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LK Bennett

104 replies

1moreglassplease · 01/03/2019 14:12

I saw the news at lunchtime that Linda Bennett was potentially calling in administrators. I know there were rumours last year about problems and it appears they were true (big losses). Personally I've never been a fan of the clothes and find them a bit frumpy and overpriced but I'm obviously sad that more people will lose jobs and we lose yet another name from the High Street.

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rightreckoner · 05/03/2019 11:51

Yes Hobbs buttons are dreadful. My £250 coat with signature buttons - one fell off within weeks. No spare included Hmm. The entire coat - which was all about the buttons - basically ruined.

OlennasWimple · 05/03/2019 14:09

Yy to LLB prices shooting up, far past a) the quality of the garments; and b) the budget of their core shopper. I'll spend £200 on a good quality work dress, but not £300+ on polyester

OlennasWimple · 05/03/2019 14:09

*LKB - not LLB

PersonaNonGarter · 05/03/2019 20:25

What do we think of the prospects for Cefinn?

I imagine I am their target audience or thereabouts and I haven’t bought anything from them.

BubblesBuddy · 05/03/2019 21:49

A Chanel handbag for £1000? When? In the dark ages. My 2-55 was £2200 years ago. Anya Hindmarch ceased to be sought after years ago. Mulberry have turned it around but most of their bags are more than £800-£1000 if you want one that’s not a mini.

All of you who complain about price have not really understood fabric prices. Quite a few LKB expensive pieces are silk. Jaeger coats are wool. The notion that they are tat is, frankly, stupid and ill informed. Their cashmere is good quality. M&S have virtually nothing made from a wool fabric these days. It’s because no one will pay for it. People want quality fabrics at Primark prices and you cannot have it. I don’t think Hobbs is tat either.

Some women need a certain polished look for work. I was amazed DDs LKB Chanel lookalike jacket had a matching mini skirt though. She didn’t buy one so opportunity missed for them.

It won’t be long before the high end of the High Street has vanished and all that’s left is Next (who are nothing like the design and quality they were when they started) and Primark with a smattering of shops like Mint Velvet who also don’t use silk or wool. I guess posters think they are over priced too. So no one will sell well made clothes in decent fabrics.

HundredMilesAnHour · 05/03/2019 22:02

Jaeger coats are wool

Not anymore they're not. I searched through racks of their coats and jackets recently and everything is manmade. No wool to be found. Like so many others, they have slashed the quality of their fabrics quite drastically. I used to buy a lot of workwear from Jaeger but the quality and cut is so poor now, and that's before we get into the dullness of the clothes. Such a shame.

Piccolino2 · 05/03/2019 22:18

As I said in the thread earlier I love LK Bennett but I went into my local store on Monday and looked online at the new collection just now, so many lovely things, decent tailoring in good fabrics (not everything but if you pick things out). I know they aren't cheap but those two qualities are almost impossible to find on the high street anymore. I like wearing tailored clothes are really really struggle to find things, especially in colours other than black and grey.

If I wasn't pregnant I'd be doing a crazy shopping spree in the fear that they may be no more! 😢 I keep checking the news to see if there's an update regarding an investor. Keeping my fingers crossed.

PersonaNonGarter · 05/03/2019 22:22

The thing is @bubblesbuddy this isn’t really a complaint about pricing. Posters, including me, are willing to pay proper prices. But they will need more than Oasis quality in return.

Jaeger took a dive because they went so polyester and shabby.

I am happy/keen to pay £££ for good stuff. But the brands get bought exploited and squeezed and the product suffers.

SavageBeauty73 · 05/03/2019 22:46

Not surprised. So expensive for what it is.

StatisticallyChallenged · 05/03/2019 23:05

I do understand fabric prices - I made a lovely cape coat last week in a gorgeously soft cashmere/wool mix, and three new skirts in various pure wool tweeds the week before.

