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Products for Rosacea - I know it's been done before.....

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CatalinaAruca · 18/07/2014 18:43

I developed Rosacea just over a year ago.

It has improved but it's worse at the moment.
When it's bad it is spotty and bright red.

Using Clearasil Skin Perfecting Wash combined with Guinot Red Logic I have managed to keep it under control for a year but my formerly pale cheeks remain flushed even in a controlled state.

I've tried Tea Tree products, these make it very angry.
Which makes me think it isn't the kind of Rosacea that is caused by bugs.

Rosehip oil also makes it red and angry.

Red Logic is expensive and doesn't eradicate it completely.

Does anyone have any other ideas?
And/or any ideas about the cause?

TIA

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SauvignonBlanche · 18/07/2014 18:46

I'd be lost (and red) without this Clinique range.

mycatlikestwiglets · 18/07/2014 18:53

My mum has rosacea and also likes the Clinique range, but really rates products from Rosacea Care. I think she read about them in a newspaper article originally and decided to give them a shot. Not cheap so I sometimes buy them for her as gifts if I know she's out of stock!

Renovatinghouse · 18/07/2014 18:55

Hi. A friend of mine had rosacea that got worse over time and the dermatologist prescribed antibiotics (apparently in her case there was a low level infection) and some cream and special sun block. Her face is so much better even after a short period. She had tried lots of things before that did not work. The fee for the doctor was totally worth it. Good luck!

CatalinaAruca · 18/07/2014 18:57

That's really useful, thank you.
I was considering Clinique as I'd seen a positive review about their Rosaeca products elsewhere online.

The link looks great, I'll try it Smile

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MrsDavidBowie · 18/07/2014 18:59

I have pustular rosacea which occurs in the sun.
I use Dermalogica ultra calming range.
It seems to be improving as I head out of the menopause

CatalinaAruca · 18/07/2014 18:59

Renovating thank you but in my original post I should have said I've tried antibiotics and prescription antibiotic cream, both of which were less effective than using Red Logic.

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flamingtoaster · 18/07/2014 19:02

There is a suggested link between rosacea and Helicobacter Pylori (which lots of people carry in their digestive system) - this may be why antibiotics help rosacea. However, if you don't want to take antibiotics you could try Manuka Honey (at least +10) or Mastic Gum - both of these knock out H.Pyl and may therefore help the rosacea. Even Garlic and Extra Virgin Olive Oil reduce H.Pyl and therefore might help - and there are other natural remedies effective at reducing HPyl as well.

herbaceous · 18/07/2014 19:06

This might be a step too far, but I've found out that giving up eating wheat, or just about, has cured my rosacea. It's also stopped the stomach ache and IBS I'd been plagued with for 20 years. Must be something to do with inflammation, over-reaction, etc...

LeoandBoosmum · 18/07/2014 19:13

Expensive but nice (see if you can somehow get a sample first)
johnmasters.co.uk/cohtml/products/items3.htm

Kiehl's supremelely gentle eye makeup remover (but used on whole face...wet face with lukewarm water, apply and rub in gentle circles, rinse). They have a money back guarantee.

Trilogy Very Gentle range is brilliant, their cream cleanser (used in same way as Kiehls), and their very gentle moisturiser.

Boots used to do this amazing gel in a little bottle/ jar with a pump that used to calm a flare-up for me when nothing else would but it's long-since discontinued...I still mourn that.

I don't usually get on with fragrance but my skin is fine (but my rosacea is dry!) with Jurlique Moisture Replenishing day cream (Jurlique are good at providing samples if you call the number on their site and may suggest other things for you to sample too...I know lots like their calendula cream for rosacea).

LeoandBoosmum · 18/07/2014 19:14

Sorry to put afly in the ointment... I'm glad going wheat free helped herabceous but it did nothing for me. If anything, going easy on sugar helps me a little, I suppose we're all different.
Ps...Sounds cliche but drink lots of still water.

stephenisjustcoming · 18/07/2014 19:45

Paula's Choice Skin Recovery range seems to have worked a near miracle on my rosacea, combined with finacea gel from the GP on the pustules. I think it's the salicylic acid in the BHA gel that's made the difference. Oxytetracycline ABs also clear up outbreaks really quickly but I'd prefer to find other ways to control it.

