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Face care at 50 to Botox or not to botox that is the question....

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user1483699375 · 24/04/2017 13:18

Hello girls
What to do?? Having looked pretty good on minimum input all these years I am now finding myself more than a little fed up with bloody annoying lines on my face. The ones from my nose to my mouth are the worst, very aging (having just seen some awful photos recently taken - very depressing). Also, I spend a lot of time working outside which I love, but feel I am now looking less sun-kissed and more weather beaten. I have no idea where to start when faced with a menu of choices at the vanity parlour, I'm open minded to anything right up to a full sandpaper and face lift but would love some advice from those of a similar age who have already tried these things (ps I'll post on Gransnet as well to capture the right age group TIA

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squoosh · 27/04/2017 14:42

She was pretty old though. And no amount of botox of fillers is going to make an elderly woman look like she's in her forties.

LightYears · 27/04/2017 14:43

Can you seriously not see the beauty in that woman's face MissMuppets

I'm just going to leave this last quote here, then I'll leave you all to it.

Face care at 50 to Botox or not to botox that is the question....

LightYears · 27/04/2017 14:46

Sorry, can't resist, one more.

MissMuppets · 27/04/2017 14:47

Gawd, I thought this was S&B not a lecture on philosophy

She had good bone structure. She look(ed) old in the photo. I don't think she is / was beautiful, no. If you do, fine, I won't argue.

I don't think sanctimonious quotes about the privilege of being alive are really the point in this thread.

One could argue we have a right to look as good as we can by whatever means there are available for as long as we are alive.

AgathaF · 27/04/2017 14:49

LightYears I'm glad you're happy to not have minor help to look and therefore feel better. It's a bit off coming on a thread like this though telling people their faces are going to melt. Each to his or her own and all that. It's not the getting older I mind, of course that is a privilege and far, far better than the alternative, but I'd like to do it in my own way, without being judged by people like you who don't know me.

squoosh · 27/04/2017 14:51

People definitely have the right to do whatever they want to do to their bodies. But what puts me off is that someone like Madonna who has all the cash and all the contacts in the world just ends up looking really odd.

AgathaF · 27/04/2017 14:55

She's an extreme example though squoosh. It's like the women who work on make-up counters who are plastered in make-up. It's probably done for harsh lighting and as a requirement for the job. It's not a look I'd want to go for, but it doesn't put me off wearing make-up though.

It's all about moderation and individual taste.

LightYears · 27/04/2017 14:59

Sorry if I've touched a nerve.
I'd like to do it in my own way You'll not have much choice in the matter, Botox and the likes will do little in the long run, will make things worse in the end. It's just putting off the inevitable, best to embrace it.

squoosh · 27/04/2017 15:00

Poor Madonna probably doesn't have a friend brave enough to say 'maybe take a break from the fillers for a while Madge.'

MissMuppets · 27/04/2017 15:18

You'll not have much choice in the matter, Botox and the likes will do little in the long run, will make things worse in the end. It's just putting off the inevitable, best to embrace it

For someone who eschews it all, you have an awful lot of advice about it. How the hell do you know it will make things worse? What's that supposed to mean?

The best effects are the ones that other people can't see; they say 'you look well'.

Pop over to AIBU if you feel like a bun fight.

LightYears · 27/04/2017 15:49

The best effects are the ones that other people can't see; they say 'you look well'. Wonder why the people in Hollywood haven't figured that one out then, seeing as they're at the centre of it all, with the best surgeons and endless supply of funds.

AgathaF · 27/04/2017 16:02

LightYear it's not that you've "touched a nerve". I just object to people offering their unpleasant and unasked for judgements on something that doesn't concern them.

And this You'll not have much choice in the matter, Botox and the likes will do little in the long run, will make things worse in the end. It's just putting off the inevitable, best to embrace it. - really, why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself? Unless you have a vast amount of expertise in this area (which I'm sure you don't) then your opinion is worth no more and no less than anyone else's.

I think you're right there squoosh .

LightYears · 27/04/2017 16:11

why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself? back atcha.

MissMuppets · 27/04/2017 16:18

The reason that some Hollywood stars look 'overdone' is precisely because they have unlimited money and less than scrupulous surgeons who are happy to take their money. The desire to look young in California is at a whole different level to the minor tweaks and underdone level in the UK. You can't compare Hollywood 'stars' with women in the UK who just want a minor tweak or two.

There is always someone who comes onto these threads to start an argument over the rights and wrongs of a bit of filler etc. Maybe they are jealous women can afford it, have too much time on their hands, are bored or whatever...but it's an odd way to spend your time , starting bun fights.

AgathaF · 27/04/2017 16:20

Oh dear!

AgathaF · 27/04/2017 16:21

X post, that wasn't aimed at you MissMuppets.

Newtssuitcase · 27/04/2017 16:23

Odd that you chose to post on this thread lightyears I'm assuming you never get your hair cut, buy flattering clothes or wear a bit of make up.

The treatments we are discussing are temporary fixes just like a new haircut.

And actually some of them do make a long term difference. Botox prevents wrinkles from forming. You are just pressing the pause button of course but many of us quite like pressing that pause button. I have now had very good botox for six years. I have no more wrinkles today than I did then because by virtue of having the botox, no more wrinkles get the chance to form. I have pressed the pause button.

If I stop having the botox yes they will start to form again.

LightYears · 27/04/2017 16:50

Maybe they are jealous women can afford it, have too much time on their hands, are bored or whatever...but it's an odd way to spend your time. None of these things, I just see more important things in a person than their looks.

Jojoanna · 27/04/2017 17:05

I have had Botox for years in a very deep line between my eyes. It makes me look a lot less cross . The line is barely noticeable now

MissMuppets · 27/04/2017 17:06

None of these things, I just see more important things in a person than their looks.

So why are you on Style and Beauty? What value are your posts adding?

Just to be goady? And get attention perhaps.

buggerthebotox · 27/04/2017 17:08

I've had Botox and fillers about 6 years ago. I thought I looked odd with the fillers; kind of puffed up. The first dose of Botox left me looking Spocky; heavy brow, weird eyebrows, stiff forehead. The second dose was better.

My best treatment so far has been Genie-a bit like Caci. It actually works, and the muscles lift. It's a bit high maintenance and expensive (800) but I'd definitely have it again if I could justify it. There's a video of it on youtube.

Meanwhile, I'm still using my Oralift mouthpiece regularly. That works too, I think. I definitely look more alert. Jowls are my main issue; my skin is ok-ish.

Oh, and I use a sanding block on my face- the kind of thing you'd use to smooth furniture. Who needs microdermabrasion? .

Chippednailvarnishing · 27/04/2017 17:08

Ignoring the newly joined troll, lets not derail an informative thread.

I was also looking at derma roller on my face as I've always had problem skin and wondered if it would improve my skin tone?

buggerthebotox · 27/04/2017 17:12

I don't think it's an odd way to spend one's time. Or money. I love fiddling with myself; always have.

LightYears · 27/04/2017 17:24

I'll let you have the last word.

Newtssuitcase · 27/04/2017 17:44

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