lol at zara swastika bag!

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zara bag

Zara obviously sources it 's materials in India, where it is not offensive.
This is how this happened.
Those people who designhed the bag did not design an offensive bag
We find it offensive in view of European history

What sophable said.

Yes, it's from an ancient Sanskrit symbol Swastika is a compound of su a particle meaning 'auspicious,' 'blessed,' 'virtuous,' 'beautiful,' and 'rightly'; and astika derived from the verb-root as to be; hence 'that which is blessed and excellent.'
also, look at Gammadion, a short-armed swastika, taking its name from the fact that it is composed of four Greek gammas. It was one of the most widely distributed sacred signs. Gammadions appeared on coins?Christians copied it and used it liberally on tombs and catacombs. Like its relative the swastika, the gammadion probably presented the solstices and equinoxes, or the four directions, four elements, and four divine guardians of the world.

i was referring to the fact that lol about zara's incompetance in commisioning a bag from a country in which the swastika is a positive symbol is perfectly fine.

i'm not altogether sure that it isn't a good thing though that many people's total ignorance of the origins of the symbol, which is widely used today in it's original context is being challenged by this news story.

yes and Zara operates stores in the West

so all I can say is either stupid fucking insensitive bastard sellers, or manipulative marketing arseholes

either way it is not something that is amusing

'offensive'. an overused word methinks.

not sellers .. buyers

sophable well if one is offended then offensive is the only word that can be used .. don't you think?

oh fgs twiglett, they made a mistake and have withdrawn it.

it has allowed ignoramuses to learn that hitler certainly didn't have the monopoly on this symbol.

certainly taught me that the swastika had another meaning before the nazis got hold of it.

i am with twiglett

I know that the swastika was hijacked by the Nazis, but does not make seeing it as an adornment any less offensive, in the context of how many people perceive the symbol now.

Sophable, how overused is the word 'dim'?

but half the world still uses it as a positive symbol lulu....so perhaps seeing it in that context (on an obviously ethic bag) is no bad thing. reclaiming the symbol would be a good thing imo

definitely underused in the context of this thread.

am amazed when if the phrase breastfeeding nazi / food nazi used here, there will be protest, but the use of a swastika on an item of clothing is ok>

god, you're always so positive that you're right aren't you .. and yours is the only way to feel

Lulumama, you're right, it's clearly not ok (see my last post)

PARP

in an ideal world, sophable, it would be. but i don;t think that in the context of remembering the holocaust, as there are so few survivors left, that forgetting what that symbol has come to mean, would be a bad thing, IMO.

twig if you'd seen someone with the bag, would you have been offended, or would you ahve been bemused....to see an obviously non NF type bag with that symbol on it. would you have wondered about it? or would you ahve leapt on the person with it accusing them of being a nazi.

i think it's right that they've withdrawn it btw, but I do think that we need to rethink what we associate with this symbol

they say in the article that the swastika was not on the original bag when it was sourced so may be it was a genuine mistake, but silly of shop managers not to notice when displaying.

I agree with sophable, I used to think of all the evil that the symbol represented until DH told me about what it meant prior to Hitler hijacking it.
Would be good if it could be reclaimed as ancient Sanskrit symbol or at least make people aware of it

and you twiglett seem to be in a permanent state of indignancy.

and you twiglett seem to be in a permanent state of indignancy.

were the bags made in India? if they were, they may not think anything odd in the pattern

I quite like the bag

apparently in Germany you could get arrested for carrying this bag (according to Sky so may be completely made up 'fact')

pot kettle black methinks.