I finally stumped up for Bottox and wow what a difference!

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I don't consider myself to be a big beauty addict but 2 weeks ago I had Bottox and its made a subtle but significant difference. I've noticed people smiling back at me more and I realise that it must be because I don't look perpetually worried. No one in real life has figured out what I've done so I had to come onto to MN to share my news!

Watching tv lately I have been looking out for women with frown lines - I have seen none.

I really do look cross all the time, I think it affects how people respond to me. Once I'm done with having dc, I'll be having botox

It all depends on your bonestructure.

I had botox for the frown lines inbetween the eyebrows above the nose, which made me look stressed and grumpy, and it worked brilliantly. I have a narrow forehead and when I raised my eyebrows, I had 11 horizontal wrinkles, which didn't bother me so much as the grumpy vertical frown lines. Only had it done a few times but now have only 4 horizontal wrinkles, but the dreaded frown lines have changed to 2 bulges on each side instead. Am now too old to be bothered. It costs around £400 each time now, and my daughter has it now and again and is delighted with it. Once the lines become permanent, they cannot be eradicated, only "filled in." I know several 80-90 year-olds with no lines at all who have never had botox.

I love my Botox! I look younger, happier, I'm more confident, it's great!

I want to inject my frown lines with poison in the name of vanity.. Any recommendations for Epsom/Kingston way?

holey some of them on Telly may not have frown lines but they don't look like themselves any more (i know it's the knife plus botox) but if Olivia Newton John, Felicity Kendal and Lulu think they look good well they look effing terrible to me (it's strange ''cos I'd have thought they could afford a really good job) they don't look younger IMO just ridiculous.

There must be a lot of plastic surgeons laughing their way to the bank.

even with unlimited money there is (as I understand it) a limit to what surgery and the various cosmetic techniques can acheive

Is the new DNA based botox readily available yet? (I remember it being discussed a couple of years or so ago).

Just catching up on this again following laptop problems. I think that it is definitley worth considering if you have quite a lined forehead - which I did. This tended to make me look cross or worried. That's why I think people are tending to smile at me more... because my smile doesn't look like a frown with botox. I just got fed up with being told not to worry etc.

Yes, I think there's a small risk of allergic reaction. The risk of droopy eye can be (I think) eliminated by choosing someone with expertise in the musculature of the face. And who is expert in having facial injections. My dentist, Sarah Hodgson (Greenwood Dental Surgery in Altrincham) did mine and I have to say I think having her was what gave the courage. She's the head dentist there and very experienced etc. There's no way I would have walked off the street into a beauty spa for it. I think its quite hard to find someone you feel confident about. People don't generally tell their friends if they've had botox so that doesn't help.

So is your name Sarah Hodgson by any chance?

No, I think its true that people don't talk about it in real life and I did strugggle myself to find the right person. Personally I felt it was important to go to a doctor or dentist as I can understand the level of training that they have.

I would love Botox but for me, it's the big question that no-one has asked yet.........does it look worse when it wears off?

Yes laptop especially if you go on having it; a good example is Siri O'neal You know the ex corrie star who's in Crickley Hall now (I might 've go her name wrong) she's got lumps on her forehead like Digerd is describing upthread.
hello digerd BTW

when the effects wear off the crows feet and frown lines etc will start to form againas the muscles that caused them become active again.
You wont look worse than if you'd not had it..generally people who start having botox continue with it so the lines dont get chance to reform

ah, the only reason I ask is that recent reports seem to suggest that if you start botox too early, then the ageing effect can appear greater.

i've not seen those reports so cant comment..have you a link? :)

No, I read it in a magazine at the hairdressers. High level stuff this.

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