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The Shopping Ban / Frugal Fashion Thread

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FrugalFashionista · 08/03/2013 08:03

Tentatively dipping my toes in here ---
Do you love clothes, shoes, accessories, and beauty products - perhaps a bit too much? Wink
Have you self-prescribed a shopping ban, are you on a strict budget, or are you trying to learn to shop more mindfully for other reasons? Are you a budding recessionista, thriftionista, frugal fashionista - or would you like to become one?
Would you like to do this with like-minded people, still looking stylish and up to date?

This thread could be a place for mutual support, inspiration and creative tweaks (planning outfits from what you already have; charity shopping, swaps, repurposing).

My personal goal: no more clothes, shoe or beauty purchases in March.

I'll tell you more about why I am here in true 12-step tradition, but we need a few like-minded people first Wink

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bleedingheart · 08/04/2013 11:14

I'm still reading with interest, I'm about a third of the way through You Are What You Wear and I'm having lots of lightbulb moments!

I have my eye on two items but I'm waiting for a discount or sale and I won't replace with other 'wants' if I miss out.

I've reintroduced a number of items to my wardrobe and have sorted out the DCs wardrobes too. I'm not a minimalist but I had lost sight of my organised self!
Keep it up frugalists!

bleedingheart · 08/04/2013 11:17

I have often kept things because it wasn't 'worth' returning too Violet.

VioletGoesVintage · 08/04/2013 11:53

Glad it's not just me!

So, anyone have any good ideas for styling a clingy navy (navy, again!) midi skirt? It has a tie at the waist, pockets on the hips and a split about one-third of the way up. It sounds quite formal but is actually pretty casual.

FrugalFashionista · 08/04/2013 12:58

Loving your posts ladies! Back for more detailed comments later (busy workday).

Today's frugal outfit:
High-waisted light denim shorts (salvaged from recycling - they are very fashionable atm!)
White repaired 3.99 H&M vest
Pink/blue/coral boucle jacket with mint chain trim (high-end sales find last summer, a favorite)
Navy semi-sheer tights
Navy suede loafers (hand-me-downs from my mother)

Mixing high and low is very me - and feels much more chic than all new!

Violet I'm a serial non-returner. I often have to pay for return postage and it's complicated but sometimes I do it just to wrist-slap myself.

Foxy loving your mindful list and SpareTime white with silver sequins sounds absolutely stunning!

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OneLittleLady · 08/04/2013 13:34

Ever have days where you just hate all the clothes you own and feel fat and frumpy in everything. I feel like that today. It makes me want to shop to feel better about myself even though I know it won't work. Anyway, todays outfit is:

Burgandy dress/tunic
Black leggings
Black and white striped open front cardigan

I feel ok enough, just nothing special.

QueenCadbury · 08/04/2013 14:31

onelittlelady I know exactly how you feel! I've over indulged over the Easter hols and as a result my jeans are just a little bit tight. Usually I would go shopping now to buy something to make myself feel better but as you say it doesn't work. I'd just end up with something for the sake of it. This thread and others have definitely made me look at my shopping habits and only buy what will really make a good addition to my wardrobe. Also I know that a few days of eating sensibly(and not drinking!!) my jeans will be feeling fine again Grin

OneLittleLady · 08/04/2013 14:37

I'm desperate to lose weight but my medications make it so so hard. All five of them (all of which I need) have the side effects of weight gain, increased appetite and drowsiness. I either want to eat crap or I'm asleep. I try and do as much walking as possible and eat sensibly, I just keep piling weight on. My clothes (and self esteem) are suffering for it as half of what I've got would fit if I lost half a stone but doesn't fit now and the other half of what I have is stuff I had to buy because I've put weight on.

santamarianovella · 08/04/2013 15:20

hi frugal just caught on with the thread,had a very busy morning.
im planing on buying:
1 nice dress for a couple of events in the summer,still cant decide between MCQ or by MSGM
1 dressy top(undecided)
1 casual top(zara)
1 light jacket(iro)
1 pendant(zara)
i shopped a bit in jan and feb,using a promotional code from shopbop , a store credit from my-wardrobe and sale section in revolve clothing and bought:
3 pairs of jeans.(j brand,joe jeans,blank denim)
3 tees(james perse,splendid,soft joie )
1 casual dress(splendid)
1 shirt (equipment)
1 jogger pants(zoe karssen)
that seems alot ,but i saved a fortune

last year i went mental during the summer sales(due to being on holiday in italy and finally losing the last of my baby weight) i didnt buy anything i regretted and they were all %50-%60 off,but i still dont want to repeat it.
i had a look at my previous SS clothes and it can go with most of the items i bought/plan to buy.
i will remember you in my prayersWink.

