Expensive moisturisers or, a little bit of Botox?

[kittya]

I need a new moisturiser and the Chanel one I use is fab but £45 a pop. Im thinking would a little jab of botox be more permanent and money saving in the long run? My frown lines are practically permanent these days!!

You do realise Botox is not a one-time thing?

I've not ever had it, but would veer away from injecting poisons voluntarily!

Botox definitely.

I know it lasts afew months. I have a friend who tells me Im wasting money on moisturisers and I might as well just get botox as it really makes a difference. I just wouldnt know where to go.

The thing with expensive moisturisers is the feel good factor, with texture being ranked high on the list. Also, a moisturiser may soften the appearance of lines, but won't do anything about them. They are all pretty similar from £6 Oil of Ulay to the one you mention.

If you have vertical frown lines, you may benefit from a filler rather than botox, but seek professional advice and see what they can do for you.

(ensure you have a broad spectrum UV coverage in your moisturiser)

I have been thinking about this also. Have horrid lines between my eyebrows so interesting thread.

moisturisers - I use revive which is v expensive and for my ancient age have v few wrinkles. This may be luck and genetic too, who knows. Botox makes you look weird - perhaps not initially but in the end no one escapes the frozen face look.

Depends how much botox you have, where you have it and how skilled the practitioner is.

That was I was thinking Tracy, I only want a few little jabs for now.

Does anyone know anywhere in London I could go? The hairdressers all advertise it but Im abit reluctant to go to a hairdressers.

Moisturisers will not work.
I saw a great cosmetic dr last week for a consultation and am booked in for a tiny bit of cheek filling soon.
Dr Tracey Mountford.
google her or PM me if you want.

www.cosmeticskinclinic.com/ linky for you.

definitely recommend botox - and I'm glad to see yours seems to have gone well Traceybath - I was wondering if you'd liked it!

you need to find someone who has lots of experience and a light touch - and that doesn't always mean the most expensive. Frozen face only happens if you do too much. Can't recommend anyone in london, but I hope you find someone

Can anyone recommend somewhere in the North West of England for Botox and filers?

I know someone great in Edinburgh if that's any good?

You know, one day you will be 90. And really really wrinkly with boobs down to your knees. So you might as well start getting used to the idea now.

Botox is dumb. And vain.

You should only ever use a mid-priced moisturiser from a large company.

Expensive department store brands have such a small volume that they never sell enough to pay for any research.

Cheapo brands don't make enough profit to pay for research.

Big, mid-priced brands have both volume and profit so can fund research, and deliver superior products.

Stay away from Botox.

No Moisturisers work, Botox and Fillers are the only thing to give a more youthful appearance. I don't agree it's dumb or vain, everyone is different and what is for some isn't for others.

Vacuous, vain, and utterly pointless. Like Canute trying to keep back the North Sea. Surely people have better things to do with their time and spend their money on than getting their forehead injected with poison so they can't smile properly anymore?

But beanlet this is the vacuous, vain and utterly pointless section

Seriously if you want a little botox then just find a good practitioner and as with most things this is best done by recommendation.

Worth doing a search through the archives as sure Noddy posted some good people before christmas.

I've had a little botox in my frown lines and am very pleased with the results - cost £200 and should last for several months. It doesn't hurt and took about 20 mins for the whole consultation.

I can still smile and don't look at all frozen as the practitioner I used has a light touch.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

beanlet- you could use your argument against having your teeth whitened, hair coloured, keeping fit- all the things that deter the process and appearance of ageing.

There is nothing wrong with trying to hold back the tide for a while.

One man's vanity is another's pride in their appearance.

"You should only ever use a mid-priced moisturiser from a large company.

Expensive department store brands have such a small volume that they never sell enough to pay for any research."

amerryscot - expensive department store brands are usually part of a large cosmetics group. While research is shared across brands in large cosmetics groups, the more expensive brands (a) get to use the latest research first (b) use higher quality, more expensive ingredients.

FWIW, a lot of smaller brands do excellent clinical research and make amazing cosmetics products.

My DP runs a chain of cosmetics shops, by the way, and knows all the brands, what sells and what works!

Exfoliate, exfoliate, exfoliate - and then use whichever moisturiser takes your fancy

Bonsoir - what does work then?!

I think that there is nothing wrong with botox or fillers and that it does make people feel better. In the short term. BUT it never works in the long term and as far as I can tell it is addictive, and leads to more cosmetic surgery. Another point that I make about botox is that it creates this blandness. So although subtle, and it alters the face in a way that is almost imperceptible (but not quite), it is that very subtle change that is to the detriment of the face. People are beautiful because of the way the face moves and the way they express themselves (things that can't always be described but that can be seen) the gestures and expressions and botox changes that.

Creams alone won't work. It's the whole skincare régime that is going to make a difference - and that includes getting enough sleep and not drinking too much alcohol, or smoking, and making sure you don't get overexposed to the elements (wind and cold are just as damaging as sun).

I am really enamoured of these products

Has anyone tried nichola perricoome diet (or however it's spelt)? the one with lots of salmon and vitamins?