Shape wear - why are we being sucked back into girdles ?

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I just think its against my religion.
Either lose some weight or buy something that fits ur suits.
I've flirted with large pants that give me an unattractive prosthetic air once , but then I think FFs I am not apologizing for myself, and leave at home.
On the other thread someone wears them to work !!
Isn't life tough enough without a corset ?

Even in shapewear anyone with a brain and who was a bit mean would look at me and say she has big knockers and a bit of a saggy tum she has flattened them but they are still there I think they ruin the line of things. Agree we do not need to become living sausages to satisfy some bloody idea of what a woman is

You are aware that there is also shapewear for men available?

In fact M&S and matalan sell shapewear for men, so I guess there is a mainstream market for it and men also worry about having a "smooth line". Oppression my arse.

If it feels oppressive to you its oppressive

So don't wear it

And leave those of us that aren't looking for oppression in every item of clothing/heels/lipstick to wear whatever we feel good in.

Ok

Some people don't need to look for it they just see it.

OK so leave us that don't see things that aren't there to wear whatever we feel good in and worry about the things that matter.

This thread is about rejecting corsetry so maybe it is for people like me and not you?

Can't see how shapewear is any more oppressive than heels, makeup or fashion generally

Oh sorry, I didn't realise that people started posts on MN only for people that agree with them .

Smooth line is one thing. But they are shit when you are trying to combat PMS bloat for example. I thought they'd help my trousers do up even though they are a size eight and i am more of a ten but was bitterly disappointed.

Before I came to live in this ridiculously hot climate I never left the house without my sucky-in-mid-thigh-length pants, unless I was wearing jeans. Regardless of whether I am a size 16 or a size 12 (and I veer wildly between both) I have the world's most untoned arse, and they make me look and feel a million times better. Even if you are slim a lumpy wobbly outline is not nice.

And I don't care what anyone else's idea of what a woman is. I do what I have to do to feel happy and confident with myself and I don't want to go out looking shite in a thin skirt and having other women pulling smirky faces at my arse (and it is always other women who do that kind of thing - rarely men) just so you can feel happy that another woman daring to go out looking a bit crap is one more nail in the coffin of misogyny.

Rationally I completely agree, we should be able to embrace whatever shape we have.

BUT I cannot imagine wearing a tight dress without something smoothing me over underneath. I especially hate seeing a whole crater of bellybutton area in the mirror. Also in some things I look like a tube so a semblance of waist is rather nice

I've found the same sometimes MadameOvary - they often stick to very fitted trousers, actually making you look fatter and (just as Noddy said) a bit sausagey. But my arse looks vile in all formal trousers anyway, so I tend to stick to dresses and skirts, which if clingy or fitted, are greatly improved by body shaping undies.

If you can see a belly button the fabric is cheap and naff

I think anything that's uncomfortable (as apparently 'shapewear' can be) or makes it difficult to move around easily (some heels) is oppressive. Thinking that how you look is more important than being able to move etc is wierd, and only when you have been brought up to put a high value on your appearance would you do it. Men aren't brought up to do this (shapewear for men regardless, I bet this is a tiny market compared to the female one).

The big pants I have aren't uncomfortable and I don't wear uncomfy heels either - but on the basis of the latter part of your argument (extrapolated) any fashion/makeup is oppressive.

im nto extrapolating

But only on a Friday Night

I don't think 'fashion' or make up is necessarily oppressive, you have to wear something and you might as well like it, but when you feel you can't go out without make up, then I think you have a problem.

Then I have a problem