QueenCadbury · 08/04/2013 16:35

onelittlelady I emphasise, that must be really hard for you. It's disheartening when things don't fit. Is the weight you've put on likely to be it or are you likely to continue putting on weight? Shoes, jewellery and bags though will always fit whatever and they can make or break an outfit so possibly worth investing in good accessories to make you feel better?

FrugalFashionista · 08/04/2013 16:58

SMN love your list - I'm very interested in MSGM, they have some great clothes. I have a tendency to go crazy in outlets Sad It's very good in moderation - if you shop wisely you can have a designer wardrobe on a H&M / Zara budget - but I've overdone it and simply need to stop. Shop vicariously mindfully for me too Wink

OneLittleLady it's so tricky with medications isn't it? I read the book 'Mindless Eating' last year and it had some great advice on creating optimal defaults. But really really hard of course if the medications cause cravings. Oh and I have quite often days when I look and feel awful. But in general, making a bit of an effort helps. (I suffered from PND and was on antidepressives for a year - tried to avoid the ones associated with massive weight gain. Various self-improvement projects and moderate exercise and a conscious decision to fight negative thoughts also helped a lot. In full remission now thank God.)

I looked objectively horrible yesterday btw - sallow pigment-spotted skin, shiny in the wrong places, and limp but frizzy hair and let's not even mention the outfit. But good make-up and a simple upside-down blow-dry (snap QC) can be quite forgiving Grin and good outfits proportioned right and in the right colors make a huge difference!

Chablis Thanks - if your DH notices, it really is major Grin Mine doesn't really care about the money (our finances are almost completely separate) but he is very happy about the decluttered bedroom. My stuff used to be everywhere

Violet midi skirts are hugely fashionable right now and would probably flatter your tall frame. Have to think about it a bit - but I know what you are talking about re: frame. In the meantime I'm sharing my newest blogger girl crush - here - she dresses a tall angular frame with panache, I particularly love her oversized men's coats.

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OneLittleLady · 08/04/2013 17:57

Thanks for the support ladies Thanks

QueenCadbury, I'm not sure if this is it or if I'm likely to gain more. I research on the net but there's so much information and a lot of it is opinion rather than fact, that it's hard to determine what applies to me and what doesn't. I'm hoping that by carrying on with the sensible eating and the walking that I'll keep any potential further weight gain at bay. i think I'm due a medication review soon so I might ask what other options there are for me in regards to what medication I actually take. FF it's great that you've recovered, PND, which I also suffered very badly with for a time, is awful.

justasecond · 08/04/2013 18:05

SMN That is a great list, very considered. I love Equipment shirts but sadly out of my budget.

FF Glad you are back! After diagnosing myself as a column shape (thanks to you!) I am rethinking what shapes are best for me. Do you think a cowl neck jumper such as this would work
www.zara.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product/uk/en/zara-neu-S2013/358007/1049457/DRAPED+SWEATER
I am worried about my lack of shoulders. Also I would have to wear with looser bottoms such as bootcut or straight jeans (due to religious reasons I will only wear shorter tops with looser trousers and skinny bottoms only with long tops/dress/tunic), not sure what that would do to my proportions?

justasecond · 08/04/2013 18:06

Oops sorry forgot about the no links rule! will leave it there unless anyone objects?

QueenofWhatever · 08/04/2013 18:27

Just got back from holiday and trying to catch up with the thread. Glad it's still going strong and apologies in advance if my comments jump about a bit.

frugal your posts on Vitruvian proportions etc. have been so useful. I love architecture and am familiar with the golden ratio but it never occurred to me to apply it to clothes. I'll be getting the tape measure out.