I find cutting back on wheat and sugar helps. Annoyingly.

DodobirdVerdict · 18/07/2014 20:15

The demodex theory has transformed how I approach my rosacea. Now symptom free: I tried an topical antifungal when I had a flareup and now when my skin has healed I keep my routines minimal. The products that seem optimal for me are Eucerin 5% urea, African black soap, daily Chanel sunscreen and mineral foundation. LRP Effaclar salicylate products are also great.

zippyswife · 18/07/2014 20:24

I had terrible rosacea. I tried everything, including various oral antibiotics. Nothing worked.

I then used Rosex (sp?) which is a topical antibiotic adn it cleared up in no-time. Definitely worth giving that a go. I use Avene products on my skin (from Boots- often on offer 3 for 2) which are the only products my skin will tolerate.

Touchwood these days I have pretty good skin! good luck.

CatalinaAruca · 18/07/2014 20:25

Smile I wish I'd asked before!

I could cut out wheat but that would be a last resort for me as it's a big lifestyle change.
Introducing the Manuka honey, more garlic, more extra virgin olive oil etc are easy enough to do, can't harm and I'll enjoy the honey!

I'll look at all of the products and try to get some free samples.

My Rosacea isn't dry but at the moment (during the flare up) it is very sore.

Please do keep adding further suggestions Smile

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MrsFlorrick · 18/07/2014 20:33

Finacea is very good. And perhaps trying a different type of antibiotic?

Mine no longer responds to antibiotics.
I find Finacea now stings too much for me to use. However mine is current far far better than it has been since it began.

I avoid all products with any type of silicone (particularly diemethecone, Cyclomethicone. Siloxanes these are like cryptonite for me!).

I oil cleanse with rice bran oil. Really helps take the colour down if I am very red. And since using the rice bran oil for the last year, it has consistently improved to the point where it isn't visible at all on a good day. And my face was almost purple before.

I also use Dermalex under makeup during the day. Really really helps.

And mineral powder makeup only. And pure powders with only 3/4 ingredients; titanium dioxide, zinc oxide and iron oxide).
Def no liquid foundation with Nylon12, diemethecone or Silsesquioxane or other copolymers!).

Oh and weekly aspirin face mask. (Circa 5/6 standard cheapo aspirin tablets, crushed and mixed with literally three drops of water and applied to face and left to dry).

The other thing which may help you is Differin gel/cream. Its a newer non irritating synthetic version of Retin A. Its frequently prescribed by dermatologists for rosacea. GPs won't always hand it out as I think it's technically an off label prescription.
It may be worth a go as it's shown to work. Have a google and see.

Rosacea is very individual so what works for me may not work for you.

Galderma (a drug company) recently released a cream which can temporarily reduce the redness however it only lasts 12 hours and many users report increased redness and pain once blood flow to face returns to normal. It's from a drug originally used for glaucoma and a vaso constrictor. It's called Miravaso.

They are also working on a new drug made from Ivermectin which is used to kill microbial infestations in pets and livestock (based on the facial note theory).

It should be available by 2016. However if you don't want to wait go to Pets at Home and buy Ivermectin drops for guinea pig/rabbits and apply to your face every night for 14 nights. Btw I am not recommending you do this!!! Grin I'm just saying you could and if you google lots of people do and have done this with good results.

I'm a massive chicken so not quite ready for that.

LoonvanBoon · 18/07/2014 20:41

Have you seen a GP? Remember it's a medical condition primarily & prescription products / antibiotics may well be needed.

Okay -what's helped me (bearing in mind different things seem to work for different people): finacea gel (azelaic acid) on prescription - helps with everything for me - spots, flakiness, redness. I tried metrogel & metrocream first - GPs often seem keener to prescribe those - but they were hopeless. Finacea can cause itching & stinging to start with, but I'm so glad I persevered with it.

General skincare: I use a milky cleanser in a range called Purity Organics, that used to be available in Superdrug, but I now have to order. My skin dislikes lots of natural products - inc. rosehip oil & tea tree, as you mentioned - but this is okay for me. Used a micellar cleanser - can't remember the brand - a couple of years ago that was also okay.

