'Avoid the sun' and 'Always wear a high factor SPF'....

[Ilovespringandchocolate]

...Except what happens when you go on holiday for some sun? And when it's summer in the U.K.?

I have worn mositurisers with SPF in for years now (I'm 30) every day so I'd pretty much say I have some form of Sun protection on everyday, however, when I go on holiday I love getting a tan! I wear SPF 25-30 most days and do still tan and tend to wear an SPF 15-25 on face.

I love tanning my face because I look a hell of a lot freshener, brighter and healthier when I have a sunkissed glow on my face, yet at the same time I hate the thought of aging and getting wrinkles.

So...what do I do? Do people that are really strict with the 'No sun and always wear SPF' rule ever sunbathe on holiday or get any sun on their face?

I guess I'm feeling a bit guilty really because I go on holiday next week and am looking forward to getting a sun kissed face and limbs and just looking a bit healthy....but am now thinking do I just sit under the shade with a massive hat and sunglasses a week and avoid the sun?!

I wear high factor sun protection if the UV index is higher than 3-4. I stay in the shade during the hottest hours and use lots of fake tan. Especially my face and neck. Used properly, you won't end up looking like Trump.

I agree, but then smoking isn't natural. The sun is. Its not natural to wear sun cream
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Are there any body lotions about with SPF in them? I use a face moisturiser with SPF (15 in winter, 30 in summer) but I'd like a whole body one. Sun cream isn't usually moisturising.

I wear sof50 on my face all year round, with a SkinCeuticals CE Ferulic on for added protection. Don't bother much with my body unless on holiday, not that bothered about ageing there. I'm 36 with no lines or wrinkles

I also use Heliocare. I do believe it's the best, soaks in great, no residue

I agree, but then smoking isn't natural. The sun is. It's not natural to wear sun cream
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Cannot remember if I have already commented.
I think sun cream provides a false sense of security so many people spend longer exposing their skin.
A bit of sun cream and a hat is good but the midday sun shouldn't be something we should sit basking in and thinking spf will save our skin.
I would hazard a guess it is responsible for some overexposure to the sun.

I have always worn a hat and made my children wear one, along with sunscreen and a wetsuit when surfing. My 35-year old daughter has the most exquisite rose-petal skin...but she also has low Vit D levels. I look a heck of a lot younger than friends/rellies of the same age (66), but I think it has a lot to do with genes and luck and well as being careful in the sun.

I wear spf 50 year round even when indoors. But my issue is I can't put it around my eyes or it causes severe stinging and burning. It's horrible. This has happened with every spf I have tried. Does anyone have an spf recommendation for around the eyes?

whirltime i have polymorphic light eruption, avoid the sun and had a vit d deficiency. I use a vit d spray now and levels are normal

Tanning makes leather. Yes, you need some UV but lying in direct sun for hours like toast on a rack is obviously daft.

Air temperature irrelevant - that piece of stupidity is why so many get burnt in April in the UK.

I am pushing 50 and when I was growing up it was encouraged to get a sun tan/burn. We didn't even have any sunscreens (or if there were I didn't see any one using them). I then hit teens in the 80s and the craze of hiring a sunbed for use at home. i spent a long time on those things.

Now my skin is not as bad as it could be - am getting a bit crepey onthe neck/decollete . Also have lots of moles/age spots/white patches where the skin has lost pigment due to overexposure to the sun.

I no longer 'sunbathe' as it's boring, and I don't feel the need to tan my midriff. I do like to wear light cotton dresses - sitting in the shade quite often but a bit of sun on my face makes me feel infinitely better.

I would never dream of wearing sun cream in the UK, in fact I have just had a lovely walk in the sun, I love feeling it on my face. I do however put a bit on when I go to Cyrus, it is hot there in July.

Human evolved with the sun and we are meant to live an outdoor life, not shut away slathered in chemicals. The sunlight's action on our retina produces feel good brain chemicals. The action on our skin produces vitamin D and nitric oxide which is good for our cardiovascular systems. ( I have suffered from a severe vitamin D deficiency and coronary artery spasm in the past) so make a point now of trying to get out and about in the daylight more.

We were also meant to have an ozone layer and I don't think humans were designed to fly across the world and lie in the sun for hours - which is what this thread is chiefly about.

In most parts of the world and for most of human history you would have been unlikely to have a life expectancy above 40, so skin cancer in later middle age would not have been a pressing concern!

Too much sun on the retina gives you a higher chance of macular degeneration. Cave men died at 30 and didn't need to worry about that.

Air temperature is irrelevant to sun strength. Did anybody pay any attention at school?

When I was at school we were all too busy working on our tans to pay attention😆
(but now I know better!)