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Ditch The Foundation, Embrace Some Fantastic Skincare Instead!

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botemp · 29/01/2017 08:36

Thread 1

Thread 2

Thread 3

Thread 4

For those who are taking a peek and wondering whether thread 1,2, 3, and 4 are worth reading, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients for our particular needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Deviations on this thread are mostly my fault. Grin

If you're in need of some advice coming to grips with your skincare routine please don't hesitate to ask, we don't bite, only occasionally sting with a bit of Biologique Recherche P50 now and then Wink. Just make sure to state clearly what your concerns and needs are in as much detail as possible, skincare is highly individual and a random recommendation for a 'good' product will be completely different from one person to the next.

Make sure you've read the earlier threads (or at the very least the first one) so we're not being asked to answer to previously raised questions. It takes a lot of time and effort to answer these queries and often the answers can be found in previous threads, but if you still have questions relating specifically to you, use the following form to make life easier on us. We generally answer one or to two people a day on a first come first served basis. Not everyone will have answers and sometimes we can't answer you at all. We're only a bunch of amateurs that can respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

Skin type:

Approx age (range):

Primary skin concern:

Routine :

AM :

PM :

Makeup : eg. no/light coverage/medium coverage/heavy coverage

Occasional treatments:

Things I've tried in the past with disastrous results:

Things that are really working well for me now:

Any dietary/health concerns/pregnant:

What I'm willing to spend on a single skincare item: eg. >£10, £10-20, £20-50, £50-100, no limits.

I specifically [want help with/am looking for a product to/am curious about trying]:


Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly either.

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miffy2 · 20/02/2017 13:24

botemp thank you for your recommendations. I purchased Bioderma Phytoderm SPF50 and so far so good. It has a white cast but if I let it settle for 10 mins or so before applying makeup then it goes on fine. No pilling and make up lasts usual length of time. Interesting to see how it will fare in summer months.
I also bought some FaceTheory items; day cream and night cream for myself and my DD and a vitamin C cleanser for her. I am liking the creams so far.

From the thread I also decided on CosRX blackhead power liquid for DD (for occasional use) but it has not arrived yet.

mintmagnummm · 20/02/2017 13:37

Anyone here use or tried Nivea sensitive night cream (the one without fragrance)

Tsmummy08 · 20/02/2017 18:21

Felix This is the Body Shop SPF
www.thebodyshop.com/en-gb/face/view-all/skin-defence-multi-protection-essence-spf50/p/p001071

It works very nicely under makeup and doesn't look white, you wouldn't know it had such a high SPF. I've got dry skin but the alcohol content doesn't seem to bother me as long as my moisturiser is rich enough :)

JDSTER · 20/02/2017 18:32

mint I presume you've checked the ingredients list to check there's nothing that's going to irritate your sensitive skin? I haven't tried it personally. I'm going to try a face theory moisturiser when I need one, as recommended and of course they do fragrance free ones.

I'm on holiday at the moment in sunnier climes and I'm being really good with spf and regular reapplication ( something I'm usually poor at on holiday). I've skipped using bha whilst I'm away and I've brought a little sample of 'shark sauce' that I was sent by a fellow poster on here which saved me bringing glass bottles of TO serum. My skin is pretty robust and I never have reactions to stuff so safe for me to try something new. Also brought NIOD low viscosity cleanser as I had a 50ml bottle hanging around. I don't like it at all! Feels very oily and it definitely doesn't remove makeup with just rinsing- I had to go and buy some cotton wool!

FelixFelix · 20/02/2017 22:25

Hello, it's me again Smile I am taking the previous advice and buying more of my usual BS chamomile cleanser, also the lighter aloe cleanser for a second cleanse, and the SPF50.

I am just stuck on acids at the mo. I have been looking at The Ordinary products after a friend raved about them, but do I need glycolic acid or hyaluronic acid? I'm swinging more towards glycolic but struggling to see the difference between them, apart from hyaluronic is moisturising. Do they both help with flaky skin? I have been reading up tonight and read that lactic acid may be a better choice than glycolic if you have sensitive skin - is this right? I'm worried about stuff being too harsh. My friend uses their 'buffet' but I can't quite grasp what this is meant to do! She also alternates between the retinoid 2% and rose hip oil. Sorry if all of this is gobbledegook and I've got it all wrong! Just trying to remember what I've read and keep getting mixed up between all the acids.