I use Simple moisturiser. I know lots of people can't stand it but it helps me. When things are really sensitive / dry, Avene skin recovery cream is better, or I mix them depending upon the condition of my skin, which veers between oily & dry. Always sensitive though.

It's extra important for anyone with rosacea to protect their skin well from the sun. I couldn't be without a physical sunblock - can't cope with chemical filters & they set off my eyes (have ocular rosacea too). I use Elta MD UV Physical SPF 41. Have to order from the US. It's lightly tinted & I use it in lieu of foundation most of the time. Have used Clinique Redness Relief foundation too, which is good, but irritates my eyes a bit. And Susan Posnick Colourflo mineral makeup doesn't irritate me.

When things have been at their most inflamed I have had courses of oral antibiotics. Am allergic to tetracyclines so have used clarithromycin, which has been shown to work as well as doxycycline & with far fewer side-effects. The regime that was tested was 500mg daily for a month, then another month on 250mg daily. That worked for me when nothing else did & when the state of my skin was making me really fed-up. Haven't needed antibiotics for about 3 years now.

In terms of causes, I don't think there is one cause. For some people, digestive issues seem to be a factor & changes in diet help. They make absolutely no difference to me. Other people are flushers / blushers from childhood, & it gets worse with age - I'm guessing they just have ultra-sensitive facial vasculature.

There's evidence of a link with excessive numbers of demodex mites, as I'm sure you know, especially in cases where spots & sudden onset are factors. Demodex are killed by tea tree oil, but obviously that's irritating. There have been some studies on the use of topical / oral insecticides, like ivermectin / permethrin, but I don't know how conclusive they've been.

I read research a while ago about people with rosacea having abnormal cathelicidins - a type of antimicrobial peptide - in their skins. These produce a huge range of inflammatory symptoms. Still begs the question of why some people develop these in an abnormal form & others don't.

MrsFlorrick · 18/07/2014 20:49

I used Finacea for about a year before I started to react badly to it.
To save the initial stinging on application, apply it after a moisturiser. The instruction tell you its the other way around but I always put moisturiser on first Nd then Finacea.

After about a year it started to sting constantly whilst on my face. So I stopped using it.

I use Bellapierre mineral makeup. Has excellent coverage.

LoonvanBoon · 18/07/2014 20:49

Think I x-posted with various people there - or had missed bits. Didn't read that you'd already tried antibiotics, OP.

Oh, just one more thing: don't try lots of new treatments / products at once. I'm sure you're more sensible than I was when first diagnosed, but I just tried way too much. My skin didn't know if it was coming or going & just got more irritated, & I had no idea what was causing the reactions. One new product / treatment at a time, & unless you have an adverse reaction, you may need to give it a month or two to see if it's helping you.

IME clarithromycin & finacea both started working much more quickly than that, but I think that's the general rule of thumb.

SnakePlisskensMum · 19/07/2014 08:12

I second Avene, they have a product specifically. Can't remember what it's called but begins Rouge...
Avene is the only over the counter product recommended by the sk:n clinics

Rarily · 19/07/2014 11:27

I had laser treatment last October for blood vessels and general (very noticeable) redness on my cheeks. The treatment was expensive, but my redness and spots have reduced massively. A year down the line I"m going to get a top up of treatment, but won't need as much....

CatalinaAruca · 20/07/2014 09:22

I would also consider laser treatment but it does seem drastic until I have tried all other things.

I looked up Avene but it gets some poor reviews, in that some people say it doesn't do anything much.
Can anyone remember/link to the effective product?

TIA Smile

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Walnut8 · 20/07/2014 10:00

Jan Marini bioglycolic lotion. Has basically cured my rosacea (have also cut out dairy). I had diffuse redness though which wasnt painful.

Avene product is the antirougeuers fort

Walnut8 · 20/07/2014 10:01

here

DrewsWife · 20/07/2014 10:13

I use veil cover creme. It's amazing coverup makeup.

I submitted my wedding photos to their Facebook page. If you see the photo of the fat bride with big boobs. That's me.

It's not as bad now I'm pregnant. Lol. But not saying that's the cure ;)

MrsFlorrick · 20/07/2014 10:52

Walnut. Where did you buy you Jan Marini lotion from?

How long did it take before you saw results?
And do you have to keep using it to keep the rosacea at bay?

Sorry lots of questions. Grin