%2FhTbWypoq6Xsr7CHc55OBwyc%2BTIjTQbI6olR3sQ6DQb77CWiBPlH5yzzCU2D6XtBg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMmOqa5Mxg

GBoucher · 04/08/2022 02:10

complexsimplicity, yes, I bought one, but apparently it takes ages to ship. The estimated delivery date is October! Seems like you have found another source, though. I will buy from there too. Then I'll have two batteries to compare. Thanks for the find!

GBoucher · 04/08/2022 02:12

nancy2001, thank you for sharing the information. I had no idea lithium batteries took such care to handle. I'm loving this Lyma support group we have going here 👍

yurih · 14/08/2022 01:53

I'm still looking to buy, if anyone is selling feel free to send me a message. Thanks!

yurih · 14/08/2022 01:55

Belindaday · 27/06/2022 13:47

I have a Lyma for sale with all accessories and I am happy to accept half price for it. Hardly used.

Hi Belinda, do you still have yours for sale? Let me know, thanks

Belindaday · 14/08/2022 11:47

Hi Yurih, yes it is still for sale.

complexsimplicity · 14/08/2022 13:42

nancy2001 · 04/08/2022 01:50

Complex, those Xtar 18650 rechargeable batteries look perfect. I'm so glad that you now have a steady supply. And how reassuring that the Lyma concierge told you all about them. Unfortunately, the vendor doesn't ship outside the UK and the Isle of Man.

Also, the Xtar charger on the left side at the bottom of the page looks exactly like the one that came with the device. The i2 charger I bought does charge the 18650 batteries, but it doesn't charge them completely. But the Xtar Charger, which looks like a dead ringer for the Lyma charger, is definitely the one to buy.

www.batterystation.co.uk/xtar-mc1-plus-ant-portable-usb-battery-charger-set-for-li-ion-batteries/

Amazon doesn't sell the Xtar ANT-MC1 Plus charger, but ebay does. Here's the listing on ebay. Note that the vendor is based in Lithuania but ships to most countries including the US, Canada, UK and Australia. I just ordered one on ebay, and it can take up to one month to arrive. Unfortunately, only one is still in stock.

www.ebay.com/itm/113147520229?epid=8012043651&hash=item1a581e24e5:g:nHcAAOSwfm1bSGQP&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAABIDdkTCIP1ESX%2B3ssoy9hNFYd%2BdBUZz3KWSR2p%2BPKfaVsy3mUPrPDBIqr65fWObGe5KDv1Eh7781272tA%2BqFVqYVIIA%2B0aoRAWdoD%2BC8pDQmjwTz2q0zSsaJmksRhIFELzNoPNipT2IpGWJwAaVXE894wpXxS3sYREdnj17fU%2FjXDpC%2BApwP4Jbp6tO5Bw2%2BAk59JoBc3xVXSKz%2BsHOXxwdlQyt8WvVfEtskPqaUp9GeqN%2FGAq6U8pH9CnGZBZzB9HogoYg3lrjEOLJ9FSUoGaAUs3O1MGpOhZ%2BwiBF2j1tJ4hxw1M2Z9%2FGjpEilqvEkk2%2FhTbWypoq6Xsr7CHc55OBwyc%2BTIjTQbI6olR3sQ6DQb77CWiBPlH5yzzCU2D6XtBg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMmOqa5Mxg

They're working a treat! Would recommend...

3BoysOnABike · 13/09/2022 16:14

if anyone else is looking to sell on a lyma laser, please do let me know - love my dermaflex but have heaps of pigmentation after the summer i'd love to shift

roro22 · 02/10/2022 10:35

Mummybear1993 are you still selling?

Jobear2797 · 02/10/2022 12:52

A bit of advice for those that are thinking of buying second hand, if the seller contacts lyma and confirms your details then any remaining guarantee can be transferred to the new owner, plus if the new owner contacts them and explains, Lyma will issue a new customer ID number so they can order new serum and mist .
They also offer anyone using one for the first time, whether new or second hand, a free online video call to walk through the laser and the best techniques to use for your specific skin concerns, which I found very very useful.
Customer service at Lyma so far for me has been second to none, nothing is too much trouble,, so all in all buying second hand can give you the exact same wonderful customer service you’d experience when buying a new one., pretty rare in this day and age. Hope that helps those considering buying second hand. X

SW03 · 22/10/2022 09:03

Hi, are you still selling your Lyma Laser?

Thanks

MJIC · 23/11/2022 15:57

I have a Lyma Laser that I am willing to sell at a discount. I’ve had it since July but realise that I am not dedicated enough to use it daily. It’s in perfect condition. As per some of the comments here, it’s easy to use, but does need to be used daily. The Lyma concierge team are very helpful and there are plenty of Lyma Laser fans on their Facebook page who believe it is working for them. Let me know if you are interested. Many thanks

roro22 · 24/11/2022 01:41

Please id like to buy it off you

SW03 · 24/11/2022 07:17

Hello how much would u sell it for?

MJIC · 24/11/2022 08:42

I’d sell it for £1,000 - that’s 50% off the regular price.

roro22 · 24/11/2022 11:08

Is that delivery included? I’m in Aus