Recommendations make over for a tween

[spottymoo]

Dd is very into make up she's going to be 12 soon and I'd love to take her to a counter that could do her make up and then she could buy a few bits.

She likes very natural make up she saved her pocket money up and got the naked basics set and is now saving for naked 3.

Any recommendations please

Have had good experience with Bobbi Brown with similar aged daughter. Consultant was very warm and positive about her natural state and just showed minimalist steps to add glow: eg: gloss/bronzer plus tiny bit of mascara. Plus no pressure to buy. Daughter loved it and left feeling really good about herself (plus is now less inclined to go overboard with cheap clumpy cosmetics from front of magazine covers...). Problem is of course that the Bobbi Brown range is lovely but expensive (out of my DDs range - but she has sought out cheaper, but still natural looking, substitutes).

Would avoid Benefit as these seem to be using consultations to launch really hard sells these days.

Mac might be an option?

Omg 11 yos in make up

Nope

Ronald: do you have a secondary school aged daughter? If so, how do you play this?

I don't have an 11 yo child currently and I won't be playing it anyway for my girls when they are 11 chestnut
I appreciate that you have done so but...er...no...just no
In my book anyway

Awful - that's exactly the thing: she was sneaking out of the house in horrendous amounts of cheap thick mascara (from front of Shout etc bought with pocket money) - and has now dropped in favour of a naice lip gloss. Perhaps irrational - but that feels better? You are right that there are complex issues here...

She's too young for a makeover.

Make up at 10?

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Heard it all now

Please don't do this op - she is just a child. The counter lady will plaster her in all kinds of shit and she will decide she needs it all. Seriously, this is a stupid idea.

My dd is ten and this week I was in debenhams buying some urban decay stuff and the lady, who was lovely, asked my girls if they would like some lipstick on. They did and she put them in the big chair and they had the lipstick on.

They were thrilled but it was definitely a dressing up moment, rTher than a 'my daughter is having a makeover moment'. In fact, I felt
Ike I had to explain it in the next shop I went into. I didn't want people to think she was wearing make up! She's 10 although she looks older.

If, this time next year she told me she wanted to wear make up, I would tell her that she's too young. And that she is pretty and she doesn't need to wear make up.

Perhaps I would try to help her feel more grown up in other ways both in her appearance (so more grown up type of school bag, shoes etc) and give her more responsibilities at home.

My neice is around that age maybe 12 - I just got her some cheap MUA kits and brushes plus rather than go to the department store for a makeover- either get Bobbi Brown's teen beauty book if she hasn't already and /or Eye Candy which I brought my niece. It shows different make up on the eyes and how to copy the looks. At that age if they wear make up -keep it to eyes and lips. The don't need anything on their face!

www.amazon.co.uk/Eye-Candy-Makeup-Luscious-Lashes/dp/1845432592/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1390986156&sr=1-1&keywords=eye+candy

Sorry cannot do a link but just go to Amazon and books and put in eye candy by Linda Mason. £6.79 at the moment. Bloody good it is too, I have a copy myself!

My dd had the Bobbi Brown make over and it was not inappropriate at all.They showed her how to put on mascara and eyeliner(very subtle sparkly) and sheer sparkly lip gloss.Told her not to use foundation.This was at 12 and a present from her aunty.She is now 14 and wears the same make up beautifully (and is very conservative in every way),very boyish and wants to be a vet.
Like it or not,once she went to secondary school everyone wore eye make up and some start plastering their faces with slap.I think there is nothing wrong in teaching girls how to look after themselves (and their skin).I think its been proven that subtly made up interviewees are far more likely to be successful than the au naturel look.I suspect the posters protesting don't actually have teenage kids.

teta
I think there is a difference between teaching children how to look after their skin and teaching them how to wear or apply make up

In a separate point, How well do men fare in interviews against subtly made up women if the men don't wear make up?

I didn't start this thread for a debate as to wether dd was old enough or not got make up

I'd much rather her be taught the basics from someone who knows what their doing, same as I'd rather she wore decent make up rather than tat from the front of a magazine.

For those that helped with suggestions and recommendations for books thank you I appreciate it.

She doesn't wear it for school as it's not allowed till their in year 9.

I've got an 11 year old, year 7 DD and I'm sorry to sound old fashioned but there is no way I would take her to a make up consultant for a treat. I think it is a lovely present for an older child but in my eyes it is a case of too much too young. The most I allow is sparkly lip gloss and I like make up, but in my eyes she has years to experiment.

Is your daughter into a lot of YouTube videos by people like Tanya Burr, Pixiwoo, Zoella, Missglamourazzi etc by any chance?
I've found that a lot of these seemingly "innocent" youtubers have been very marketed towards children your daughters age recently.(they have big pr teams behind them) It's a trend I've found quite disturbing on some levels. It's very heavily implied that you need to be wearing a full face of make-up most days and brands are very sneakily promoted with no mention that they are actually being paid to mention the product.
It's all presented with the idea of just a pretty girl sitting in their bedroom teaching you how to apply make-up, but it's far from it and they are earning very very big money from this.

I agree that this would be a lovely present for a teenager a little older, but that maybe she's still a little young for this. Would taking her to have a lovely new haircut, or a natural looking manicure maybe be an alternative idea?
Bobbi brown do some excellent books on make-up application designed for young skin. Maybe she would enjoy one of those, as she could keep going back and looking at it along with a nice highend lipbalm?

www.amazon.co.uk/Bobbi-Brown-Teenage-Beauty/dp/0091878179/ref=tag_dpp_lp_edpp_ttl_in
This book is excellent for teenagers I think.

www.boots.com/en/DIOR-CREME-DE-ROSE-Smoothing-Plumping-Lip-Balm-Rose-Cream_1040257/
This lip balm will feel luxurious but at least look natural.

Hi Spottymoo, I'd recommend either Mac or Bobbi Brown. I'm sorry your thread for your daughter's birthday has been hijacked in this way. I hope she has a lovely day and enjoys her treat.

I agree with the awful daughter. It's a fab present for a 15 year old not 12 imo.

Thank you Marylou x

The awful daughter do you actually have a dd?