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Acne. Benzoyl peroxide not working anymore!

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itsbetterthanabox · 19/07/2014 00:57

I was using quinoderm 10 and my skin cleared well but it's stopped working Hmm
I've got a lot of spots on my cheeks and chin and they itch and hurt!
What can I use? I was thinking a cream with salicylic acid but which ones contain a decent enough amount to work properly? What should I wash with? What treatment will clear like the BP used to?
Help my wise ones.

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TheFirmament · 21/07/2014 21:35

I am spot-free (bar the odd one very occasionally – which is miraculous AFAIC!) since getting Duac from the GP. Nothing else really worked over 30 years of acne hell. It's great. Worth a trip to the GP anyway to check it is acne, then ask for Duac if so. It doesn't smell or hurt, and you only use it once a day at bedtime.

CerealMom · 21/07/2014 22:31

I'm currently on Roaccutane. Bloody marvellous - wish I'd done it years ago.

I self referred to a dermatologist. You can get referred via your GP, however it will take time as they will want to try you on a combination of therapys first. You might respond to one or more of these. If not, they will refer you on to a derm.

I spent years and mega bucks faffing around.

ppeatfruit · 22/07/2014 11:39

kundryNo not mainstream but if the body ws so good at regulating it's ph then no one would have arthritis, IBS, gout, depression etc. The NHS has only recently decided that diet MAY have something to do with heart attacks, brain tumours and cancer etc.has n't it? DUH to the nhs.

I follow the Blood Type Diet by Dr. Peter D'Adamo which is how you can find out what you're allergic to itsbetterthanabox iam the only person i know of my age and younger who is not ill so although scoffed at because it would put a lot of medics out of work if it entered the mainstream there's a hell of a lot in it IMO and E.

TheFirmament · 22/07/2014 11:50

Hmm I suppose I'm on the fence about this. Food obviously affects health and I do notice some particular effects, eg I eat a lot of sugar and carbs, I get more lethargic. However I have tried everything diet-wise to try to control my acne and nothing made any difference.

And I think faddy diets that suggest one particular approach is a cure-all are often a bit suspect. What happens to particular chemicals in the body is very complex and unlikely to be accurately summed up in one trade-friendly self-help book.

ppeatfruit · 22/07/2014 12:39

TheFirmanentIt is scientifically obtained information. I prefer to be fussy than continually taking ABs which we all know are becomng less effective all the time.

TheFirmament · 22/07/2014 14:44

ppeatfruit all these books will claim they are based on scientific evidence, that is their stock-in-trade, but it doesn't mean they are. Scientific evidence is quite easy to pick and choose from, twist and misrepresent.

There are lots of in-depth explanations on the web about how and why scientists have not found any evidence for the blood type diet. You don't have to believe them of course.

ppeatfruit · 22/07/2014 19:12

i quite agree TF I do not blindly believe any aspects of science; that's why I go purely by my own experience. The B.T. explains soo many things-;

!. Why the Atkins suits some people and makes others ill.

  1. Why some people die very young and others live a lot longer.

I discovered that the eczema I'd had for years was down to tomatoes and other deadly nightshade vegetables. also i cured the beginnings of arthritis,even though "it runs in my family" (my 86 yer old mum still has all her faculties including her hearing and sight unlike the majority of old people in her flats) She follows the BT.

lurkingaround · 22/07/2014 19:25

Ppeatfruit, I wish it were so easy. Really? No arthritis, inflammatory bowel disease, irritable bowel, depression, gout and more?? Would that it were so simple. I would have to question your evidence.

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Kundry · 22/07/2014 19:32

Blood type diet has been extensively debunked and proven to be based on no science at all.

Ppeatfruit I'm glad you feel it works for you. But it's not science.

FelixFelix · 22/07/2014 19:34

Go to your GP. I've been suffering from terrible acne for about 10 years. I get huge painful pustules on my chin and my skin gets extremely sore. It gets to the point where I don't leave the house because of it. I've literally spent hundreds on various products (Vichy, LRP, Benzoyl Peroxide etc) and changed my skin routine, my diet and everything but nothing helped.