Would the below be a good routine to start me off, or is there anything else I should add?

Cleanse
Glycolic (or whatever other acid would be best)??)
Moisturiser (still would love some recommendations on what to use for this as I'm really unsure)
SPF

hollinhurst84 · 20/02/2017 23:17

So lactic and glycolic are exfoliants to (in simple terms) remove dead skin cells

Hyaluronic is not actually an acid exfoliant, it's an ingredient that (it's late, and botemp will do a better description!) but basically binds water to the skin and hydrates so if you use it under a moisturiser it keeps your skin more hydrated

FelixFelix · 20/02/2017 23:30

That's a good explanation, thank you! I'm going to forget about the hyaluronic for now and maybe go for the lactic acid because of the sensitivity I've had in the past.

Tsmummy08 · 21/02/2017 09:49

Felix Your routine could be:

AM
Cleanse (Aloe)
Moisturiser
SPF (Body Shop)

PM
Cleanse x 2
Lactic (or other acid: usually glycolic (AHA) f you have dry skin or salicylic (BHA) if you're greasy/spot-prone). Acids are usually recommended for night time use because they make the skin more sensitive to the sun.
Moisturiser (or oil)

That's a basic routine, but after a few weeks, you could introduce a retinol at night (alternating nights with the acid) and a vitamin C serum in the morning.

Hope that helps!

FelixFelix · 21/02/2017 09:54

Lovely, thank you! I've now bought the aloe cleanser you recommended, and the BS spf50. Are there any moisturisers you recommend or can you point me in the direction of what to look out for/avoid with a moisturiser? That's the only thing I'm struggling with now. Thanks so much for the help Smile

FelixFelix · 21/02/2017 10:36

Can I use lactic acid and then rosehip oil or does this not work together? Again, sorry for all the questions. Just want to get it right Blush

botemp · 21/02/2017 11:58

That is the mask I meant eversions but I'll share my findings on it later and will do a proper catch up then too. fledglingFTB, I'll get to you later (tonight or tomorrow, hopefully) just wanted to get the others sorted for now.

@eversions , it sounds like you’re very clog prone so be mindful with silicones and the more occlusive agents in skincare. Avoid drying out your skin too much and using gentle acids on a more regular basis to prep the skin (rather than just for exfoliation). However, you need to get into the regular use of sunscreen first.

specific advice as follows:

AM :

  • Cleanser REN ClearCalm Clarifying Clay Cleanser I’d switch this out to LRP Toleriane Dermo Cleanser as it’s gentler and less drying, drying might feel good in the moment post cleansing but it really isn’t helpful long term

  • PC BHA gel 3-4x a week up to daily (but get your sunscreen in place first) You can also think about switching to CosRx BHA as people either respond well to that one and not PC and vice versa. It’s also a good gentle one that you should be able to use on a more regular basis.

  • TO Niacinamide

  • HA serum, the Super drug one or TO Buffet, hylamide SubQ, NIOD MMHC or similar

  • Moisturiser - LRP Toleriane Fluide (I stocked up when it got discontinued and got 3 left, but thinking to changing to Cerave Moisturising Lotion when I run out? Or is there something else that would be good for dehydrated skin?) ← Moisturisers should generally just moisturise for added hydration incorporate a targeted HA serum, possibly look at Facetheory for a moisturiser but I wouldn’t rely on that solely for your HA needs.

  • I don't use sunscreen (I know I need to) as ones I've tried before have always felt too heavy or broke me out, but I'm thinking of trying either the Biore or Shiseido ones recommended here. Start using a sunscreen ASAP Halo, probably best to look for a low or no -cone one. The Bioderma Photoderm Spray is no -cone off the top of my head.

PM :

  • First cleanser - Origins Clean Energy Gentle Cleansing Oil

  • Second cleanser REN ClearCalm Clarifying Clay Cleanser see AM

  • TO Azelaic Acid (or sometimes TO Advanced Retinoid 2% and/or sometimes PC BHA Gel 2% around nose and chin) As mentioned above you might be in need of a pH adjusting acid toner to get the best out of your acids but this and any AHAs is something to look into further down the line. You really shouldn’t be using AHAs or Retinols without a good sunscreen in place. Depending on how well you’re getting on with the azelaic I’d only be using the BHA in this slot instead of the AM for the foreseeable future.

