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Can somebody explains jeans to me please?

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SaulGood · 04/06/2015 12:28

After my PFB was born and mired in a postnatal fug, I went to buy some trousers. The criterion were they had to fit and preferably, be available from the first shop I went into. I went to TK Maxx iirc and buoyed by the need to feed the baby and the promise of trousers which would hide my post-CS apron, I tried on a grand total of one pair of size 12 jeans. They seemed to fit and they agreed to sell them to me. I was unaware at the time precisely how lucky I was.

It is eight years later. I love these jeans. With the exception of a pregnancy in the intervening years, I have worn them every week, at least once, since I bought them. They are massive round the waist as I'm actually a size 8 again but I tie them up with a head scarf. They might not fit round my somewhat decreased middle but they fit in all sorts of other metaphysical ways. They make me very happy. They're soft and worn and make me feel emotions usually inspired by the heady combination of gingerbread and David Mitchell. Sadly, they are tired. The bottoms have gone from frayed to ripped and as they really don't stay up as well as one might hope trousers on a middle-aged woman should, they drag on the floor more and more and they're protesting. The knees are torn, which means whenever I put them on and accidentally catch my toes in the hole, the children are treated to a rousing chorus of "oh buggering fuckety fuck". I have accepted that it's time to go no contact.

I went shopping. I bloody did. I have tried on no less than 27,000 pairs of jeans. I understood none of them. They clearly didn't understand me either. The terminology is boggling. Skinny, straight leg, low rise, boyfriend, boot cut, worn, torn, stonewash, twisted, dip dyed, distressed. DISTRESSED? I'm fucking distressed.

In a flash of inspiration, I tried googling the brand of my much loved, much missed pair of jeans and it turns out that "Roxy" only ever made one nice pair of jeans.

I don't want skinny jeans. I don't want to wrestle myself into my clothes. I want to pull them on and sigh at how comfortable they are. I also don't like them cut so low I'm partaking in an unintended strip tease every time I reach up to the top shelf for more stem ginger. I know I don't like boot cut because I experimented with it in 1989 and I'm just about over that experience. The ones I've tried on all seemed to be really inflexible, thick denim. Is it only washing a pair of jeans every Saturday for 8 years that makes them less cardboard-like?

I don't want them ridiculously baggy, or harem or whatever else I spotted in a shop the other day. I like them just normal. You know, not clinging, not baggy, just jeans. I have a pretty nice figure and I like the fact that my jeans fit me and I feel good in them, but they're not tight iyswim. Not cut low at the waist either, not up to my nipples, just normal. I like quite pale jeans. My much loved ones were v pale blue, stone wash I think. I don't mind grey jeans either. I don't like v dark blue. Oh and I went in Next too and every single pair I looked at was made out of weird, stretchy material. I don't like that either.

I've tried Sainsbury's and Tesco. I also looked in Gap. I have tried on lots and lots. The nicest I tried on were Sainsbury's low rise boyfriend jeans but the waistband wasn't uncomfortable. If I bought them, would that get better with washing them?

I don't have a lot of money and I genuinely only need one pair of jeans. Which shop do I go to and what am I looking for? I'm actually not as fussy as this thread makes me sound. I just want to be comfortable.

Having googled, boyfriend jeans do seem to be what I want but then this nonsense pops up and I think what I actually want is to never go shopping again. The shape is pretty close to what I want, but what's with the weird vents?

I really, really like these but £95?! They're very similar to my lovely Roxy jeans. So some like that (or with slightly less of a taper if possible, is that straight leg?) but I'd like to keep both kidneys.

Anybody still awake? Just name a shop and a style and I will go there and try them on.

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BabyGanoush · 05/06/2015 07:24

I used to live in mens levi's 501's. I am quite hippy (as in wide hips), but oddly they were best fit ever (snug on bum/hips but not tight). They last forever too.

