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Even More Fantastic Skincare And Where To Find It

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botemp · 16/12/2016 10:37

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For those who are taking a peek and wondering whether thread 1and 2 are worth reading we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients for our particular needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between deviations on this thread are mostly my fault.

If you're in need of some advice coming to grips with your skincare routine please don't hesitate to ask, we don't bite, only occasionally sting with a bit of Biologique Recherche P50 now and then . Just make sure to state clearly what your concerns and needs are, skincare is highly individual and a random recommendation for a 'good' product will be completely different from one person to the next.

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botemp · 17/12/2016 16:10

Oh dear, Aurora, ime the most hyped up and 'fancy'/'trendy' parties are always the dullest. I have managed to successfully avoid de Bijenkorf so far but they're open till late tonight, I might just pop round because I really need a new concealer and they're the easiest to browse all the brands in one go, although this will probably suck the life out of me, concealer colours and I are not the best of friends.

I'm really ambivalent on the natural syrups (though I do usually have maple syrup now and then) and dried fruits just because I can sense the effect it has on my body. I'm never all that convinced it's as good or harmless as they claim, I remember Agave Syrup was the big miracle syrup for a while and then it was all debunked as pseudoscience. I cut out sugar in a period of 6 weeks (and bought a slowjuicer in anticipation for it, drank a lot of veg juice to replace where I'd normally snack on fruits as I avoided fruit the first two weeks before reintroducing it again slowly). Thought it would be a lot harder than it was but that may also have had to do with the fact that my appetite was low at the time for reasons unknown.

user, I'm glad to hear you're getting on well despite the Christmas diet (reminds me of an article I need to link up here). Good to know Face Theory has its fans they really should send me some already, it can sit right next to my imaginary Stila palette. wrt to SPF in winter/Scotland/rain/etc. UVA rays are the same year round (which also contribute to ageing but aren't the rays that cause burning yet penetrate deep and damage the collagen fibres there just the same), whether the sun shines or not. UVB is what SPF and the UV Index relate to, which has to do with the intensity of the sun.

Also if you're using actives it simply is a safeguard that's better to internalise as a daily thing than having to remember if you used acids the night before or not and you're more likely to become complacent about SPF. Another argument for daily SPF use regardless of weather is the scientific studies that show that consistent daily use help reverse ageing, simply by protecting the skin from the environment it has more resources available to work on restoration instead of expending that on protection. The only argument against daily SPF is the possibility of not receiving enough Vitamin D from sun exposure, reality is most of us don't take that in during winter anyhow and need a supplement regardless. Technically the WHO recommendation is SPF30 and above when the UV index is over 3 (which it hardly reaches in winter) but this is only in regard to protecting you from skin cancer not anti-ageing so dependant on what you use SPF for makes for whether it is necessary as a year round thing or not.

exhausted, I'd echo much of what the others have been saying about HCC. Try to keep the temperatures at a tepid warm and avoid the known triggers. I think you may benefit from BHA (PC 1% calm is the only thing I'd dare look at first) or Azelaic Acid but you need to get the basic routine down and working for you first. Can you go without makeup base for a bit? Since it seems to wear off within an hour anyhow? I'm only asking this to keep the initial routine as minimal as possible so you can keep it down to minimal products and not need to double cleanse.

As Pupsie mentioned, the specialised rosacea ranges tend to not always be the best formulated for sensitive/rosacea types and coloured pink and other colours for reasons I'll never understand. So the Avene range despite having some fans has a number of issues that could be very triggering for other users. I wouldn't be too happy about the fragrance and many silicones and various derivatives, while it may be fine for some I think if possible it's best to avoid if you're unsure what is triggering the inflammation. The Vichy is also fragranced so possibly irritating and without an occlusive (moisturiser or oil) on top won't be having much effect (see discussion above).

Have you tried the LRP Toleriane range before? I tend to recommend it on here because it is so stripped back and gentle, it may mean that sometimes it needs to be supplemented but at the very least it's less likely to irritate. As a first step that's what I'd be looking at for now, LRP Toleriane Dermo Cleanser in the AM and PM with the LRP Toleriane Fluid moisturiser. Then look into getting an HA serum without fragrance in there (like the Simply Pure Hydrating Serum from Superdrug or one of the Ordinary ones discussed on here). Leaving the need for SPF, actives, etc. for later for now. Also, as Pupsie recommended consider getting referred to a dermatologist again, they may be able to prescribe things that'll be more effective at higher strength to see you through the worst of it.

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