  • HA Serum

  • Moisturiser - LRP Toleriane Fluide

Long term: look at reincorporating Retinol once you have a SPF in place, Vit C and AHA (but we’re talking months down the line at this point). Stay away from the sheet masks for the moment, they seem like fun but they’re not the thing to help improve your hydration issues long term, get a good HA serum instead.

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botemp · 21/02/2017 12:00

@FelixFelix , a bit of an intervention here as you appear to be in full buying and excitement mode and unfortunately I’m here to burst that bubble somewhat. Going by your product history reactions I’d say you don’t respond well to silicones and/or acrylates. The Body Shop Aloe cleanser contains both for unfathomable reasons to me beyond conning people into thinking they have smoother skin than they do post cleansing. LRP Toleriane Dermo is my standard cleanser of choice on this board for its simplicity and gentleness and it’s where I’d steer you towards instead.

I’d avoid any SPF with alcohol (so that’s the Biore and Body Shop out) in it since you seem to be suffering from quite a bit of dryness/dehydration post Roaccutane. However, most sunscreens are high in silicones so I’m wary to rattle off the usual suggestions on that account, what has your experience with facial SPF been in the past? Please tell me you’ve used some.

Wrt to lactic acid and other actives, I’m going to be very stern and say no looking at any of it until your SPF is in place and I won’t be reccing anything specific until you have it in place. You are in desperate need of moisture by the sound of it so you can happily invest in an HA serum.

In terms of TO products, the lactic acid(s) and rosehip oil are dud products in the lineup from feedback so far. I’ll warn now that it’ll be difficult to find a good Acid product that’s low on the irritation front in your budget. Please stay away from the Nip + Fab pads, it might seem affordable but definitely won’t be the best if you’re looking for gentle and low irritating and I do think it’s wise to continue to regard your skin as sensitive.

Wrt to the Cetaphil moisturiser you’re using now, it doesn’t seem to be doing anything for you despite being highly occlusive and it’s full of flagged ingredients (for you). Either try the Eucerin UltraSensitive that I’ve referred to here before or a Facetheory moisturiser.

AM

*Cleanse with LRP Toleriane Dermo Cleanser (please note all cleansing should be done at the sink not in the shower)

*Super drug Simply Pure Hydrating Serum

*Facetheory Signature Moisturiser M1 (

*Sunscreen - I’ll point you in the right direction once we take your SPF history in consideration

PM

*B o d y Shop Chamomille CB

*LRP Toleriane DC

*Super drug Simply Pure Hydrating Serum

*Moisturiser as above possibly with a bit of facial oil mixed in or Facetheory Relaxing Night Cream M10 (also with or without facial oil mixed in)

Further down the line: look into AHA when SPF is well embedded in your routine (in lactic form 2-3x a week), Vitamin C (daily in the AM), Niacinamide (daily in the PM). Possibly BHA for the forehead, and Retinoid for the acne scarring if it’s not healing over on itself.

Despite the above advice I think you do have to keep in mind your skin will be shifting a bit post medication to find its natural balance and it’s likely you’ll have to adjust quite a bit as you move along accordingly so keep new product introductions to a minimum and take it slow so you can actually keep track of what is and isn’t working for you.

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fledglingFTB · 21/02/2017 12:19

No rush from me Botemp thank you so much for your expertise Star

I forgot to mention I did the Clinique 3 step once and it absolutely killed my face, the skin around my mouth cracked and bled. Pricey mistake!

FelixFelix · 21/02/2017 12:43

botemp that's all wonderful advice, thank you so much for going in to such detail! This is exactly what I needed as I find skincare such a minefield with so many different products. I have specified skincare money burning a hole in my pocket, which is my problem Blush

Wrt facial spf - no I've never used one apart from the built in spf in the bb cream I use, which is spf25 please don't hate me. I've been using this since June last year. I did originally think it was only 15 so at least that's something. I know I need much higher though. To be completely honest, I didn't even realise I should be using one until I started roaccutane and the derm suggested it. I now realise how important it is, especially for someone with skin like mine!

I did wonder about silicones when I had reactions before, as I read this could be a cause. Didn't even think to check the ingredients of the BH aloe cleanser or the SPF. I think i should be able to return them? I'll definitely get the LRP Toleraine cleanser as I've used their products before and know they are relatively 'safe' for me. I have also used Eucerin before so will definitely seek out the moisturiser you mentioned.