DosDuchas · 05/06/2015 07:40

saulgood

YOUR JEANS RE APPALLING

thank god you are buying some new ones Grin

DosDuchas · 05/06/2015 07:41

plus no to the tramp chic scarf/belt thing

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 08:50

DosDuchas, it's like you're speaking English but I can't quite understand you. The words on their own make sense. Grouped together like that and I'm baffled.

You're tilting at the wrong windmill. This is not the windmill you want.

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TheFlyingFauxPas · 05/06/2015 09:05

Ah they've got years' of wear left in em! I also wear my jeans till they're falling apart. I have a pair that I love - they're Next bootflare but I love em as they're so soft but there is hardly any crotch left in them they're pretty much indecent. Still I cannot throw them so they're resigned to gardening and scruffy throw on hang around the house days. Though they're in such a terrible state I still love wearing them. Same could be said for my Primark leopard print pants which are more hole than pants but still cannot bear to fling them - they're my go-to old faithfuls when I need a little comfort that only pants can give!!

Do you have time to go to charity shops? I find their jeans fit me way better for some reason Confused We have good shops in our town and I can usually find a pair I'm happy with in one of them. They're usually those you just know by the way they feel that they're perfect for you before you even do them up and look in the mirror. I don't know if it's the fact that they're slightly worn in for you that makes them so much easier. Mine have all been in fab condition too - who outs stuff that has so many years' wear left in them?? But I love them for it and at approx £5 a pair you can afford to take the risk with them.

HTH xx

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 09:06

Jeans are so dull aren't they? I mean is everybody else as bored as I am? I am so sorry for dragging you all into this.

I want to buy these. They're so much more interesting than 50 Shades of Denim.

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TheFlyingFauxPas · 05/06/2015 09:08

Note to self : don't stride widely over ds's laptop while he has the web-cam on skyping his young pal while wearing said crotchless indecent much-loved jeans! Blush

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 09:17

I am going to trawl the charity shops later. I had a brief look yesterday on the way back from Travis Perkins and there were a few but I had the recalcitrant pre-schooler and three tubs of levelling compound hung about my person like a shit game of Buckaroo. It wasn't the right time.

I know exactly what you mean about charity shops and I agree. Why throw stuff out when you can still wear them for years. I still wear stuff I bought as a teenager. In fact, yesterday I wore the top and the DMs I wore on DH's and my first date. That was 16 years ago. I am currently wearing pyjama bottoms which used to have a pocket on the back. They have some thread, a sliver of fabric and a small hole instead.

I've just found zebra print jeans on ebay. I'm not allowed those either am I?

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ChilliAndMint · 05/06/2015 09:20

Next and M&S get the thumbs up from me. I find a lot are huge on the waist.
Buy a lot of jeans from charity shops..the worst by far have to be Mint Velvet..thank goodness I only paid £2.50 for them!

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 09:21

His young pal should consider it an education. In the evils of modern technology.

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AmelieinOz · 05/06/2015 10:43

This has got to be the most entertaining post I've ever read here in Mumsnet!

If you can get your hands to American Eagle Outfitters, they have the comfiest jeans!

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 10:55

I thank you, I'm here because I can't get away all week.

I like the American Eagle Outfitters website. All those half-headless women dancing about like they need a wee. I had the Benny Hill theme tune in my head while they jigged. The names of their jeans are ridiculous but apparently I like the Tom Girl and the Favorite Boyfriend.

I'm nowhere near any of the stores but we do need to go to Ikea for more dull house stuff so can probably combine the two one day.

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Cocolepew · 05/06/2015 11:21

My favorite jean(s) came from Asda. Unfortunately the chub rub got to them and they went to holes Sad
Actually I'm wearing Asda ones now.
Go look in Asda.

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 12:05

I looked in Asda once. It was full of lost, tortured souls. Do I have to go in or can I look through the window?

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sheffieldstealer · 05/06/2015 12:13

I feel sorry for those unloved jeans: The UnSexy Boyfriend and the Baggy Girlfriend.