I finally plucked up the courage to see my GP last week and he prescribed me a 2 month course of Doxycycline. I googled and it has very good reviews but I was so skeptical because nothing has ever worked. Im a week in and the redness all over my face has gone, and the huge painful spots I had have disappeared. I still have acne but very small spots which aren't raised. I'm so impressed so far and can't wait to see what my skin looks like at the end!! Couldn't recommend it enough.

ppeatfruit · 23/07/2014 09:21

There's a real scientist on MN called Thumbwitch and she's on it and it cures her IBS Of course it's been debunked anything truly revolutionary is frightening especially for the medics who make their living in the mainstream. I mean they laughed at the man who invented penicillin didn't they.

Check it out is all I say with an open mind.

TheFirmament · 23/07/2014 09:32

anything truly revolutionary is frightening especially for the medics who make their living in the mainstream

Sorry but this is such a daft thing to say. You know nothing at all about science if you think it is static and medics want to keep things as they are for the sake of their income. Medics and scientists are working all the time on new treatments and new discoveries. There have been scientific papers studying the blood type diet carefully to see if it is true, because if it was it would have been a useful addition to what we know. Scientists regularly look at woo claims and put them through rigorous tests and sometimes they do find a positive effect. They are not trying to conclude one way or the other, they are looking for the actual facts. That is what is actually meant by an "open mind". Not believing something just because it flies into the wind.

Most really important discoveries are not revolutionary at all. They are gradual and build on previous work, small breakthrough after small breakthrough. It is work like that that means a majority of people now survive cancer, for example. When a fad comes along claiming to overturn everything we know and be the One True Way, that's a reason to deeply suspect it I'm afraid.

It is also vastly unscientific to say "I know x person and y person and they are on it and they feel better so there!" That's not how science works. There are many reasons why you might feel better including luck and the placebo effect. Science actually tests the results properly over a large number of people.

ppeatfruit · 23/07/2014 10:15

I have read Ben Goldacre too you know and science is not the be all and end all; how can a scientist say that what works on a rat will also work on a human? There are so many drugs that have been 'rigorously tested' that have turned out to be dangerous when used by the general population.

As I said I do not blindly believe in ANY science without personally experiencing the product or whatever; if it is the placebo effect then great; at least no animals have been harmed. Doctors also took a very long time to consider that smoking was harmful.

TheFirmament · 23/07/2014 11:03

So first you're defending the blood type diet on the basis that it "is scientifically obtained information" and then you're saying science isn't the be-all and end-all and your personal feelings are more important. Hmm.

Science isn't perfect, I do realise that and mistakes are made. But at least it is an ongoing effort to understand the reality of things. Fad pseudo-scientific diets are designed to con you and make millions for their authors and publishers. You do realise this right? It's not just doctors who like to make a living.

ppeatfruit · 23/07/2014 11:25

No I said I go by my own experiences even if it is scientifically obtained
if you'd read my original post about it I said exactly that.

I mentioned it because there are many like you who only respect 'scientifically' obtained information even though most of the population is unwell all the time; including the ones like dh who was wrongly diagnosed and prescribed damaging drugs rather than stop eating the food that is patently making him ill.

Iam completely aware that everyone has to make a living; I don't buy all the recommended supplements, the Blood Type itself is easy to follow without any.

I hope you're healthy; I just like to give people the option of a different approach to their health that's all.

ppeatfruit · 23/07/2014 12:29

To change the subject you can use the essential oils of lavender and or rose\frankincense;dsis has a lot of success on her spots and swellings with them. Diluted with almond or argan oils of course.

lurkingaround · 23/07/2014 16:29

most of the population is unwell all the time
That's a rather sweeping statement, given that humans are living longer than ever before.
Anecdotal evidence is not a clinical, peer reviewed trial. While it is great that this diet has worked for you, ppeatfruit, and your DH, it is not evidence that your diet works. Anecdotal evidence is not a clinical, peer-reviewed trial. The blood type diet is not science. Has Ben Goldacre commented on your Blood type diet?

