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suncream for all day every day.

33 replies

OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/03/2018 23:23

For medical reasons I've been told I should be wearing suncream all the time that my skin is exposed to sun. I'm only used to using suncream if I'm going to be out in strong sunlight for a while.

It sounds like a massive ball ache. I don't even know where to start. If I could apply it like a moisturizer at the beginning of the day and forget about it, it would be fine. I'd appreciate advise please.

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tigerrun · 09/03/2018 23:25

There are tons of standard moisturisers with spf15 in - would they do, or do you need a higher spf?

GrowThroughWhatYouGoThrough · 09/03/2018 23:31

Riemann p20 brilliant all day one

unintentionalthreadkiller · 09/03/2018 23:36

P20.

TooManyWIPs · 09/03/2018 23:38

Ultrasun it's a once a day one too, different spf's to choose from (15-50). I use the sports 50 spray as it easy to do 1st thing before dressing. They also do facecreams (haven't tried them yet though). Can buy online or in m&s.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/03/2018 23:41

I wasn't told what spf. I know it needs to cover uva and uvb. I have a lot of sun damage due to uv therapy (psoriasis) and have had to have recent treatment because of this. I'm also now on immunosuppressants. I wish I'd asked, I must ask at my next appointment.

If I used a moisturiser with spf 15 would that last all day for general in and out of the house, then maybe top it up with something more if I'm going to be out for longer, do you think that would be ok?

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JaneJeffer · 09/03/2018 23:49

Wayne Goss (skincare guy on YouTube) said applying it once is fine if you're not lying out in the sun.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/03/2018 23:49

I'll have a look at both, and maybe see if I can get little samples to see how they settle on my skin. Thanks :)

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KichenDancefloor · 09/03/2018 23:52

I'm also looking after being advised to wear spf 25+ all day, every day. I have had pre-cancerous skin cells removed so I need to take this seriously!

I've tried lots but either they leave a white cast on my skin or cause me to break out with spots or irritated skin. I hate the feel of anything claggy.

I'm going to try this come next pay day
m.feelunique.com/p/NIOD-Survival-30-30ml
Has anyone tried it and is it worth the money?

I'd be in

NameChangeOnTheRegular · 10/03/2018 00:06

I actually wouldn't use a moisturiser with SPF 15 or whatever in, if you need sun protection. When you apply a moisturiser you're only really applying a relatively small amount, and spreading it finely over the face so you aren't getting the fullest SPF coverage it would offer and 15 isn't that high. I would use a separate product, and go for factor 30.

I'm not an expert by any means but I have melasma and wear SPF year round, so have tried a few and done a fair amount of reading on it...

I actually use factor 50 and I use the Body Shop one. It's excellent, doesn't feel thick, turn your face bright white and it sits fine under makeup, I really like it. Other 'city' suncreams I like are Clinique City Block and La Roche Posay anthelios. None of them are too thick, and are great for day-to-day.

NameChangeOnTheRegular · 10/03/2018 00:09

I also have an SPF spray that I use to top up if I'm out of the house a bit longer, again factor 50...

Foggymist · 10/03/2018 00:13

I use La Roche Posay SPF 50 every day, very light, dries quickly for under make up etc.

TooManyWIPs · 10/03/2018 00:15

Might have a look at that body shop one next time I'm there as although happy with ultrasun on body think I need something different on face.

OlennasWimple · 10/03/2018 00:23

I love Clinique City Block for facial sun screen

tulipz · 10/03/2018 00:29

i love Ultrasun, they have loads of different ones. If you order from qvc you have a 30 day money back guarantee

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 10/03/2018 08:12

actually, I've had an idea. Why don't we ask mn if they could approach some manufacturers on our behalf to see if free samples of different kinds could be arranged?

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hettie · 10/03/2018 09:05

I layer Laura Mercier primer (high uva and uvb) and their tinted moisturiser (also uva and uvb). That way I get sufficient dosage

ProperLavs · 10/03/2018 09:06

I wear ultrasound spf 50 everyday of the year. It's brilliant stuff. I have a huge bottle of the stuff, expensive but worth it.

ProperLavs · 10/03/2018 09:07

ultrasun not ultrasound!

gnatgnu · 10/03/2018 09:08

Another vote for ultra sun - I have the face one (spf 30) which I use as a base layer daily.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 10/03/2018 09:23

That does bring me on to a question. If I am layering, which way round should I layer? suncream first or moisturiser first? does one not dilute the other?

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ChishandFips33 · 10/03/2018 09:24

I use La Roche Posay SPF 50 every day, very light, dries quickly for under make up etc.

Ditto this

JDSTER · 10/03/2018 09:53

Badkitten being on immunosuppressants means you are at much higher risk of skin cancer. It is essential to wear a sunscreen that has sufficient UVA and UVB protection. SPF in makeup, moisturisers etc absolutely is not enough.

I would recommend La Roche Posay. They are a brand that is highly recommended by dermatologists and have documented evidence of their sun protection. It’s also easily available on- line and in Boots. You need to apply about half a teaspoon on your face, which seems a lot, but if you don’t use enough you won’t get the proper protection. If you’re out in the sun or on holiday, you should reapply every 2-3 hours. On work days or days when you’re indoors a morning application should be enough. LaRoche posay also sell a spray on spf for facial use which you could top up with if you pop out and can be used over makeup.

As a rule you should seek shade from the sun at all times, definitely never sunbathe and wear a hat and sunglasses.
Sorry if that sounds very prescriptive but in your case, it’s essential.

JDSTER · 10/03/2018 10:00

Just seen your question about layering badkitten. Moisturiser first, after cleansing, wait maybe 10 minutes while you do something else, then apply SPF. I usually wait another 10 mins after that then apply makeup. If your skin is oilier, you might get away with no moisturiser and just use the SPF. I should’ve also said SPF 50 for you everyday. Even when it’s not sunny UVA rays are present.

kitchendancefloor same advice for you, given your history too. I would step away from NIOD and look to La Roche Posay as well, a highly respected and researched brand that will give you the protection you need.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 10/03/2018 10:05

JDSTER - thank you so much, that's exactly the advice I needed. I'll follow that down to a tee.

My dermatologist said 'of course you are wearing sunscreen' and I was too embarrassed to say that I wasn't because I've relied on uv as a main treatment, having had lots of light therapy prescribed in the past and various doctors telling me to get out in the sun.

It's massively biting me in the bum now, with nicely blistering patches following treatment for AK. :(

I guess I should take vit d year round, rather than just during the winter.

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PragmaticWench · 10/03/2018 10:05

I've recently stopped using a moisturiser at all as my sunscreen seems to be enough on its own, so you may find you don't need a moisturiser as well.

I use Biore Watery Essence as it isn't oily and doesn't leave a white colour on my skin like some sun screens do. It's also high in uva and uvb coverage.