Can't even get my head around walking into Top Shop and asking to try on a pair of Mom jeans. Is that their mean way of trying to rid the place of the over 35s?

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 12:34

If I'm under 35, can I shop in Top Shop? I think we could come up with a complete range of alternative jeans. The Unsexy Boyfriend and Baggy Girlfriend can be the key pieces. I'm going to design the Fucking Distressed, The Mutton and the They Saw You Coming trouser.

My BIL is a dancer and as such, has quite a nice physique. He's also aesthetically handsome. When he was doing his dance degree, he worked part time in a clothes shop. This clothes shop is quite famous for promoting the body beautiful. Young, fit, non-disabled seems to be its image and it has, rightly, been in trouble for discrimination. As a model/assistant, he was shown exactly how to encourage the right clientele. They should have asked Top Shop for tips. A little corner in the back of the poorly lit store with some elasticated waistbands and complementary Werthers Original, a sign saying "Mom and Pa" and some Kenny G piped through the ceiling. People will insist on turning 30 but you can herd them into a dark corner and pretend they don't exist.

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mewkins · 05/06/2015 12:44

I am probably a similr size to you. Have you tried girlfriend jeans?!? Boyfriend jeans look like i have raided a charity shop and bought old man jeans. Girlfriend on the other hand are nicely fitted but comfortable. Gap do them online and they come up big. I am a size 8 or 10 and get a waist 27 in them but still need a belt but then i want them as a comfy summer jean. The bright blue is nice and pale but not distressed. The distressed version were awful and 80s.

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 13:00

I really like those mewkins. I tend to size up in jeans. I will buy a 10, even though I'm more of an 8. I prefer to be comfortable and despite being fairly slim, have hips so jeans will sit on them and not fall down. I'll go and try some on. I did go in a Gap but the assistant kept hovering and asking weird questions. I got quite flustered and left.

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mewkins · 05/06/2015 13:08

I never go in store (not one close and they never have all the sizes) but the website is good and they are really swift with returns and refunds so I tend to buy all the sizes to try on. Sorry, I did the typical reading the first page and then post reply before realising you wanted wider leg ones. I used to get mone from skater type shops but there are fewer and fewer independent shops now sadly. If you are in London you could hit Neal St in London and see what you could find. Also asos is a wealth of random clothing labels. My best guess would be search for slouch or wide leg jeans and see what you can unearth.

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 13:21

I'm not completely desperate for wide leg ones. I just don't like them tapered too much or skinny. The girlfriend fit ones I quite like.

I'm in Norfolk. That there London is quite a way away.

I bought a maternity dress from ASOS once. I may or may not still wear it now.

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mewkins · 05/06/2015 13:22

Hahah I have given all my maternity clothes away to resist the temptation. I do still wear maternity tights though. They are the way forward!

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 13:42

I never owned maternity tights but I don't like regular tights as they dig right into my belly button or roll down ridiculously. Perhaps maternity tights are the way forward?

I sent DH to see a surgeon in order to resist temptation. Extreme but effective.

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LtheWife · 05/06/2015 13:44

If the charity shops don't have anything suitable there are a fair few websites that sell vintage jeans. Granted, you're paying more than you would in a charity shop because they call them vintage, but they're mostly still reasonable. Beyond Retro offer free returns which is useful.

DosDuchas · 05/06/2015 14:33

Ditto. Windmills ?

SaulGood · 05/06/2015 16:55

Some of those vintage jeans are brilliant!

"Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means attacking imaginary enemies. The word "tilt", in this context, comes from jousting.

The phrase is sometimes used to describe confrontations where adversaries are incorrectly perceived, or courses of action that are based on misinterpreted or misapplied heroic, romantic, or idealistic justifications. It may also connote an importune, unfounded, and vain effort against confabulated adversaries for a vain goal "

Don Quixote tried to fight windmills believing they were giants. You tried to teach me fashion, convinced you'd found a receptive audience.

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