A cleanser that actually removes make up

[Rathkelter]

Is there such a thing? Even with my latest Rituals expensive, oil-based one I can see traces of foundation in my pores. Don't want to scrub away at the skin either.
I was told to avoid micellar water as have dry, reddish (not yet rosacea) skin in the chin and cheek areas.
I used Lavera before this and Neals Yard Calendula. Despite the prices, neither gets the make up fully off.
Any ideas?

Blue Nivea.

Another vote here as well for Clinique take the day off balm, literally melts the make up off your face, fantastic stuff!

Uns Brennan vit c is vg. Also love Elemis, Emma Hardie & dermalogica pre cleanse,defo use a flannel. You should change daily but I use for 2 days ok.

Will try rosehip & the squalane. Good cleanser is hard to find. I like a good fragrance though

Another vote for double cleansing. First cleanse with an oil or balm (I too LOVE Superfacialist Vit C oil) to remove make up/soft etc, then a cream or gel cleanser for second cleanse to actually clean your face. Superdrugs Naturally Radiant hot cloth cleanser is lovely and cheap. Yes, use a flannel and water to rinse both off, change every day.

I use oil based cleanser, rinse off with warm water and muslin cloth, then cream cleanser for second one, again rinsed off with cloth. Then toner and it's shifted!
Daisy - absolutely not the same thing! One wash only if you wear foundation etc will never remove it all, the second cleanse is a definite necessity if you wear makeup!

Or, if you like higher end stuff, Emma Hardie Moringa balm, then Oskia Renaissance gel. Both glorious.

Third (fourth?) vote for Clinique take the day off balm!

I’m another double cleanser. I’ve always done it, even before it became a “thing”. Surely it’s just common sense that you need to take off your make up before you can actually wash your skin, otherwise you’re just smearing make up everywhere.

with a gothy past I can confirm that neither oil cleanser nor soap on their own shifts waterproof mascara.
it needs both to be presentable to grandma

For eyes, I use Bodyshop Camomile oil-free eye make-up remover. Hands down it's the best for eyes and fairly cheap. No stinging, and removes my Max Factor mascara very quickly. But I don't buy waterproof mascara.

Double cleansing is important. Especially as we should be using fac50 all year round. An oil cleanser will break down the SPF. Then, a second cleanse to actually clean the skin!

Baby wipes all the way

I use plain old Vaseline to remove eye make up it’s the only thing I can use that doesn’t cause irritation as my eyes are really sensitive, it even works on waterproof mascara

I swear by the camomile butter from body shop.... My going out mascara can usually see me with panda eyes for a few days... This stuff just melts it and the rest away. And no I'm not a rep lol

Another vote for Elemis cleansing balm followed by a face wash, toner, face oil and moisturizer.

And yes to body shop camomile eye makeup remover - I have tried so many, including several that cost a lot more than it does, and it's the only thing that properly removes my daily eyeliner and mascara.

Or, if you like higher end stuff, Emma Hardie Moringa balm, then Oskia Renaissance gel. Both glorious.

Another vote for both of these - the Oskia one is like cleansing your face with Turkish delight.... smells divine.

Another one singing the praises of the body shop camomile cleansing balm, it really does melt everything away with no effort at all...even face paints! I find it works best with their soft cloth (it’s that type that goes hard when it dries).

Simple eye make up remover works for that, and I use either an oil or foam cleanser then remove that with a Ramer soft flannel (the goes hard when dry ones).

wipes don't work for me.
they sting and don't get rid of eye make up. and they leave a slimey residue on my skin.
the flannel does a nice job (and doesn't end up in landfill)

Clinique sell the big TTDO balm pot for £25. I bought mine in Feb and it's still going. Only need a bit. A bigger outlay for a lot less overall.

coconut oil. £1.99 from the supermarket

Oh also a goth here. Lots and lots of black eye makeup and dark lipstick comes right off with a double cleanse.

I really love Eve Lom.

Eve lom

Take off make up with micellar water and separate eye make up remover, then Clinique Take the Day off balm with a warm flannel. Works a treat.