LK Bennett currently have a tweed skirt on their website for £165 that's 41% acrylic, 50% cotton (plus some others). There's another with a similar composition, very simple unlined pencil skirt, for £150. Neither would take more than a metre of fabric to make (and that's for my fat ass!) Yes nice fabrics cost more but in some cases they have gone too far, and the quality isn't good enough to justify the extra cost. That's the problem. There are a couple of dressmakers near me (nice ones with lovely boutiques) who will make a wool blazer for the same prices as an LK Bennett one, and it'll be made to fit.

user1457017537 · 06/03/2019 04:06

I think the recent collection in my local LKB manages to be both garish and Amish at the same time. Quite an achievement.

fancynancyclancy · 06/03/2019 13:39

You really can’t compare the cost of making a dress yourself in nice fabrics to the cost of a store doing it. For one the store has the cost of staff, rent, logistics etc & they have to have some form of profit otherwise what’s the point?

I used to work in fashion & production & manufacturing costs have massively increased over the last decade. It would be incredibly hard for a high street retailer to produce shoes in Spain/Italy today & sell them for £45, now most high street stores will sell PU manufactured in China/Vietnam etc at that price point. Pick up
a patent shoe in Kurt Geiger & it probably won’t be leather.

I love Russell & Bromley, yes they took a long time to get online, stores are a bit dated but they are one of the few remaining good quality shoe shops.

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StatisticallyChallenged · 06/03/2019 14:07

I know you can't compare the costs directly but thank you so much for the patronising response, I had no idea companies tried to make a profit or had overheads Hmm.

I was mentioning it specifically relative to the costs and quality of the fabrics which people had been discussing because, whilst nice materials cost more the difference isn't as large as people who don't buy fabrics might perceive it to be - even buying at retail prices. And many of the apparently nicer fabrics which they are charging a premium for aren't even that nice. That's part of the problem these shops have, they've tried to go too high price wise on the basis of quality when a lot of the time the quality isn't there.

Charging £150-£200 for a skirt that's half man made fibers, unlined and needs less than a metre of fabric is taking the piss. I don't think LKB had a strong enough brand/customer loyalty to get away with the prices they were trying to charge. So many companies do this, reduce quality and increase price and assume people won't notice.

BubblesBuddy · 06/03/2019 16:49

The last time I looked on the Jaeger web site (a few minutes ago) there were absolutely loads of well made wool coats in the sale! I think it is ridiculous to say they do not make them when they patently do.

Introducing man-made mix fabrics usually means a fabric will be more resiliant when worn. It can also introduce textures and sparkle for example. LKB and other stores use fabrics you will not see elsewhere. Their manufacturing runs are smaller. I do not think fabric is why people do not buy. If the design is wrong, then that is a problem. LKB herself came back and introduced styles for "real" women this year. LKB clothes are fairly fitted and keeping customers of varying sizes should have been a priority before now. We do not all want mini skirts to go with jackets. Especially when midi skirts were being sold narly everywhere!

I do not think LKB have reduced quality either. I have bought clothes from them more or less since they started. They were never luxurious in every way. However, they were wearable and did have a certain style. Two suits I have just pulled out from my wardrobe are cotton with some polyester. They are 20 years old. They were never cheap and cheerful. However I do think women are not spending LKB and Jaeger of money now and everyone keeps complaining about value for money. So where do people shop to get this Holy Grail?

Thedarklady · 06/03/2019 17:09

LK Bennett were never cheap of course but their prices have risen considerably. I bought from them up until about 20 months ago. Prices have risen since then and the prices are much higher than a few years ago.

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/03/2019 18:13

What, your office isn't full of women wearing sparkly tweed mini skirts? Pft, so boring! Grin

They do just seem to have gone wrong somewhere. I'd still spend LKB money - but they rarely have something I want. I'd pay £300 for a daywear dress, but it would need be either a good quality classic (the sort of thing I can rarely find for work, very much a head purchase!) or something which is maybe not as good quality, won't last as long but is more of a wow, statement kind of style that I love the look of - a heart purchase I suppose. LKB seems to be lost somewhere in the middle now. I have a couple of work dresses, but in the last couple of years I've ordered and sent back so much. Bad fit, bad fabrics, or stuff that's just "meh" for the cost.

I'm not enjoying fashion much at the moment though, there's so little I want to buy!

rightreckoner · 06/03/2019 19:02

I wonder if it’s something problematic that happens when design led businesses meet private equity.

I have LKB money to spend but often it lacks that extra something. Jaeger used to have some gems but is now boring and generic. Ditto Hobbs. I used to rely on these shops because they were quality and interesting but also aimed at me (ie not Prada - not size 6 and ludicrous). I don’t know where to shop now.