Please excuse my ignorance but you mention possibly using a facial oil but can you elaborate more on what kind of facial oil I should be looking out for?

Thanks again for taking the time to recommend so much for me!

FelixFelix · 21/02/2017 13:22

Just to be more specific about the makeup I use, as I am now wary about what I'm using and thinking if they have silicones I should maybe try something else?

I use Boots Seventeen bb cream but it's no longer on the Boots website for some reason. I've found a photo of the ingredients after googling and it has cyclopentasiloxane - is this the silicone ingredient I should be looking out for?

Also Rimmel fix & perfect primer, but I'm not totally enamoured with it and was going to try something different when I've used it up anyway. This has the same ingredient I mentioned above, and also Dimethicone. These are the two ingredients which have come up when I've searched what to look for when you're looking for silicones in ingredients lists. Is that right?

I have a sample of Hourglass No28 primer serum and I absolutely love it but it's pretty pricey and I'm not sure if it's suitable ingredients-wise. I can't seem to find an ingredients list online for it. It gives me a much better base though and makes my makeup apply very nicely, so I'd like to buy a full size one but only if it's suitable.

Sorry only just thought about mentioning these after you said about silicones. I think it's something I really need to watch out for now.

mintmagnummm · 21/02/2017 13:28

bo I'm sure by now ur sick of me but could I please just ask for ur help on one last matter.....for now Wink
I'm going to take ur advice and not even consider buying acids etc for now. Could you please just recommend me a cleansing oil or a first cleanse product and although I have said in the past my skin dislikes oils etc I'm actually not so sure what it does or doesn't like and am seriously thinking about ordering a face theory moisturiser as I'm sure the active moist is causing some redness and dehydrating my skin a bit more maybe due to the astringents it contains. So do u think the face theory signature moisturiser is best one for me? Also the relaxing night cream?
Lastly I think my skin likes the lrp dry touch antishine spf gel/cream how do you rate this one?
Thank you!!

eversions · 21/02/2017 14:28

@botemp, you're a star, thank you so much! It's all super helpful.

I think I'll try either the Superdrug Hydrating Serum or TO Buffet first, although the NIOD MMHC seems lovely too.

Regarding pH adjusting acid toners, would this Bravura Purifying Calendula Toner be ok? It's the only one I've heard of before to be honest, not sure of any other brands. I understand this is for later down the line, but wanted to check.

Also, maybe a bit of a random question, but I assume buying skincare from Amazon is generally ok? I've found the sunscreen and the CosRx BHA on there, and they're both Fulfilled by Amazon from good sellers so should be fine I imagine?

Pupsiecola · 21/02/2017 14:57

I bought my son the Neutrogena Visibly Clear Oil Free face wash. The Weleda almond face wash seemed to make his skin worse, or certainly no better (and I used the moisturiser a few times but had some spots shortly after). I did some research and Dr. Sam recommends the Neutrogena one for teenage acne. It has salicylic acid. It's very mildly foaming but I'm going to use a light moisturiser over the top. So I've not bought a separate acid for him yet. Do you think I should consider it? Think I will wait and see; certainly don't want to overdo it.

Dulcimena · 21/02/2017 17:06

Mintmagnum have you looked at the ingredients of those products? How do they compare with what you know does and doesn't work for you? You posted before that your skin reacts randomly - sorry but it probably doesn't. Seriously, slow down and pay attention to what's going on. What are the ingredients, where are you in your cycle, what have you eaten, how have you slept, how's the weather (eg hot, windy, humid?), anything else worth noting....etc. It ALL makes a difference.

I have to say too that it's your skin, nobody else's, and it's really unfair to delegate responsibility for it to anyone else, especially (sorry Bo) an unqualified internet random.