Also the bit about contrast is interesting. My first thought was that I'm low contrast but thinking about it, I'm a medium. Pale colours just make me look washed out as do very bright ones. Those beiges and creams some women wear (nude shades) do nothing for me.

Also the planes. I've read about this here and there and hadn't really 'got' it but I realise I'm a diagonal. Wrap dresses and v- neck tops work well on me and I have that whole cheek bone thing going on.

We had a great holiday and travelling with hand luggage worked well (the pull along cases that have to measure certain sizes with Ryanair etc.). I had plenty of clothes and a few pieces of slightly bling jewellery helped dress things up for the evening.

I bought a Breton top for ten euros in Zara which is something I've been looking for for a while in eBay. It's organic cotton and is easily an 8/10 so that felt right. I resisted buying a scarf with feathers on - it was nice but not nice enough, a 6/10 and polyester.

QueenCadbury · 08/04/2013 20:08

I've also been looking up about vitruvian proportions and came across this blog which seems to have some interesting stuff.

But what's this about contrasts and planes? I've gone back through the thread but can't find anything. Am I being blind?

onelittlelady I also had pnd after dc2. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

santamarianovella · 08/04/2013 22:58

justasecondi cant wait to wear the equipment shirt ,the fabric is very nice,they often go on sale on U.S sites.
onelittlelady i hope you get and feel better about yourself soon,its safe to say we all went through horrible self loathing stages.are the medication you are on for an extended period of time?you might ask your dr to change them.my mum switched medications to ones that didnt allow increase in appetite. i had terrible pnd too,and having a c-section didnt help either, hated myself,cried every evening, it was awful.

QueenofWhatever · 09/04/2013 15:05

QueenCadbury frugal posed about contrast and planes on 2nd April so I've c&p below:

General principles of dressing

1 The principle of similarity - create visually pleasing harmonies by repeating a shape, form or shade: the curve of your cheek, your legline, your natural colors, etc

2 The principle of contrasting - add visual interest by adding contrasting elements.

Example 1, principle of similarity and contrast. I'm tall and quite thin. It's a good thing in moderation, but if I overdo enhancing similarity, I look like a Holocaust survivor. So I enhance certain parts of my shape (I tend to show my legline; I repeat my natural colors in my outfits) but I also introduce contrasts (I'm strongly vertical, so I add horizontal elements to my outfits). Example: a tall thin woman I saw this morning. She wore tight trousers and riding boots (=strong vertical element) teamed with a voluminous fur-collar parka (adding horizontality). She looked balanced, not like a Giacometti sculpture.

Example 2: I'm pale and low-contrast. If I dress completely in beige, I'm invisible. Strong medium-intensity colors (red, green, blue) make me more visible and enhance the milky tone of my skin. People have naturally different levels of contrast. Take a black-and-white picture of yourself (=Photoshop your picture) and observe the contrasts. Do you see white and black a la Nigella Lawson and Snow White? -> high contrast. Do you see clear contrasts but everything is in shades of gray - > medium contrast. Is everything quite monotonous and low in tonal variance -> low contrast. If you are naturally high contrast, repeating this grade of contrast in your outfits will work (=you can use black and white). If you are low-contrast and wear high-contrast outfits, your clothes will swamp you and you will look drab and insignificant in comparison - you will achieve "high contrast" by using tones much closer to each other. If you are low-contrast, Google Sarah Jessica Parker and study her outfits. Can you see how she respects the principle of similarity most of the time (hair, skin, lips, many of her clothes) but also skilfully employs the principle of contrast (her eyes are usually the contrasting element). I'm very low contrast and a good "black and white" for me is steel gray + oatmeal or cream. I can either respect it and go for a relatively muted-color outfit (principle of similarity) or add visual interest by going for contrast (add bright lipstick, bright colored clothes). Because I tend to look bland, I always make sure that my brows and lips are clearly defined (this also increases horizontality - I tend to be over-vertical otherwise).

How to define your leading visual plane

Vertical - tall, thin, stick-figure like, long-limbs - you can emphasize and repeat your verticality by adding vertical elements but will balance your proportions by introducing horizontal elements. Full skirts, horizontally striped tops, rectangular necklines, bulkier tops or voluminous trousers or sleeves. Do this to just one part (respecting the 3:5) of your body.