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/03/2019 19:32

I do think that's an issue - it seems to lead to some sort of death of a thousand cuts. Quality slowly creeps down, design loses its edge, service slides...it's never one single big thing, more a sense that everything is being engineered to squeeze out pennies.

MrsArcher23 · 07/03/2019 10:02

I see that the LK Bennett website is ‘currently experiencing issues’ and is offline. More IT problems or have they shut down the website ??

MarshaBradyo · 07/03/2019 10:06

It is expensive and does seem hard for fashion brands to make a profit. Even the high end ones need investment more than you’d imagine.

Reiss and French Connection seem similar no idea how they’re doing however

ChristineBaskets · 07/03/2019 10:26

I'm very concerned about this; I had planned to wear one of their Montana dresses to my son's wedding this summer, but now I can't find one in stock Sad

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 07/03/2019 10:37

Statistically, where are you buying your fabric? I live near Edinburgh and have started to make some things (well, one black linen skirt and I've cut out a jersey wrap top), and I've tried the fabric shop on South Clerk St, and one down in Leith in a big warehouse. Any tips for other fabric shops? I'm too scared to try very expensive fabric yet!

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/03/2019 11:00

There's not a great selection in Edinburgh tbh - the two you've hit are about the best (Edinburgh Fabrics and the Cloth Shop.) There's also Fabric Focus (think it might have changed names) beside Broughton Primary school but it's quite expensive although they have some lovely stuff.

I like fabworks mill (online) - you do have to pay for samples but they have a lovely selection and I've not had a duff fabric from them. They make the fabrics for Avoca, amongst others. I've bought wools of all varieties, cottons (including denim) and jerseys from them. There's a few good ebay sellers too.

If you're new to it I like the Gertie Sews books. I have the dresses and the vintage casual ones and with a bit of imagination the patterns are great flexible basics.

StellaRockafella · 07/03/2019 12:44

Hopefully the website is down due to high traffic numbers rather than anything else.

Was reading an interesting article about how even the high end brands have had to streamline their offering and now produce far more bland items heavily branded with logos than ever before. You just have to look at the sameness of most designer handbags to see this. I find most totally uninspiring. This has really reduced the diversity offered and something that's definitely trickled down to the high street in as much as there's more variety than ever of stores but most seem to offer variations on the same thing. This make shopping for clothes pretty boring and really quite hard.

beanaseireann Where do I regard as having reasonable prices and good quality? That's the $64,000 question and one without a decent explanation.

I don’t really follow fashion and wear variations of the same things, some of which are worn way more than others. If something is going to be worn lots I can justify spending more for it because I know the cost per wear will be low.

I buy a lot from consignment stores/websites and ebay. I mostly buy things I've tried on at full price and waited for them to appear online. So, brands like Joseph, YMC, Folk, APC, COS, Raey, Equipment, and few American brands that I know are made in small production runs. I used to like Iris & Ink (The Outnet's own brand) but their quality in both their design and product has fallen massively since Yoox bought them out. COS was my wardrobe staple but their quality and design hasn't been great for the past few years but they seem to be improving again. I also like HM's conscious line. HM do a lot of natural fibres so that's been a godsend at times and I do find most of their things wear very well. Despite their love of french polyester, I do find Whistles good for 100% cotton t-shirts and they’re often discounted.

Shoes I’m finding trickier to buy as there’s very few styles I actually like and they have to be 100% leather (including insole and sole).

I think that you get to a certain age where you own more than you need, so shopping becomes about filling the odd gap or for something that really speaks to you. I think this makes it easier to be more discerning and able to restrict how you shop.

So apologies if this doesn’t really answer your question but it’s something I’m constantly asking myself too.

As a whole, I think the whole fashion/clothes model is totally broken, and globalisation and the internet has had a lot to do with it.

BubblesBuddy A Chanel handbag would have cost £1000 in the early-mid 2000s. I remember my mother buying a 2.55 in the 90s for £850, and can clearly recall being with her in their Sloane Street store while she counted out the cash! Chanel started increasing their prices by 4-6% a year in the mid-2000s.

StellaRockafella · 07/03/2019 12:48

Apologies, my Chanel comment was also meant for 1moreglassplease and not BubblesBuddy

£1000 in Chanel will buy a wallet and that's just a wallet and not a WOC (wallet on a chain!)

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