mintmagnummm · 21/02/2017 17:38

dulci in the nicest possible way...my reactions are random and I've said before there are certain triggers which I do avoid in products but the rest is quite random, an ingredient in one product could in fact be fine for me in an entirely different formulation. I completely avoid fragrance (artificial), silicones (if very high up on list) and alcohol.
I know when my skin isn't happy and I know when my skin likes/dislikes a product hence why I've used my cleanser for years but I know the moisturiser just isn't right for me. I'm not holding bo responsible for any reactions to anything she may recommend I'm purely asking her opinion as she seems to enjoy giving (maybe not so much any more after being bombarded lol)
I am actually a qualified beauty therapist myself and am quite aware of ingredients and skin care is a passion of mine, however I'm honest enough to say I'm not as knowledgeable as bo about some of these things and sometimes it's noce to have someone talk u out of making a mistake on impulse or saying actually yeah give that a go and see (it's always nice to have someone else kind of encourage a purchase too)
I'm trying to start from scratch tbh although still avoiding the above ingredients mentioned which even if my skin didn't react to I would avoid as I'm not a fan of them anyway (if that makes sense)

Pupsiecola · 21/02/2017 17:57

I echo what dulci has said. Mint you did come across as quite cross with bo.

GayParee · 21/02/2017 18:58

Hello

After an unexpected hospital mini break now back on it again.
Have ordered M1 and M10 from Face Theory, am fine for cleanser but could do with help with a serum and SPF.

I have Clinique City Block, is that a no? I like the look of the Body Shop one otherwise, or LRP?

Also I want to order from TO when the 2% retinoid is back in stock, but need to get HA, don't want to pay shipping twice if can help it so is there a cheapish high st one I could try?

Thank you very much

FelixFelix · 21/02/2017 19:02

Gay the retinoid is in stock on Beauty Bay if that helps.

botemp · 21/02/2017 19:09

No offence taken, Dulci, very much agree on my internet random status and was going to say much the same in response to fledgling and her attributing me a certain 'expertise'. I'm not by any means an expert, at best you can call me an experienced user but even that's a stretch. I tend to translate what I've read on all this through my own journey with skincare and try as much as I can to describe what I would do in your place with those problems. I tend to err on the overly cautious side, it isn't 100% foolproof and never will be and it's about as much as I can do and should never be taken as anything akin to expert advice or a replacement as such.

In these threads, I try to very much move away from a product focus that's overwhelming and purposefully confusing, instead, hopefully, educating somewhat in the ingredients that make a product and how those would aid or halt progress with your own skin. The internet and especially the blogosphere and forum boards like these very much work on this template of what works for Person A (with glowing fantastical magical overnight results which one must rave about in capital letters) must work for Person B on the assumption it's all down to discovering 'miracle products or ingredients' without truly looking into the mechanics of why something is working for Person A beyond some very broad industry defined common characteristics that really don't tell us all that much (eg. skin type, skin problem, etc.) I'm more interested in finding a synergy that works and that usually involves several things to take in consideration that will be unique to everyone and a lot of alterations and callibration in between.

mint/jo, I've said before that in your position, taking in consideration the issue, your struggle with it, the psychological tendencies and obsessions that go with it, and the specific dysmorphia that a specialised psychotherapist and a dermatologist seems the most sensible answer. I honestly don't think this is solvable with OTC products on your own to a level of satisfaction taking in consideration all of the above. I'm happy to look at an ingredient list and point out any flagged ingredients but that's about as much as I can do. Wrt the lists of things you'd like my opinion on/suggestions for, I don't think it's wise for me to rec anything right now and that will remain my stance in general. You have an issue with your moisturiser, focus on that if you want to change that, it seems very counterproductive to start trialling even more new products when the basics aren't right to begin with. The Facetheory supergel probably isn't the best fit for you as shea butter in an 'oil-free' product will still make it quite heavy and clogging and you've mentioned that doesn't work well for you. It also contains HA which is another gamble ingredient for you.

I'm not reading mint/jo, as cross with me btw, or anything directed at me. Just read it as someone very exasperated with the cycle where nothing seems to be improving/helping and feeling quite helpless as a result, which isn't a fun place to be. I'd love to be able to help but I am in no way capable of tackling the various issues, nor the isolated parts.

Hollin designated makeup person, selfish question for me since I hardly ever pose those I think Confused speaking of, has anyone sniffed the White Company Stuff yet? I just finished my Hourglass Opaque Rouge Liquid Lipstick in Icon which I quite liked but bought when it was one of the only liquid lipsticks in town, I'd like something similar to replace it with but am thinking the technology on that must be much improved now so was wondering where to look for a nice liquid lipstick that's not completely dead flat. I know you've mentioned buying some on here so figured you were the best to ask.

user, yeah that is an odd comment. I panic about all the Sisley concealer blind purchases but if I was responsible for someone spending $400 on Sulwhasoo (most likely young and a bit naive going by the average YouTube demographic and by the used language), I'd feel terrible.