As a reminder, there are many natural substances that are very poisonous, it's not just drugs that harm.

ppeatfruit · 23/07/2014 22:00

Well the majority of herbs have had thousands of years of use shall we dismiss those years in favour of trials that are often wrong and badly carried out? Pharmaceutical companies take benign herbs and single out one chemical then add all sorts of additives to make a concoction that may be ok for one or two people but is bad for others .I heard a medic say that all of their drugs have side effects which is not true of the supplements I take.

I never said all natural herbs are benign and I also said that dh prefers to take medics that don't help him at all because he almost always ignores his blood type. When he does take it into account his health improves a lot.

I'm not so sure that we are ALL living longer I knew a lot of people who've died of ill health and they were often much younger than me (i'm in my early 60s). The really old people I know are so depressed they can't do or say anything. I prefer to be healthy till I die thanks. BTW if you want evidence that the Blood Type works (oh of course it's anecdotal so doesn't mean anything) there are a lot of people on Face Book who talk about it. Kim Catrall look amazing on it as does Cliff Richard and Iam always told that I look 10 years younger than Iam.

TheFirmament · 23/07/2014 22:08

Kim Catrall look amazing on it as does Cliff Richard

Sorry but :o surely you can see there might be other reasons why they look a bit young for their age!?

lurkingaround · 23/07/2014 22:17

As a species, and in the western world, we are living longer than ever. You may know some who have died, we all do. People die. The fact is we are living longer. Fact.

Many common herbs have side effects. Black cohosh can cause liver damage in some. Valerian. I could give you a long list.

The fact that Kim Cattrall is looking so marvellous probably has more to do with plastic surgery and airbrushing than diet. Meet my mother, hale and hearty in her 80s, smokes like a chimney, and an absolute advert for smoking. She is amazing. Anecdotal evidence that smoking is good for you. The reality is we know now through scientific trials that smoking is bad for you.

Not to dismiss your own experience, but it is just that, your own experience.

itsbetterthanabox · 23/07/2014 22:37

The herbs which have affect are mostly used already in medicine. We just isolate the specific thing that actually works.
Ibs of course is helped/cured by diet. It is caused often by diet issues. The nhs recommend diet changes not meds.
I'm wary of antibiotics. Partly because I'm very prone to thrush from them!
Thanks for the recommendations. So many different options!
I will make an appt with the doctor. I don't actually know my blood type so not sure how I would follow the diet!

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ppeatfruit · 24/07/2014 09:59

itsbetterthan The isolating sometimes doesn't work e.g. they took out the smell of garlic for garlic supplements and removed the effectiveness of the garlic!!!

It's true about ABs because they're soo over used they're losing their power;I'd prefer to have acne (which responds well to the lavender\rose essential oils )than be resistant to ABs if I got pneumonia

The other diet change you can make (sorry another thing!!) is to look at the Hay Diet which is not mixing protein and carbs at the same meal also to eat fruit on an empty stomach (that cured dh of bad indigestion\IBS)

you can send off for the blood test kits. I got mine from a large Boots.

SassySpice · 24/07/2014 18:46

I suffered from terrible acne last year, tried everything over the counter and watched what I ate. Nothing worked. I was so self conscious, especially at work as I'm customer facing.

After reading threads on MN I went to the doctor who prescribed Duac and recommended Cetaphyl facewash. Those two things corresponded with positive posts from users on here. Took around 8 weeks to see improvements, but 6 months down the line my skin is the best it's ever been. I can honestly say I haven't had a single spot for around three months now, and believe me I had dozens of the bastard things - huge pus-filled hard monsters.

itsbetterthanabox · 24/07/2014 20:27

I'm going to buy some cetaphil after so many positive reviews. Is it a wipe or rinse off?
Is duac prescription only? Can you use it long term?

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