'Avoid the sun' and 'Always wear a high factor SPF'....

[Ilovespringandchocolate]

...Except what happens when you go on holiday for some sun? And when it's summer in the U.K.?

I have worn mositurisers with SPF in for years now (I'm 30) every day so I'd pretty much say I have some form of Sun protection on everyday, however, when I go on holiday I love getting a tan! I wear SPF 25-30 most days and do still tan and tend to wear an SPF 15-25 on face.

I love tanning my face because I look a hell of a lot freshener, brighter and healthier when I have a sunkissed glow on my face, yet at the same time I hate the thought of aging and getting wrinkles.

So...what do I do? Do people that are really strict with the 'No sun and always wear SPF' rule ever sunbathe on holiday or get any sun on their face?

I guess I'm feeling a bit guilty really because I go on holiday next week and am looking forward to getting a sun kissed face and limbs and just looking a bit healthy....but am now thinking do I just sit under the shade with a massive hat and sunglasses a week and avoid the sun?!

have a look at this

www.trinny.london/my-secret-7-spf-products-11/

I am now using the Heliocare 360 recommended here - so far so good I put it on instead of primer and its not too greasy

La Roche-Posay Anthelios facial sunscreen is SPF50 and very light, plus there's a tinted version. I also like Neutrogena ones from the US or Amazon.

I don't put my face in the sun and use gradual tanning drops in my moisturiser in the summer, from Clarins or Tan Luxe.

Fake tan and factor 50.

I don't avoid the sun completely - I love lounging in an outdoor pool or going for a walk in the sun on holiday - but I don't 'sunbathe' and sit in the shade at the beach or around the pool.

My sister is a holiday sun worshipper and in our late 30s/early 40s, its starting to show...

Tanned skin is damaged skin. I never sunbathe and I always cover up, even on holiday. That's not just vanity either - I'm fair skinned and prone to moles and in no hurry for either radiotherapy or death.

James I use Ultrasun face, mainly because I have sensitive skin. It doesn't strike me as particularly greasy but then my skin is dry-ish so I might not notice.

Use Garnier BB cream which is like a tinted moisturiser. I also use City Block by Clinique which is factor 40 and a great primer for make up,it's also fine on it's own after moisturiser.

Thanks for the recommendations, I'll have a little look.

I was watching Lisa Eldridge video on sunscreen and apparently an eminent dermatologist advised that the difference in protection between a factor 30 and a 50 is minor but you are subjecting your skin to much more chemicals with the factor 50. So if you have sensitive skin avoid using more chemicals than needed as these can aggravate dry skin and rosacea.

do all factor 50s leave a pale screen on your skin? I have to avoid them because of the ghostly look. Plus how do you manage the reapplication of sun screen and foundation when on the go, as you need to top it up ever so often for sufficient SPF?

I feel like we are so poorly informed about sun screen in the uk, whereas my US relations are well informed. And when holidaying in SA and Australia, I appreciated that even people of colour were in the ads and infomercials, indicating that all skins needed SPF.

I still tan through the spf. I dont burn. I have sallow skin though.

I wear factor 50 daily.

I try not to tan, wear SPF moisturiser and don't smile most of the year, but there's always a point where I go 'do you know what I look good tanned' and start lying about in the sun hating that I can't be nude in public parks.

People do say I look young for my age, but I also have low vitamin d ..go figure!

I also sunbathe with a towel over my face sometimes.. it always occurs to me the one could tan ones body and then fill face with equivalent make up...

Ok but smiling has no known health risks

teaaddict the heliocare 360 is actually a tiny bit tinted - no pale cast at all

SPF cream formulations have improved a lot over the years so less chance of the ghost effect!

Factor 50 is the standard in Oz. You can buy huge 1 litre buckets of it for $15 (about 10 quid?). Its true there isn't much difference between Factor 30 and 50 though. You can get lower factors here but they tend to be more expensive. Its a good job its cheap here really, we go through tons of it!

I've been generally careful about staying out of the sun and wearing SPF over the years. I have a friend who loves getting tanned and now we're both in our late 30s you can definitely tell the difference, as she has lots of fine lines around her eyes whereas I have none.

DH's granny lives in Italy and sits out in the afternoon sun every day. She's in her late 80s and has wrinkles on her wrinkles it's shocking. She recently had to have surgery for melanoma and told the Dr she couldn't make the appointment he was offering as she'd planned to go to the seaside 😀

thanks homeby, I'll look into it!

I have always been careful with my face, spf everyday, hat and glasses at all times on holiday and high spf.
But I love being in the sun and do tan very easily. I have been a bit more lax with my body and the nature of my skin means I do have a bit of a year round tan without even trying. Sure it will come back to bite meat some point but at least my face will Look young.

Oh and I wear cityblock factor 25 daily. Love it. It works as an ok moisturiser if you have a good serum. I don't like to wear chemical sunscreens as I have sensitive skin prepared to sacrifice a bit of spf to avoid the white caste.
I have found a mineral sunscreen that is higher that isn't to bad - skinceuticals mineral radiance uv defence spf 50 - universal tint. So wearing that on days I am out in the sun a lot.

Not burning is one thing.

Avoiding the sun entirely for fear of looking my age?

Nah.

I'd rather look my age and enjoy myself.

My gran on my dad's side was a total sun worshipper. She lived in Cornwall, swam in the sea every day including Christmas Day and my abiding memory of her is her sitting with her face up to the sun like a flower or snoozing in the sun. My other grandma avoided the sun but she was a smoker. They were both wrinkly in their 70s and 80s. Both lived to 99. Both dead now.

I love the sun. I'm not too bothered about being wrinkly as I can't see it most of the time. Its other people who have to look at me. I love having a warm glow of a tan. I'm in favour of living your life to enjoy yourself and not overly stressing about such matters.

I love tanning my face because I look a hell of a lot freshener, brighter and healthier when I have a sunkissed glow on my face, yet at the same time I hate the thought of aging and getting wrinkles
so want want to have your cake and eat your cake?

if you want to avoid sun damaged skin then you have to avoid sun damaged skin ie tanning

Some people just tan easier than others. I actually dislike sitting in direct sunlight and always avoid it as it feels uncomfortable (too hot like my skin is burning). I also always use high SPF. When I go to hot countries I avoid going out between 12 and 3 and sit in the shade whenever possible outside those times. I also wear sun tan lotion. I still get a tan (usually a light one but Def a tan)
As soon as the sun shines in the UK, three days of walking to work (30 mins each way) and I get a tan line round my collar and short sleeves despite wearing spf of 30+. I would have to never go out to avoid a tan when it is sunny.

A tan is not healthy. This isn't just about wrinkles.