On the LED lamp masks, the Neutrogena is promising in the fact that it works and is affordable to buy, however, it's a bit of a ripoff scheme as you have to buy an activator for it that limits the amount of uses each time (so basically a fake cartridge as LED lamps last forever). The top comment on A mazon explains it all pretty well with a rather clutching at straws company response as to why you continually need to buy this 'activator'.

Further research on it revealed that in derm offices they use a special gel that heightens the effect so I'm wondering if there is an OTC version of that available and e b a y seems to be full of alternatives in the £30-120 mark. I'll need to investigate a bit more on those, some look identical to a very expensive $1500 model and there are some that are identical to the Neutrogena one (I'm assuming it's much the same). Don't think you'll get a longevity on any of those but still cheaper and easier to use than the Tria system.

ChiChiRaRa and miffy2, glad to hear things are working out well for both of you and the additional feedback on the facetheory lineup. Very helpful!

Interesting on the NIOD cleanser, JDSTER, I want to like it in theory but I've remained sceptical about it regardless. That recent raving review (there aren't many out there) was making me want to like it again, especially since it would be useful as an alternative to micellar/wipes,etc. but by your experience it isn't much of a standalone product then?

Wrt Acids in skincare and which ones are exfoliating. I understand that it can sometimes be confusing but a lot of acids exist in skincareland since our skin tends to be slightly acidic so we use lots of acids but for exfoliating purposes it's a select few, but they'll be AHA, BHA or a PHA, though there are others out there too but when speaking of acid toners and the like it's usually referred to those.

eversions, I said I wouldn't be discussing acids with you until you've got your sunscreen well and fully embedded in your routine, and I mean it Halo. Not a fan of Bravura in general and I'll have to look into a good prepping toner for you as it's not something I usually advise as it's rare that they're of use to anyone, thinking I'll find it with Paula's Choice or an Asian one.

Amazon generally ok to buy from but very slow for things to arrive. e b a y is usually the quickest, and there are some Korean online etailers too that generally deliver within 2-3 weeks, sometimes quicker. Fastest I've received anything is 5-7 days.

FelixFelix, those that struggle with silicones in skincare can often be fine with it in their makeup. The grade of silicones used (impossible to tell from the INCI) but also how it's used makes the difference. In skincare it can often be used as a replacement for carrier oils and how it then sits on the skin and allows for other ingredients to pass through or not is usually what causes the irritation whereas in makeup it usually just works like a layer of film. The Hourglass serum primer is a makeup product that goes over your final layer of skincare (and a very siliconey one at that). Many makeup companies do this confusing hybrid to charge more for a makeup product but I wouldn't ever rely on it for skincare purposes. By the sound of it you are tolerating silicones fine in makeup formulations so you can try the Body Shop SPF and see how that works for you but if you find it drying over time or irritating we'll have to reassess. I would probably exchange the Aloe cleanser for the Toleriane Dermo if you still can.

Pupsie, was that a recent rec from Dr. Sam? The INCI is not one she's usually fond of, SLS, Fragrance, etc. I recced the CosRx low pH Good Morning Cleansing Gel because it also has the Salycilic in it (albeit the gentler cousin) but mostly because it also has some hydrating ingredients so is less stripping and altogether more gentle (also without fragrance).

If City block works for you (I think it's an SPF40 right?) then carry on using it Gay, for summertime you may want something a little higher in SPF. Which HA are you looking at as the Ha + B5 hasn't been getting the best results on here, Buffet or Matrixyl is usually the one I rec for HA purposes from TO. Asos also has the Retinoid 2% in stock I believe (or did when I checked yesterday).

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FelixFelix · 21/02/2017 19:22

Fabulous, thank you bo Star You have helped me massively with this and I really appreciate it. I'll stick with what I'm doing makeup-wise as the bb cream does work well for me. Hoping it's not being discontinued since it's no longer on the Boots website!

I will definitely return the aloe cleanser but will try out the SPF and keep an eye on it. It looks to be really good for the price so hopefully I'll be ok with it.

I have the LRP cleanser and the Superdrug serum on my list, and also the Facetheory M1 moisturiser after looking them all up and reading reviews.

Thanks again! Will let you know how I get on.