Horizontal - short, wide - introduce vertical elements to your outfits (create vertical visual cues by the use of buttons in jackets, long straight trousers, pleats, topstitching, etc; avoid an excess of horizontal cues)

Diagonal - are you X-shaped (hourglass), Y-shaped (inverted triangle) or do you have prominent cheekbones, sloping eyes or a heart-shaped face? Repeat diagonal elements throughout your outfits: wrap dresses, bias-cut clothes, V-necks repeat and enhance your natural diagonal planes.

Average - most people are average. Not particularly tall, not particularly wide, not particularly diagonal, just average. In your case, pick out 3 to 5 parts in yourself that you particularly like. Then use the principles of similarity and contrast to showcase them (=repeat the shape of that body part in your outfits; highlight them by using the principle of contrast).

Curvy - If you are curvy, study women who dress curves well - Jennifer Hudson, Queen Latifah for example. Kirstie Alley is very interesting because she can get it spectacularly wrong (google her!). You can learn what works and what does not by observing her. I know a few XL models irl. They are off the charts sizewise (not size 14!) but look stunning. One of them repeats her sinuous curves in her outfits and uses sensuous silk jersey and heavier cotton jersey to make her top part look even more voluptuous. She buys her skinny jeans from 'urban' brands and vacuum-packs her bottom - she gets cat calls on the streets. Another friend makes her brown eyes and creamy skin the visual focal point of all outfits - you never really notice the rest of her body. Blogs featuring curvy women are worth studying - you can see what works and what doesn't and then try out the looks you like best.

FrugalFashionista · 09/04/2013 16:39

Bad news - a bad relapse, two slips yesterday Blush Blush Blush

  • running capris Pros: don't have running capris; will need warm weather running gear; sustainable fiber & a small company Cons: an unpremeditated impulse purchase, provoked by a code received via e-mail
  • a shift dress from the Outnet Pros: have a matching jacked bought at FP 1-2 years ago; decided back then to get a coordinating skirt or shift when they go on sale. This is roughly what the ensemble looks like. I will have a work thing next month where this would be very appropriate. I haven't bought a work suit since 2007 (own one gray winter suit that I have worn a lot; this would be my summer version). I'm a suity person and actually like wearing them. Cons: still quite expensive; breaking my shopping ban; this will never be an everyday item; could probably think of other outfits to wear to the work thing

Action items:

  • reread some sections of the willpower and overshopping books
  • unsubscribe every remaining ad circular
  • stop visiting online stores - too risky and tempting
  • unless absolutely perfect, return return return
  • continue shopping ban until end of April
  • what else?

Ladies slap me! How are you doing?

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OneLittleLady · 09/04/2013 16:57

Well, I did buy myself something but it was a good purchase. Super skinny jeans in a lovely mauve colour. They fit in my wardrobe nicely and to be quite honest, they make my bum look amazing. I was always told that skinny shapes wouldn't work for me because I'm plus size but sod that, I look fab in them. Today is a better day Grin

QueenCadbury · 09/04/2013 19:47

frugal don't beat yourself up about it. If you feel really guilty about the purchases you could always return them. You've done so well, don't let one little relapse ruin the rest of your good work.

queen thank you for that. Not sure how I missed the original post!

PretzelTime · 09/04/2013 20:16

I have to say, since I started following this thread, I've stopped caring so much about clothes and shopping. I've bought some things, but only basics that needed replacement. Aah, not-shopping is so relaxing!

santamarianovella · 09/04/2013 20:17

frugal the the suit looks great, we are allowed one slip every once in a while.
onelittleladygood skinny jeans can be flattering on all shapes.

PretzelTime · 09/04/2013 20:20

Also Frugal, what QueenCadbury said, don't beat yourself up about "relapsing". Your action lists sounds good though. Not visiting stores, online or not, is a must. And as I said in my previous post, remember it's so relaxing to shop doing that all the time :)

PretzelTime · 09/04/2013 20:21

*stop, not shop! Pffft.

SplatPancake · 09/04/2013 20:48

Go you, and your fab self, OneLittleLady !!